Today's postings
- [Baren 38393] SGC conference, and yes, a lot of artists still draw. (Lester Doré)
- [Baren 38394] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V46 #4743 (Mar 14, 2009) (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 38395] SGC conference- Free day, and transportation information ( slinders # comcast.net)
- [Baren 38396] Re: does anyone draw anymore? (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 38397] Technique vs Technique?? (Eileen Corder)
- [Baren 38398] Enough Said (ArtSpotiB # aol.com)
- [Baren 38399] Passions (Gayle Wohlken)
- [Baren 38400] Re: does anyone draw anymore? (David Harrison)
- [Baren 38401] Re: does anyone draw anymore? ("Mike Lyon")
- [Baren 38402] Working in Silence -- or in the presence of others (Gayle Wohlken)
- [Baren 38403] Re: Working in Silence -- or in the presence of others (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 38404] Re: Working in Silence -- or in the presence of others (aqua4tis # aol.com)
- [Baren 38405] Re: Working in Silence -- or in the presence of others (Charles Morgan)
- [Baren 38406] Working in Silence -- or in the presence of others (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 38407] Re: spinning it......... (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
Hi everyone
I will be in Chicago at the same time as the SGC Conference, but can't
afford to go to the conference proper. I will be attending, however,
at the free "Satisfaction Town" (Friday March 27 at Columbia
College )event coordinated by John Hitchcock, who teaches relief and
screen printing at UW-Madison. Attendees will participate in a
collaborative printmaking process. And the next night, Saturday March
28, I will be at the opening of a group show I helped organize: Art
Surge: Global Instigations, which will be mostly prints--some of them
relief prints. There's more information at
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=3D85545466040&ref=3Dts
"Printmaking with Extreme Technology"
Mike I love this statement. It so describes your work. The one thing
I admire about what you do is that you are more than an artist you are
an inventor as well and you push technology to the extreme to create.
I for one think you are the type of artist who will leave behind new
ways of seeing, new ways of creating that have not been done before.
That puts you in a league with a lot of very famous artists.
Congratulations.
Annie, loved the video on how the cartoonist created the imagery and
the story as well. This is drawing and if this is how you create then
you are drawing, your references may be different from some, but
certainly not all. I think in this situation the artist had a certain
vision in mind and used tools at hand to create the vision. We all
are individual in our ways of getting there.
Sharri, of course you are correct in saying that not all drawing is
art or finished work. But some of it definitely is. I have seen some
very well drawn imagery that I would have to call art. My sketch books
are so varied, often they are merely work books and what is in them is
not art, but ideas or parts of things that I am trying to work out or
work on. Then there is the nicely rendered sketch, that in itself is a
finished piece. I think we are on the same page and I agree with you.
I learned to brush draw in watercolor and I love drawing this way from
an easel. You get your whole body into the act, you move your arms
and not just your hands, it is a fun way to draw. As for copying
masters work, I agree it can be an excellent learning tool and have
done it as well.
As for Photoshop, I am totally out of my element having never used
it. I admire those who have the skill to put all these wonderful new
bits of technology to good and creative use.
The best part of this discussion for me was that I got the drawing bug
and spent yesterday afternoon on my balcony sketching. Thanks for the
incentive guys and what a grand discussion.
Marilynn
The SGC is an expensive conference! And staying in the City
(and parking in the City ) is an additional expense. (Our
parking meters are now $3.50/hour, and it's $26. for 4 hours to
park at the Grant Park garage.)
I understand that SATURDAY's activities at the SGC will be FREE,
and that may help some of you come to see the amazing quantity
and quality of prints displayed, and to visit the many vendors
at the conference!
It also may help some of you to look at the 'Metra' commuter
train all system map, and the bus and El maps:
Coming into the City on weekends you can get a $5.00 unlimited
train pass, and in the City you'll be able to get around by bus.
Many things are withing walking distance.
You may find accomodations less expensive in the suburbs, also.
Contact me off-list if I can be of help with information on
hotels or transportation.
There will be special exhibitions in many of the galleries. I
expecially enjoy Printworks Gallery in the River North district.
There are several galleries, as well as Pearl Artist's
Supplies, and PaperSource in the area.
Dean is planning an open house at Graphic Chemical in Villa Park
Sunday, and may be running a bus. You'll enjoy seeing the
incredible numbers of prints on the walls!
