Today's postings

  1. [Baren 38990] Re: Funds (Barbara Mason)
  2. [Baren 38991] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4830 (May 22, 2009) (Marilynn Smith)
  3. [Baren 38992] RABBIT/ TIGER ("bobcatpath #")
  4. [Baren 38993] Re: Funds & request for financial report (Julio.Rodriguez #
  5. [Baren 38994] Exchanges by Committee? ("Maria Arango Diener")
  6. [Baren 38995] Welcome to the Baren Ads & Ops Newsletter (Mary Kuster)
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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:31:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38990] Re: Funds
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This would be a big project, to do it right. I suggest all of us video our work as we do it and then look at the video.
I think we will see that it is not so easy to do but think we don't have enough money to do it professionally.
I think we would need a printmaker to edit it. In working with my brother, who knows me well, I had problems just because he did not understand all the processes.
Lots to consider
My best
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Message 2
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:24:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38991] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4830 (May 22, 2009)
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I like the idea of hiring someone to redo and maintain our website.
Perhaps the funds are not predictable enough to do more than redo the
site, but that is a huge job and our volunteers are obviously very
busy with many tasks. Further I think we need to have a set number of
council members. Their job title and job description should be on our
website. If it is possible for a volunteer with a huge job to have
helpers, that seems like a great idea. Bringing in more of our
members to help seems reasonable, we have grown in numbers. How to do
that is the huge question. As Maria stated they need warm bodies.
But like me many of us have limited skills when it comes to web
building, no knowledge of HTML. And like me have limited programs for
image manipulation. So how do we help??? I like the idea of council
members having helpers, they would not be on the council they would be
ones who lend a hand. As I said before in my observation of leaders,
the good ones know how to delegate.

Volunteers are special people and I agree they should be recognized.
With that thought I also agree with the idea of giving our special
volunteers some sort of gift of recognition.
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Message 3
From: "bobcatpath #"
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:40:15 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38992] RABBIT/ TIGER
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oh! Georga-- you are right

it is RABBIT and TIGER that are left

i have to keep going around the circle
a little further, cuz i jumped ,on at HORSE
i have a SNOWSHOE HARE living in "the dip" on my gravel road
by a very small stream
so it will be fun to another rabbit print

which can hop into my series of WILD ANIMAL woodcuts
see some at:

my cottontail linocut is at lower left
but i also have a 12 x 22" woodcut on plywood of a SNOWSHOE HARE
it is not on the website

they interest me because they change color through- out the year
varying from snowwhite- to mottled brown- to mostly brown
great material for light/dark woodcuts

and it is even greater fun to
get to see and observe them at each stage
my most favorite time is when the rabbit is still white
but the snow has melted-early spring

see how a simple thing
like having a loose exchange(CHINESE NEW YEAR)
can (for me), stimulate a whole years works on a subject / series that has already involved me

being a catalyst
a motivator

being a barener who lives out in the boonies
i would like to thank the council members for being a woodcut life line

never too early to begin thinking about the next new year animal ;-)

gillyin gatto in down east maine

where the snowshoe hare
now only has white
on his feet and his face
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Message 4
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:19:14 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38993] Re: Funds & request for financial report
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Rachel writes:
" I'd be curious to see a Baren budget. What proportion of the available
funds should be tapped for projects? Certainly there should be a buffer
of operating capital, based on the expenses that the group has. "

I think this is a good idea. Before we can decide how to 'use' the money
we need to understand what we have and what portion of it can be used for
projects, scholarships, videos, etc.....and what needs to be kept for
paying the bills.

Barbara, can you post something for the general list to look over so we
know what we are working with.......nothing fancy but more like a quick
summary of funds, money owed, etc. I know we probably have some mall paper
in stock and maybe exchange cases, etc......but I think the group is more
interested in the big picture.

