Today's postings
- [Baren 37516] Fiber Frustration (Lynita Shimizu)
- [Baren 37517] Re: Fiber Frustration (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 37518] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
Message 1
From: Lynita Shimizu
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:51:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37516] Fiber Frustration
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Trouble in paradise! Fibers are lifting off my Yamaguchi Hosho.
This is the first time I've had trouble to this extreme and I'm
thinking the dosa, or sizing, may be the culprit??? As this print is
a big one for me, and I'm already up to 20 impressions, I 'm using a
heavier weight paper than that sold in the baren mall. Usually if I
see the fibers lifting, it's because the block is too dry or the top
layer of the paper is wetter than the inside or some other moisture
problem that is my fault. I adjust accordingly. This time, it seems
no matter what I do, the fibers want to lift on the second layer of
color. Any ideas?
My clue for the sizing being the problem, is that Mr. Yamaguchi gave
me the option of changing the person doing the sizing to his
neighbor. This is the first time I've used the batch of paper sized
by the bargain person. I'm not having any problem with the colors
bleeding, and the paper passes the tongue test, but it seems like it
does have very light sizing.
Could another possibility be a fluke in the way the paper itself was
made? Even the back of the paper just doesn't seem to be holding up
like usual.
I'm losing quite a few prints from the edition and am kind of scared
to keep going, although that's just what I'm going to do. (I think I
can save some of the prints by taking off the loose fibers with
tweezers. Aurgh!)
Thanks for any input!
Best wishes,
Lynita
This is the first time I've had trouble to this extreme and I'm
thinking the dosa, or sizing, may be the culprit??? As this print is
a big one for me, and I'm already up to 20 impressions, I 'm using a
heavier weight paper than that sold in the baren mall. Usually if I
see the fibers lifting, it's because the block is too dry or the top
layer of the paper is wetter than the inside or some other moisture
problem that is my fault. I adjust accordingly. This time, it seems
no matter what I do, the fibers want to lift on the second layer of
color. Any ideas?
My clue for the sizing being the problem, is that Mr. Yamaguchi gave
me the option of changing the person doing the sizing to his
neighbor. This is the first time I've used the batch of paper sized
by the bargain person. I'm not having any problem with the colors
bleeding, and the paper passes the tongue test, but it seems like it
does have very light sizing.
Could another possibility be a fluke in the way the paper itself was
made? Even the back of the paper just doesn't seem to be holding up
like usual.
I'm losing quite a few prints from the edition and am kind of scared
to keep going, although that's just what I'm going to do. (I think I
can save some of the prints by taking off the loose fibers with
tweezers. Aurgh!)
Thanks for any input!
Best wishes,
Lynita
Message 2
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:10:10 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37517] Re: Fiber Frustration
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This is difficult to assess when there I can’t have hands on. The
litmus test would be to experience the problems first hand...
I would suggest that there is a problem with the batch of paper you
have and you should definitely contact Yamaguchi San and explain the
problem... He does not speak English so the challenge will be to find
someone that can negotiate the situation.
Are you sure that the paper you ordered is top quality Hosho. There
are several grades of hosho paper and it is known that Yamaguchi will
add pulp fibre to the sukibune or vat that the Suketa is dipped into
to make a sheet of paper. You have to be very careful to clarify that
you want pure kozo fiber. The last order I got from him was
questionable and I had it tested at the Kochi, Japan - Paper Museum.
I was advised that is was not pure kozo. In the future I make very
sure that my paper is pure.
The situation you explained re the bargain dosa (sizing) seem to be
the problem... It is a matter of “you get what you pay for”, I suppose.
Not much help but a bit of an insight. I have a lead on another paper
maker in the Kochi region which is a recommendation by Noboru Sawai ....
RYOJI TAMURA
Tosa Washi Kougeimura (Village of Tosa Papermaking)
1226 Kashiki, Ino-cho, Agawa-gun, Kochi 781-21, Japan.
home telephone/fax: 011-81-888-93-41121.
Has anybody on this forum any info about him, I have sent two letters
but did not get a response. !!!
Thanks,
Graham
litmus test would be to experience the problems first hand...
I would suggest that there is a problem with the batch of paper you
have and you should definitely contact Yamaguchi San and explain the
problem... He does not speak English so the challenge will be to find
someone that can negotiate the situation.
Are you sure that the paper you ordered is top quality Hosho. There
are several grades of hosho paper and it is known that Yamaguchi will
add pulp fibre to the sukibune or vat that the Suketa is dipped into
to make a sheet of paper. You have to be very careful to clarify that
you want pure kozo fiber. The last order I got from him was
questionable and I had it tested at the Kochi, Japan - Paper Museum.
I was advised that is was not pure kozo. In the future I make very
sure that my paper is pure.
The situation you explained re the bargain dosa (sizing) seem to be
the problem... It is a matter of “you get what you pay for”, I suppose.
Not much help but a bit of an insight. I have a lead on another paper
maker in the Kochi region which is a recommendation by Noboru Sawai ....
RYOJI TAMURA
Tosa Washi Kougeimura (Village of Tosa Papermaking)
1226 Kashiki, Ino-cho, Agawa-gun, Kochi 781-21, Japan.
home telephone/fax: 011-81-888-93-41121.
Has anybody on this forum any info about him, I have sent two letters
but did not get a response. !!!
Thanks,
Graham
Message 3
From: Blog Manager
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:54:44 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37518] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (55 sites checked, five minutes before 9:00 AM Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Pilgrimage
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2008/11/pilgrimage.html
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Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Xmas '09
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2008/11/xmas-09.html
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Site Name: Pistoles Press
Author: Pistoles Press
Item: Farm People in Ink
http://pistolespress.blogspot.com/2008/11/farm-people-in-ink.html
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The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (55 sites checked, five minutes before 9:00 AM Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Pilgrimage
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2008/11/pilgrimage.html
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Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Xmas '09
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2008/11/xmas-09.html
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Site Name: Pistoles Press
Author: Pistoles Press
Item: Farm People in Ink
http://pistolespress.blogspot.com/2008/11/farm-people-in-ink.html
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