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Message 1
From: "Oscar Bearinger"
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:41:17 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39181] Re: Fine line lino
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Thanks, Dan. Definitely something to try.

Oscar

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Message 2
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:36:59 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39182] Re: Updates
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On 29-Jun-09, at 1:29 PM, Daniel Dew wrote:

> But I am still using Cherry wood and other woods, basically whatever
> I find that "tickles" me into using it.
> I've even carved a reduction using cedar wood (highly NOT
> recommended).


Ya, Cedar will drive you silly.... Talk about sticky... yuk

Graham

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Message 3
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:46:07 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39183] Re: Fine line lino
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Barbara Mason wrote:

> Dan,
> You are right about the pressure, if the paper is at all embossed
> you are using too much pressure if using a press, if printing by
> hand on thin paper it is hard not to emboss the paper as you have to
> get enough pressure to print well.
> A/P is not what you mean, you mean T/P which stands for trial proof.
> A/P is exactly like the edition and is theoretically 5% of the
> amount printed and kept by the artist for personal sales.
> My best
> Barbara

Did you mean.... T/P 5% AND A/P 10%

Graham

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Message 4
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:58:47 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39184] Re: Just a Thought
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Dan Dew wrote:
> Then I had to chuckle.
> We are analog.
> We carve wood and make prints from them.
> How 1st century of us!

For usin’s that hate “do and undo“ ...... this is sweet.

Running and hiding.....
Graham

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Message 5
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:00:50 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39185] Re: Fine line lino
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Daniel Dew wrote:
> Maybe someday I'll write up something using pictures and put it up
> on a "donated" website.
>
Mine is available... do you do html .... or use a web application ?

Graham

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Message 6
From: "Terry Peart"
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:01:42 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39186] Re: Just a Thought
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A very interesting thought....Baren on Facebook....hmmmm.
It might be great fun. I like it.
Terry
West Seattle

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Message 7
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:15:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39187] Re: Fine line lino
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T/P can be as many as you need to work out your edition....I guess A/P is maxed at 10% but I think the rule of thumb is 5 or so.
although I know artists who make all their work A/P's and print till the plates just fall apart. Not recommended, of course.
Barbara

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Message 8
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:36:21 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39188] Re: Just a Thought
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If you're not a good little person you get bumped from the Baren...

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Message 9
From: Marissa Swinghammer
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:59:46 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39189] Re: Just a Thought
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I use FB a lot on my phone and would love this. I'm pretty terrible at
keeping up with mailing lists but not FB or Twitter. Don't recommend
Twitter for The Baren though!

Sent from my iPhone

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Message 10
From: Georgina Leahy
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:37:17 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39190] Re: Fine line lino
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I am interested in this posting about printing lino.  I have no trouble printing small lino on an etching press but when I print larger like 50 x 70cm I find setting the pressure difficult.  Like the other day I got a 50 by 70 block and rolled it through a large etching press.  The top half was perfect and then it went to salty blacks in the bottom half.  Can anyone tell me how that can happen.  I repeated the print and the same thing happened.   I was so dumbfounded I packed up and went home rather than wasting paper at $5.00 a sheet!  Another day I went and used a press in anothe rtudio and the artists who own it set the pressure and the lino printed like a dream.  I find the tinkering with the pressure too hard.  I am a bit dysexic, so when I look at the print and think, the pressure should be increased on this side I easily get confused because it is back to front.  It took me about 8 prints to get one right the other day.  This is what
drives me mad about printing!  Not the cutting but the actual application of ink to paper. 

I used to use a hydraulic press and I found that needed more ink than the etching press.  Why do you say if there is embossing there is too much pressure.  Someone once showed me how to check the pressure and it involved sending through some cheap paper and looking at the embossing for even pressure.  Would you then say this is to much pressure?

I also use Zerkall, as I can handprint with a baren or a spoon although the surface is a little repelling of the ink so i damp it with a spray overnight.  I find that I then get little buckles in the paper which I daresay i would not get if I squashed the finished print under some boards for a day.   I am going to try rewetting the paper and flattening to get these buckles out.  Will this work?

I am so pleased to discuss lino!  I found cutting wood hurts my wrists and eventually my whole body after a while.  I don't cut sensibly a bit everyday, if I get an idea I cut madly until it is done, so this can mean   days of cutting.  Perhaps it is how I use my tools but the lino is defniatly more ergonomic for me.

Georgina

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Message 11
From: jennifer kelly
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:01:19 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39191] Re: Fine line lino
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Hi from Australia. I have the same type of problem in my wrist. If left untreated it it goes all the way up to my elbow. After giving up printmaking for 5 or 6 years I found a way around this problem. Regular light weight training works a treat in prevention. With regard to using lino, it is easier to carve than wood. I use specifically "silk cut" brand, it stays soft, unlike flooring lino. I prefer to use vinyl plates. They are quite a deal softer to use than even silk cut, but you must be controlled, so the tools do not skid across the plate. It also carves slightly more easily in one direction.
I checked the McClains site, they do not sell it. I buy mine from Melbourne Etching Supplies, they will post anywhere, and they have a sale on at the moment.Jeny

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Message 12
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:18:47 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39192] Re: Fine line lino
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Georgina,
If the pressure is different from one end of the block to another it is probably the press bed and not you.
I cannot help much with the dyslexia, unfortunately, but try printing with matboard over the block instead of a blanket to help with even pressure.
If you see embossing on newsprint it is not too much pressure, but if you see it on your good paper it is too much pressure and can be fixed by inking the block correctly.
Ink from the center out and take at least 10 minutes to ink a big block, 5 for a small one. Lots of layers of very thin ink.
To get your prints to dry flat, put them in blotters for 20 to 30 minutes, then move them to new dry flat blotters. They will be perfect in the morning.
My best to you
Barbara

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