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Message 1
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:10:57 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37650] printing on black paper
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Barbara, I printed silver oil based ink, mixed with some silver mica on
Stonehenge black paper (slightly damp, I think), which worked very well, using it
for a solarplate etching done for the periodic table of elements printmaking
project.

_http://azuregrackle.com/periodictable/table/38.html_
(http://azuregrackle.com/periodictable/table/38.html)

Also, in the past I have used cheapo white waterbased ink (not speedball,
but something comparable, I can't remember the name) on Ingres paper dry
(linoleum block prints) and it worked well.

Sarah

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Message 2
From: PLAWING # smumn.edu
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37651] printing on black
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This link follows Criswells' interesting twist on printing light ink on dark, toned paper. The results of his linoleum reliefs are very intaglio-like,

http://www.warrencriswell.com/linocuts.html

Preston Lawing

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Message 3
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:53:20 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37652] DOWNLOADER VIRUS WARNING RE: printing on black
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DOWNLOADER VIRUS WARNING

CLICKING ON THIS LINK STARTED A DOWNLOADER VIRUS
ATTACK

Eli

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Message 4
From: Linda Beeman
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:59:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37653] Maria Arango and high school prints
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Maria Arango - sorry to ask here...........I lost your address to send the high schools print to you. I emailed you but don't think it went thru. Please email me!

I had the opportunity recently to spend the day at our local high school and give an overview of different kinds of printmaking to each class. With funding so severely cut for art programs this generation doesn't get a lot of info about printmaking.
McClains generously donated some of their grab bag shina blocks and Maria donated the paper. The 12 young people each carved just their eye as a self portrait. I glued the blocks to make a large, long block and yesterday they each printed the whole block for themselves with sumi. I was very impressed with the results of both their printing and their imagery. It was a pretty big block to print and now they realize that it takes a wee bit of muscle strength to do moku hanga prints! This was the advanced class and several of them are going on to Kendall School of Art and Design in Grand Rapids Michigan. I am posting the print to my blog today for your viewing pleasure!

Also, I have my exchange #39 print done but am waiting until after the Christmas mailing season to send it out.

Linda Beeman

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Message 5
From: Dave Bull
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:04:16 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37654] Re: printing on black
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eli wrote:
> DOWNLOADER VIRUS WARNING
> CLICKING ON THIS LINK STARTED A DOWNLOADER VIRUS ATTACK

>> http://www.warrencriswell.com/linocuts.html

Eli,
Don't know what you've seen, but there is nothing harmful on that page
- it's just a bunch of plain-jane HTML code, with some jpeg images of
prints. There is no JavaScript, nor anything else inserted into the
page. My system detected nothing unusual ...

Dave

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Message 6
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:05:42 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37655] Re: DOWNLOADER VIRUS WARNING RE: printing on black
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Nothing happened here....

Mac G5 running Leopard - OS 10.5.5
Must be a Windoz happening.

Graham

PS
You didn’t miss much... Not a very good explanation re instructions.

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Message 7
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:12:38 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37656] Re: printing on black
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I put the page through virus test and Dreamweaver application...

Clean as a Monday wash....

Graham

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Message 8
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:17:04 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37657] Re: printing on black
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Dave, as soon as I clicked on the page, a typical
downloader pop-up came up and asked if I wanted to
download antispyware software. When you hit 'cancel'
it starts downloading to your pc and you have to
shutdown the browser to stop it. Not fun at all and
if I were on other than a Mac, I'd have a bunch of
junk messing with my pc right now.

Eli

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Message 9
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:23:17 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37658] Re: printing on black
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Graham, I'm on a Mac running updated Tiger on an
Macbook and as I just recently wiped my drive and
reloaded Mac OS, as I do periodically, and am running
ClamXav which is up to date, I'm at a loss why you and
Dave aren't seeing the same thing I did. However, I
have seen this same downloader before and recognize it
for what it is, trouble for windows users.

Eli

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Message 10
From: Dave Bull
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:24:08 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37659] Re: printing on black
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> Dave, as soon as I clicked on the page, a typical
> downloader pop-up came up and asked if I wanted to
> download antispyware software.

Eli, those things are frequently triggered by a script on the page that
you are _leaving_ (or a script hidden in an ad on the page). Perhaps
that is what has happened in this case ...

