Today's postings
- [Baren 39566] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V48 #4931 (Aug 16, 2009) (David Harrison)
- [Baren 39567] if a tree falls in the woods....... (Linda Beeman)
- [Baren 39568] Re: if a tree falls in the woods....... (Darrell Madis)
- [Baren 39569] Re: if a tree falls in the woods....... (eli griggs)
- [Baren 39570] Re: if a tree falls in the woods....... (David Bull)
- [Baren 39571] Re: RAKESH BANI has commercial message (Sharri LaPierre)
Message 1
From: David Harrison
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:36:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39566] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V48 #4931 (Aug 16, 2009)
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Rakesh's gmail invite wasn't commercial -- it's the usual error of inviting
one's whole address book to join an online service (gmail, facebook, myspace,
etc), without checking who ought and who oughtn'ta be asked. The message duly
goes out to all the contacts, including mailings lists. Baren, Yahoo Groups
etc will then gleefully redistribute that message to every member -- which is
what they're designed to do.
And the moral of this story is: everyone please double-check before inviting
people en masse to your favourite site. Un-tick Baren please!
Grrr.
David H
ps. Rakesh, that's an interesting exhibition -- if I'm in Hants this autumn,
I'll try and stop by.
one's whole address book to join an online service (gmail, facebook, myspace,
etc), without checking who ought and who oughtn'ta be asked. The message duly
goes out to all the contacts, including mailings lists. Baren, Yahoo Groups
etc will then gleefully redistribute that message to every member -- which is
what they're designed to do.
And the moral of this story is: everyone please double-check before inviting
people en masse to your favourite site. Un-tick Baren please!
Grrr.
David H
ps. Rakesh, that's an interesting exhibition -- if I'm in Hants this autumn,
I'll try and stop by.
Message 2
From: Linda Beeman
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:03:53 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39567] if a tree falls in the woods.......
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If a tree falls in the woods........well a friend of mine did hear the noise and investigated. What he found was an old cherry tree that had fallen over! It was all going for firewood until I heard about it and begged for some of it! So now I have two big chunks of the trunk coming next week and I don't know what to do from there.
Do I let it cure as is for a year of more or do I cut it into blocks and then let it cure?
Our local high school has a fantastic woodshop and sawmill so I thought I have them cut it for me.
Can anyone help me so I do this right?!
Linda Beeman
Message 3
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:26:01 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39568] Re: if a tree falls in the woods.......
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Probably best to have it cut into planks, seal the ends with was or paint and let dry for about a year someplace that doesn't have extremes of temperature. But it will warp so you will have to have planks thicker than you need so they can be planed to the proper thickness. You might try to contact a local woodturner and trade for some ready-cut planks you can use. I'm no expert but I know preparing wood from trees is not easy and a lot can go wrong.
Madis Arts
Madis Arts
Message 4
From: eli griggs
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:49:10 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39569] Re: if a tree falls in the woods.......
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Seal the ends of any pieces you may have right away, this is very important, as the moisture will more rapidly exit the wood on the ends than the sides of the wood. Use a heavy paint, birch or pine tar, or several coats or paraffin wax. Birch bark tar is my preference and if you have birch trees, even dead ones, nearby that you can take bark from, it is a simple product to make and there's lots of info on the web on preparing it.
Have someone with a large re-saw bandsaw, saw this into planks, if the pieces can be handled by a single person, otherwise a simple chain-saw mill can be used to cut it into rough planks. A band saw will waste far less wood than a chain.
You will want plain plank cuts, not quarter-sawn so tell whomever is doing this for you that. If you discover the wood has a lot of fancy curl, or birds-eye, you should be able to sell or trade it to a woodworker for straight grained lumber already prepared.
Take the cut wood and store it inside your studio if you can, with one inch 'stickers', wood spacers, between the planks, about every eighteen inches of length so air can circulate between the boards. Stack it starting about 18 inches above the floor, level and don't set anything heavy on it. A general rule of thumb is one year per inch for air dried woods and longer is always better. I think David Bull has his wood finish cut to two inches but I may be mistaken and I'm not sure if his wood is kiln or air dried.
If you cut the wood too thickly initially and plan to cut it into two or more thinner planks, you may have a problem with stresses that are newly released, causing twisting of your boards, as well as the excessive drying times, so cut to pre-cured thickness, leaving enough for surface dressing when dry. Cut wood should be treated as a living thing and carefully cared for until it is mature enough for use.
Eli
Have someone with a large re-saw bandsaw, saw this into planks, if the pieces can be handled by a single person, otherwise a simple chain-saw mill can be used to cut it into rough planks. A band saw will waste far less wood than a chain.
You will want plain plank cuts, not quarter-sawn so tell whomever is doing this for you that. If you discover the wood has a lot of fancy curl, or birds-eye, you should be able to sell or trade it to a woodworker for straight grained lumber already prepared.
Take the cut wood and store it inside your studio if you can, with one inch 'stickers', wood spacers, between the planks, about every eighteen inches of length so air can circulate between the boards. Stack it starting about 18 inches above the floor, level and don't set anything heavy on it. A general rule of thumb is one year per inch for air dried woods and longer is always better. I think David Bull has his wood finish cut to two inches but I may be mistaken and I'm not sure if his wood is kiln or air dried.
If you cut the wood too thickly initially and plan to cut it into two or more thinner planks, you may have a problem with stresses that are newly released, causing twisting of your boards, as well as the excessive drying times, so cut to pre-cured thickness, leaving enough for surface dressing when dry. Cut wood should be treated as a living thing and carefully cared for until it is mature enough for use.
Eli
Message 5
From: David Bull
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:04:37 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39570] Re: if a tree falls in the woods.......
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Eli wrote:
> I think David
> Bull has his wood finish cut to two inches but I may be mistaken and
> I'm not sure if his wood is kiln or air dried.
At the re-sawing stage they are just about 30mm thick; by the time
they get to my bench, they are 23mm.
Air drying is the usual method here ... There is a small (old) piece
about this on my site here:
http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/topics/toc_tools_and_materials.html
(Look for the item: 'Bringing home some cherry planks' ...
Dave
> I think David
> Bull has his wood finish cut to two inches but I may be mistaken and
> I'm not sure if his wood is kiln or air dried.
At the re-sawing stage they are just about 30mm thick; by the time
they get to my bench, they are 23mm.
Air drying is the usual method here ... There is a small (old) piece
about this on my site here:
http://woodblock.com/encyclopedia/topics/toc_tools_and_materials.html
(Look for the item: 'Bringing home some cherry planks' ...
Dave
Message 6
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:33:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39571] Re: RAKESH BANI has commercial message
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Again, I owe you all an apology -- I did not mean for the Painting
Grace's Room entry in my blog to go to the digest. I thought I had
left all tags off and that would prevent it from going anyplace I
didn't mean for it to go. Woe is me, that didn't happen. Next time I
will pick specific tags that have nothing whatever to do with
printmaking and maybe that will work. Please accept my apology,
again....
Cheers ~
Sharri
Grace's Room entry in my blog to go to the digest. I thought I had
left all tags off and that would prevent it from going anyplace I
didn't mean for it to go. Woe is me, that didn't happen. Next time I
will pick specific tags that have nothing whatever to do with
printmaking and maybe that will work. Please accept my apology,
again....
Cheers ~
Sharri