I hope that you'll think about visiting this wonderful conference!
Sharen
I guess the difference here is that you call it arguing and I consider
it discussion
Your posts server nothing on this forum... I will ask you again not
to read my posts.
Graham
As someone not schooled in "art", I have to say that this debate looks a
mite silly. You're arguing about technique: blood and muscle vs blood and
electronic mind, while the real debate to me (ah, the non-professional) is
technique vs message.
In such a "pure" art as printmaking, I find that technique too much
overshadows the intent or message or contents of the piece. I know that
limits increase (rather than diminish) creativity but that doesn't mean that
technique becomes the end point.
Peace,
Eileen
Hello Friends.
Could the pissing contest please stop now? It does neither party any good.
I once had a step mother who thought it fun to insult others, then sit back
and watch the turmoil. She was quite a nasty bit of work. Baiting is a form of
control, a way to get attention. Most actively disliked her. When she at long
last left my father, people asked me why I didn't tell her off. Well, I'd
respond, it wouldn't do any good as she wouldn't change. And she'd enjoy the
drama. I preferred that age old wisdom, shunning.
Even writing this pleasures those types who like to bait. Enough said.
ArtSpot Out
Benny in California
"Now creativity is another matter. I just don't think it can be taught so
much as fostered in young minds." Shelley of The Baren
"A good artist should be able to make exciting work from whatever they have
on hand" Andrew of The Baren
"Here's to encouragement and the courage to just do Art" Benny Alba
Hi everyone. Here's a thought from your moderator. Present passions
in a positive manner without decrying the passions of other members of
the group. How's that for the motto of the day.
~Gayle
Graham Scholes wrote:
> Your posts server nothing on this forum... I will ask you again not to
> read my posts.
Nothing will give me greater pleasure. Good day.
Server? Serve? Sever? Can't make sense of it no matter how I spin it!
"If the phone ain't ringing, baby you'll know it's me!"
I've got a question for everyone. Since we're talking about skills,
does anybody here have a hard time working (especially the thinking
part of working) when others are in the room asking you questions or
commenting on what you're doing before you have the main elements
figured out? I've noticed I get irritable if I'm in the thinking/
planning part of a woodcut I want to do and I'm interrupted. I don't
like this about me, but I can't seem to change it.
Gayle
Gayle,
It is scientifically proven that multitasking is a myth.... your brain can only work on one thing at a time, which is why driving and talking on the cell phone is so dangerous. I have been doing a lot of reading this last year on brains and perception. It just shows that you are really concentrating on your work.
I used to think I could do lots of things at once but now realize that was wrong, and why I got so crazed. I just needed to admit I was not superwoman and slow down. One thing at a time....wether we like it or not.
My best
Barbara
im totally like this gayle.? its hard if im at work and start thinking about something im doing and a student has a question. i work hard to keep the two seperate.
The artistic part of your brain is quite different from the language part of your brain, and the two interfere with each other. That is why it is very hard to talk about your art while you are doing it ... and why it is very hard to do art while you are talking or trying to listen to someone else. This interference causes frustration and frustration leads to aggression. You will not be able to change it ... it is hard wired into your brain.
Cheers ...... Charles
Here is a heads up about being able to get past this stage ....
Practice patting your head and rubbing your tummy at the same time....
Over time the it will help with focusing on two functions what ever
they my be.
Graham
Mike, you are not spinning it quite right...... ;-)
From Webster:
"server" - a computer in a network that is used to provide services (as
access to files or shared peripherals or the routing of e-mail) to other
computers in the network. ( In this context it can be loosely interpreted
that Barenforum.org is a 'server' to the woodblock printmaking community).
"serve" - to provide services that benefit or help
"sever" - transitive verb:to put or keep apart : divide ; especially : to
remove (as a part) by or as if by cutting, intransitive verb: to become
separated
So here is my take:
Baren's goal is to 'serve' the woodblock/relief printmaking community by
promoting positive communication and instruction about our craft. In the
course of events when any member continues to act in a way that is
counter productive to the Baren "server"......then it is in the best
interest of all parties involve to 'sever' the relationship with that
member.
You can 'draw' your own conclusions but that's my spin on it.......
Julio
"Mike Lyon"