How money comes in. Barbara can elaborate more but for the most part the
way funds come to Baren is from the small percent profit we make on
BarenMall orders. Payments for BarenMall orders (from all over the world)
go to our Baren account once order and payment is approved by the mall
managers. Our vendors in Japan receive the orders and send out the
merchandise right away. Every other month or so Barbara gets a bill from
the vendors in Japan and she pays off what we owe. We make a small profit
with every order. All merchandise goes out directly from Japan except for
some hosho paper (we buy up-front in large quantities and keep in Oregon)
and I think the exchange cases. One issue that Dave and Barbara have to
deal with is how to navigate the fluctuations between the dollar and the
Japanese yen since there can be major changes from the time and order is
placed (and paid for) and the time that our vendors send us an invoice &
receive payment. This requires occasional updates to the mall prices to
keep things under control.

How money is spent. We pay the bills for hosting the website and the forum
list. We purchase a small inventory of exchange cases to keep on hand. We
have awarded some small scholarships in the past to printmaking students
(2002 & 2003 Georgia University, 2004 Harper College). See the links
below. We have also subsidized a few Baren projects to help the project
coordinators break even and there may have been some Baren paid expenses
related to Summit's in KC 2003 and Vancouver 2006.

We also have these pages but are not currently linked from the main page:

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Message 5
From: "Maria Arango Diener"
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:19:54 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38994] Exchanges by Committee?
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I agree a good leader needs to delegate from time to time, however a good
leader knows the tasks and what it takes to do them as well so that the
delegation process doesn't create more work for either the leader or someone
else behind the curtains. What has happened in Baren is that, because of
distance and other issues, it is almost always easier to sit down at the
computer for an hour or so and DO things than it is to spend a few hours
with emails back and forth hand-holding someone else to DO a task (generally

As for hiring a webmaster, the principal reason we have not done this is
because most of us in the Council have the skills and web people, in my
opinion, grossly over-charge for what is a perfectly "learnable" skill. Most
of my husband's web people at the university work on the side for about
$100-250 per hour or per webpage; revisions are extra; graphics are extra.
At that rate, Baren owes David Bull several million dollars.

I'm afraid ALL of Baren's profits would be sucked up by a hired webmaster.

The type of people that are needed as things are run now (not to say things
couldn't be changed by a new fresh leadership) are people that require
little oversight and limited "training". Example: when I took over as
Exchange Manager, I had coordinated several exchanges so I knew what
coordinating was all about. I also pretty much knew what Mike was doing and
how to do it. Mike was absolutely wonderful in transitioning and it only
took a few emails from him to let me know where everything was and how to do
a few things.

Aside from that, I stepped in, took a gander at the website and all the
pages involved and took over. I don't really think I'm all that special or
that skillful, I just had the desire and the time and now I have run out of

There have been some coordinators that have all the skills, so I know that
the "bodies" are out there.

As far as tasks in Baren, almost ALL require some HTML knowledge or
computing skills and ALL of them require someone who is diligent in checking
the list and their email on a daily basis and that knows what is going on in
Baren and can communicate. We are, after all, an online based group so being
online is an essential requirement.

As for divvying up the workload, that is a great idea; the task of Exchange
Manager could be easily divided into three positions plus the Manager:

-The Exchange Manager can remain as such, coordinating everyone involved,
recruiting coordinators and keeping the calendar updated as well as
communicating to the list the monthly Exchange Updates. This position would
require organizational, communication and management skills. At present all
the information is kept on Microsoft Excel spreadsheets.

-Exchange Webmaster could take care of the web page upkeep, upload the
galleries, upkeep of web pages, sign up forms, email forwards, etc. This is
the most time consuming position and the one that requires most attention to
detail. I suppose this could also be split among two people but they would
have to be in very close communication between themselves and with the
manager to avoid duplicating work or really messing up the website.

-Exchange Graphic Artist could take over the image scanning manipulation
when coordinators are unable to do this task and forward the scans and
formatted images to the web master.

-Exchange Archive Liaison could take care of receiving the archive set,
ordering a case, printing label and packaging the and mailing to our

Again, and I don't mean to be pushy or negative in any way: more ideas are
great, warm bodies are still needed.

Words are just words-ACTION is what makes the world go around.

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Message 6
From: Mary Kuster
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:17:06 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38995] Welcome to the Baren Ads & Ops Newsletter
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