Today's postings
- [Baren 41244] RE: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO (jennifer kelly)
- [Baren 41245] Re: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 41246] Develop new ideas or...? (ArtfulCarol # aol.com)
- [Baren 41247] RE: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO (Rahman Mohamed)
- [Baren 41248] Answer for Andrew (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 41249] Re: Andrew's Dilemma (thadeenz97 # verizon.net)
- [Baren 41250] Re: new wood ("DePry Clan")
Message 1
From: jennifer kelly
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:11:04 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41244] RE: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO
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Have you thought about sealing the wood before you start to scratch into the surface?
Shellac or polyurathane? If the wood is grainy, I would imagine you could still get
the grain showing through, or a very fine grained timber to a smoother finish. Also
experiment with using easy wipe. I am only guessing, but maybe I'll experiment.
An interesting problem.
Jenny
>Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO
I would like to make a print using wood though not using the relief method...
>What I was wondering was after you scribe the lines, to make the grooves for the ink to collect in - once you "ink up" the plate
>How do you wipe it sufficiently to leave only a small amount of "plate tone"?
>The test one I did came out more or less the same weight of colour of the incised
>lines and therefore not satisfactory in terms of differentiation, as in delineated
figurative forms on a background (showing a light suggestion of wood grain).
>Is there something that you add to the ink to make the ink easier to wipe most of it away?
>I would really appreciate peoples thoughts/experience on this.
>Thank you
>Aine Scannell
>http://printmakingart.blogspot.com
Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:01:23 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41245] Re: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO
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Aine,
I think wood is hard to wipe because it is more porous than metal or plastic. If you want to wipe it in the intaglio method, you need to seal it with something like shellac or varnish before you carve it.
The ink should then stick in the lines and the surface will be easier to wipe...try using easy wipe in etching ink and use a light had with the wiping of tarlatan.
This should work for you, be sure your lines are very fine, if they are too wide you will wipe the ink out no matter how careful you are....use paper to wipe as soon as you can, phone book pages are ideal. Use the flat of your hand. Wearing a rubber glove allows you to grab the paper sooner than if you just use your hand and the sooner you can go to paper the less chance you have of wiping ink out of the lines.
My best
Barbara
I think wood is hard to wipe because it is more porous than metal or plastic. If you want to wipe it in the intaglio method, you need to seal it with something like shellac or varnish before you carve it.
The ink should then stick in the lines and the surface will be easier to wipe...try using easy wipe in etching ink and use a light had with the wiping of tarlatan.
This should work for you, be sure your lines are very fine, if they are too wide you will wipe the ink out no matter how careful you are....use paper to wipe as soon as you can, phone book pages are ideal. Use the flat of your hand. Wearing a rubber glove allows you to grab the paper sooner than if you just use your hand and the sooner you can go to paper the less chance you have of wiping ink out of the lines.
My best
Barbara
Message 3
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:23:46 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41246] Develop new ideas or...?
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Andy, I face the same decisions . My experience:
Good ideas can never be fully exhausted. They can go on forever and take
on a strong life of their own. Which is fine, but each of us limited time.
(There is the artist who kept on making flags!)
The choice I make is to make a body of work. Then go on to the next idea
on the growing to do list.
You can always go back to keep on developing the first idea.
As new ideas keep coming in, I still work on the first idea of more than
10 years ago and enjoy changing it in ways that I didn't have the
experience to realize then.
Your clever take on images are so amusing!!! --Scooter Kiss and more like
them
Carol Lyons
Message 4
From: Rahman Mohamed
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:33:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41247] RE: Question Please re WOOD INTAGLIO
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You could try sand smooth the wood before you sealed it with lacquer/shellac or alike. May be its better to seal the whole board after you carve the lines/ images, as it will make it easier for the paper to pick the ink from the intaglio line/image.
Rahman
Message 5
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:44:41 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41248] Answer for Andrew
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Andrew, I would move forward on new projects. When ones time is
limited one can still just keep plodding forward, it will take more
time and you may have new ideas in the mean time. However, your work
will remain fresh and new, growth is important, I think. Also get a
journal and write down those ideas that you don't at this time have
time for. If you are in the arts long enough you may find there is a
dry spell and that journal will become very important. It is good to
finish up old projects, but fresh ones give us incentive to keep
working and keep our minds going.
Marilynn
limited one can still just keep plodding forward, it will take more
time and you may have new ideas in the mean time. However, your work
will remain fresh and new, growth is important, I think. Also get a
journal and write down those ideas that you don't at this time have
time for. If you are in the arts long enough you may find there is a
dry spell and that journal will become very important. It is good to
finish up old projects, but fresh ones give us incentive to keep
working and keep our minds going.
Marilynn
Message 6
From: thadeenz97 # verizon.net
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:34:11 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41249] Re: Andrew's Dilemma
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Absolutely write down those ideas! I have notebooks and papers lying everywhere (to my wife's chagrin). They aren't anything detailed, usually just some doodles I'll make while watching TV.
As for finishing one job before starting another, I can do it no other way. I have, in the midst of a print, just stopped liking it, and then I've had to force myself to quit. Otherwise, I just press on (ha ha) until it's done; however, all of the ideas that come in are in my notebooks....somewhere.
The hardest part of being an artist (including writers and musicians) is that practicing one's craft opens floodgates of creativity, and one has to be self-disciplined enough to put things on the back burner. The grass is not always greener! Okay, that's my cliche quota for the day.
Jeff Dean
Napping Cat Press
As for finishing one job before starting another, I can do it no other way. I have, in the midst of a print, just stopped liking it, and then I've had to force myself to quit. Otherwise, I just press on (ha ha) until it's done; however, all of the ideas that come in are in my notebooks....somewhere.
The hardest part of being an artist (including writers and musicians) is that practicing one's craft opens floodgates of creativity, and one has to be self-disciplined enough to put things on the back burner. The grass is not always greener! Okay, that's my cliche quota for the day.
Jeff Dean
Napping Cat Press
Message 7
From: "DePry Clan"
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:08:40 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41250] Re: new wood
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Andrew,
I have similar problems to having many new ideas and most never coming to
fruition and then the lack of time to bring them to life. What I do now is
have atleast 3 different blocks going to help keep myself busy and when I
tire of one I move to next one. If its a block that keeps being a pest, I
usually hide it or turn it around and when I come to it a few weeks later I
have a fresh outlook on the block or I keep it turned around.
Sketch books are another place I put my ideas so that I can remember them
later when I am at the point of staring at a blank block. The sketchbook is
my morgue of ideas that are even combined together to develop different
compositions than ones intended earlier.
Anyways, Keep working is the point and try having multiple projects going to
prevent fallout/losing your moment of zen. Nothing 'sworse than self
loathing when you have ideas and you can't get them on a block. Just do it,
make mistakes and enjoy it! Who cares how long they take.
Double D
I have similar problems to having many new ideas and most never coming to
fruition and then the lack of time to bring them to life. What I do now is
have atleast 3 different blocks going to help keep myself busy and when I
tire of one I move to next one. If its a block that keeps being a pest, I
usually hide it or turn it around and when I come to it a few weeks later I
have a fresh outlook on the block or I keep it turned around.
Sketch books are another place I put my ideas so that I can remember them
later when I am at the point of staring at a blank block. The sketchbook is
my morgue of ideas that are even combined together to develop different
compositions than ones intended earlier.
Anyways, Keep working is the point and try having multiple projects going to
prevent fallout/losing your moment of zen. Nothing 'sworse than self
loathing when you have ideas and you can't get them on a block. Just do it,
make mistakes and enjoy it! Who cares how long they take.
Double D