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Message 1
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:56:14 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42037] Re: How ink is made... + winter exchange
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I agree with Sharen and Bette. It excludes people to tie up a seasonal
print with one technique. Perhaps moku hanga could rotate thru the seasons.
If we did moku hanga every 5th season, that would do the trick.

Ellen


> Hi Sharen--
>
> I think you make a good point. I'm open to the idea of having "open-
> technique exchanges". Especially because I personally have decided to
> only focus on working in one technique due to lack of time and interest.
> But if the group does vote for a specific technique, then I don't think
> it should "always" be dedicated to the same season each year.
>
> Bette.
>
>

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Message 2
From: Kate
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:07:08 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42038] Barbara Patera's address Re: Baren Digest (old) V52 #5374
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Thank you every one who has contacted either myself or my mother - Barbara Patera - to let her know they are thinking of her. It means a lot to her as well as to me. If any one wants to drop her a note or card in the mail I know she appreciates that. Her address is:

Barb Patera
25529 S.E. 159th St.
Issaquah WA 98027

warm regards,
Kate

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Message 3
From: aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:07:17 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42039] Re: printing on fabric
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for those of you printing on fabric ....do you wash the fabric first? can you use regular printing ink?
thanks
georga

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Message 4
From: Carol Myers
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:12:51 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42040] Re: printing on fabric
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Hi Georgia,
I print on fabric all of the time. Sometimes I wash, usually not. I
usually dampen it and I use regular printmaking ink of all sorts. I
treat it like rag paper. Now if I was going to want it 'washable' I
might prewash to get the sizing out so that the ink would be in more
direct contact with the fibers. But as I am using it for wall art, I
don't prewash as a rule.
HTH,
Carol

Carol L. Myers
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"To pay attention, this is our endless and proper work." Mary Oliver

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Message 5
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:14:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42041] Re: printing on fabric
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Georgia,
Interesting to get this just as I undertake a ton of trial and errors doing just
this process.
I agreed to teach the west side quilters how to print on fabric, I have done a
little of it on silk.
With the silk I did not wash it and printed with oil based inks on Damp silk,
Intaglio, and it worked just like paper, a perfect print on the fabric that took
about a week to dry to the point where I think you could launder it.
Now I am working on cotton with fabric inks, all waterbased and with no press. I
will let you know what happens as I go forth and try to do this...nothing like
volunteering to teach what you really don't know. I got several books and did a
lot of research...so in the end I washed the fabric to remove all the commercial
sizing from it. I will do some experiments on unwashed cotton as well, but later
in my tests.
My best
Barbara

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Message 6
From: "Bea Gold"
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:40:15 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42042] Re: Barbara Patera's address Re: Baren Digest (old) V52 #5374
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Kate, I had a lovely note from your mother when I sent you some prints you
wanted. I hope you are still enjoying them. Your mom sent me a couple of
prints of hers that I treasure. I know it is a very hard time for you and I
wish you and your mom peace and love. I will write to her. Bea Gold

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From: "Kate"
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:06 PM
> Thank you every one who has contacted either myself or my mother - Barbara
> Patera to let her know they are thinking of her. It means a lot to her as
> well as to me. If any one wants to drop her a note or card in the mail I
> know she appreciates that. Her address is:
>
> Barb Patera
> 25529 S.E. 159th St.
> Issaquah WA 98027
>
> warm regards,
> Kate
>
>

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Message 7
From: aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:15:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42043] Re: printing on fabric
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carol and barbara
thank you both for responding so quickly. im going to joannes to by some linen and maybe some silk. i really want to try this too. i will let you know the results
georga

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Message 8
From: Margot Rocklen
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:18:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42044] Exchange #47
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In reference to Exchange #47, what about a multi-media print that includes moku
hanga?

Margot Rocklen

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Message 9
From: Carole Baker
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:40:28 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42045] Re: Exchange 47
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EXCHANGE 47

I probably won't be able to participate in Exchange 47, but would
like to see a multi block Moku-hanga exchange every year. I think
there is only one person that signs up for almost all, if not all, of
the exchanges and that person does Moku-hanga. Varying the time of
year would give those that don't want to do hanga better options.

Aaron brought up a good point:

I wonder how strictly a print will be judged against the
Moku Hanga
standard. If one were to use Akua Kolor inks, is it
Moku Hanga? If one
prints on non-Japanese paper? What if the paper is
dry? What if one
prints with a press instead of a baren? Etc.

The last moku hanga exchange specified Japanese paper which I don't
usually use. And I don't use traditional image transfer technique,
though otherwise, my technique is pretty much Moku-hanga.

The last hanga and at least one other hanga exchange was the O-
Tanzaku size which is challenge enough. Seems like the next one
should be a different size, but not large (Oban) for hanga... and I
like not having a theme.

Hope its OK to have a opinion when I don't plan to sign up. Thanks.


Carole Baker
Gustavus, Alaska

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Message 10
From: "Terry Peart"
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 03:08:41 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42046] Re: printing on fabric
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Barbara Mason - I'm curious which books you are using as a resource if you wouldn't mind sharing.
I've done a little printing on fabric. Very successfully on pre-gessoed canvas, (although you are limited in the detail because of the thread count), with regular printing inks, relief through a press. I don't plan on washing it either though.
I've also got a much finer print of the same plate on a finer medium weight cotton. I didn't pre-wash any of it, and I ran it thru the press dry.
I'd love to hear about everyone's attempts.

Thanks,
Terry
West Seattle
-----
>Georgia,
>I got several books and did a lot of research...Barbara
-----
>for those of you printing on fabric ....do you wash the fabric first? can you use regular printing ink?
>thanks
>georga

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Message 11
From: Aine Scannell
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:09:32 GMT
Subject: [Baren 42047] Re: printing on fabric ( intaglio on cotton ??)
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I know this is O.T. BUT when you printed intaglio, onto cotton Did you
just spray dampen the cloth before placing on the plate to go thruogh the
etching press?

Please could you let me know I have often though of doing this.

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Subject: MAKING INK WITH STYLE
Posted by: Dean Clark

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Subject: Prototype Display Panel
Posted by: Ellen Shipley

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