Dave

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Message 11
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:35:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37660] Re: printing on black
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I think I might know what the problem might have been
now. On another forum, hosted by Yuku, members that
were not signed into their Yuku accounts were being
attacked by this same pop-up whenever they clicked on
certain links and threads; those who were signed in
did not see these actions until they logged off.

After posting here, I went to that forum and saw that
I have been logged off, so, if the link is associated
with Yuku, I'd say that was the problem, if no, then I
still have no accounting for what happened.

Eli

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Message 12
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:55:44 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37661] Re: printing on black
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As ClamXav is an antivirlus engine it may just
be doing what you discribed in the e-mail to Dave.

The application is going through a given set of
functions... as programmed by the designer... to
give you the idea that it is a worthwhile addition
to your computer. It has nothing to do with viruses
as related to Macs. I hope you did not pay for it
or send them a donation.... just a ploy to make money.

You may have noticed information on the Apple site
that related to potential viruses. They (Apple) were
promoting an application that would protect Mac users....
This was a scam (in the smallest sense) that was
promoting the sale of an application. A number of
the industry watchdogs got on to them (Apple) regarding
this nonsense and Apple quietly removed the information
from their site a week ago .... Go figure.

My recommendation is to get rid of that ClamXay. It
contributes nothing and does nothing essential.
Mac are not susceptible to Viruses at this time.... tomorrow
well that is another day and there are plenty of jerks
out there trying to figure out how to circumvent the
Apple operating system....

One heads up.... If you have an intell machine you
should have a piece of software that protects the
Windoz side of thing.... NOTE: you have to have the
application for Windoz installed for the antivirus to be
effective which is independent and does not cross over
to the - Apple Operating System (OS 10).

Have you thought of Leopard - OS 10.5.5
Worth consideration now.

NOTE re your last post.... I doubt this has anything to do with it
> if the link is associated with Yuku, I'd say that was the problem

Compliments of the Season

Regards
Graham

PS... One last heads up.... FireFox is not the browser for Mac.
It has NOT been engineered for the Mac operating system.
You can use it when Safari won’t get you onto a secure site...
ie, Banks, some Airlines, and others that escape me just now.

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Message 13
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:26:21 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37662] Re: printing on black
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Graham, ClamXav is very competent and was not the
cause of the pop-up. I've used it for several years
now and recommend it highly to all Intel Mac users.

The downloader pop-up I'm talking about is the same
one that 'detects' a virus or viruses and forces you
to buy the 'cure'.

While I do normally run Windows XP Pro on Parallels,
along with AVG Anti-virus, I have not yet reloaded
Windows so it cannot be an attack on a partition that
is not yet been made.

As to Yuku, the problem on the other forums was as I
described and was confirmed by a number of forum
members that signed in and out to access the
situation; there is no question that it was the
problem, nor that this is the same application at work
here.

Most of us were on several interrelated forums hosted
by Yuku and this downloader pop-up was only
encountered when logged off Yuku.

Whither or no Yuku is involved here is yet to be
determined, however I did sign-in to my Yuku account
after posting here and retried the link in question,
which would not open after several attempts. Other
web pages opened in less than a second on my
high-speed connection, but not this one, it now stalls
and does not open in 30 seconds or less.

You are free of course to draw your own conclusions
but mine is as originally stated; there is a
downloader virus at work in that link.

Eli

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Message 14
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37663] Re: printing on black
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Dave, the page I'm leaving to get there is the Yahoo
mail page that that message is on, so I doubt that is
at work here.

Eli

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Message 15
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:35:24 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37664] virus
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yes, Eli, the same happened to me and I shut down right away even though I have a mac. I hit no and it started to download
My best
Barbara

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Message 16
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:50:37 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37665] Re: printing on black
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IMHO
I submit Warren Criswell's name to be added to the list of contemporary
print National Treasures
_http://www.warrencriswell.com/linocuts.html_
(http://www.warrencriswell.com/linocuts.html)
Carol Lyons

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Message 17
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:39:28 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37666] Re: virus
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I exited the page immediately and, thus far, have no adverse effects. Does anyone have information on what it does if it 'attacks' your pc?


Diane

www.dianecutter.com
www.theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
www.DCutter.etsy.com

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