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Message 1
From: "Sean Rainaldi"
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:39:14 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37407] Performax vs Sand-Flee; end grain re surfacing
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I'm in the market for some new shop equipment. Several years ago I read
somewhere, a printmaker was using a Performax drum sander for re surfacing
boxwood with good results (after running through the drum sander to remove
the old work, he hand sanded and then scraped with a razor blade for the
final finish). I was ready to invest in one, but lately I've been hearing
on a woodworking forum about the Sand-Flee, which is similar to drum sanders
- http://www.rjrstudios.com/

They are manual feed.



I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has the Sand-Flee and uses
it for re surfacing end grain woodblocks such as end grain maple, boxwood
lemonwood, etc for printmaking. Is it working OK? Or is a belt driven drum
sander still the best way to go for re surfacing end grain?



Thanks,



Sean R.

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Message 2
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:10:56 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37408] Re: Hue Test
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Gosh golly gee.... I guess my 73 wasn’t so good.... !!!!!
>o Wow, I got four [4], at first I thought it was bad score, then only
> I realise that the lower the score the better.

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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:27:50 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37409] Re: Hue Test
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And I felt bad I got a 20.
It looked perfect to me on my monitor.
I just saw on the NY Times email I get daily that if you go into Starbucks and tell them you voted they will give you a free cup of coffee on Tuesday. I wonder if that works in Canada?
Barbara




>Gosh golly gee.... I guess my 73 wasn't so good.... !!!!! (o

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Message 4
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:52:04 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37410] Re: Performax vs Sand-Flee; end grain re surfacing
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I can relate to this type of sander.... as I have a similar unit.
The one I have I made from parts sold separately...
Pretty simple unit but same basic principle which cost me 150.00 plus
a ½ hp motor I had.
The thing I don’t have and could install is the fence...

I do not recommend them as it is very difficult to get a smooth even
surface. If you stop or hesitate when feeding the stock you will get
a groove or mark on the surface. You have to feed it at a very
consistent speed to get good results. The other factor is the it takes
a long time to remove the surface. You are only sanding a very narrow
area and it takes repeated passes to get down to where you may want.
It has limited use.

For my money (about $200) I would invest in a Random Orbital 8”
Sander Start with 50 grit up to 320 grit sanding discs.
I have used a 5” very successfully and am giving thought to moving up
to the 8” diameter.... but you know whae .... I get perfect results
with the 5” and cannot justify the cost of the bigger unit.
These are very aggressive and do a good job of removing stock....
Make sure you get one that has an vacuum attachment feature.... They
generate a buckets of sawdust in short order.

Are you only working with end grain blocks?
If so then a 5” sander should be fine. If you need to take off the
existing carving then what about a table mount router... You can mill
your wood very nicely with that. The other alternative is to use a
table saw or radial arm saw with dado blade to mill off the surface.

Have fun
Graham

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Message 5
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:55:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37411] Re: Hue Test
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Barbara Mason wrote:
> I just saw on the NY Times email I get daily that if you go into
> Starbucks and tell them you voted they will give you a free cup of
> coffee on Tuesday. I wonder if that works in Canada?
> Barbara

Only if Obama wins....

Graham

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Message 6
From: "Sean Rainaldi"
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:07:25 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37412] Re: Performax vs Sand-Flee; end grain re surfacing
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Thanks Graham,

Yes I'm starting to think that my money would be better spent on other
things. I own a Grizzly 15 inch surface planer, festool router and festool
orbital sander so I guess I'll just use those. I also have a Lie-Nielsen
block plane, maybe I'll try that method as well.

If I could afford it, Jet - Performax has come out with a new 22 inch
oscillating drum sander which they claim provides a perfect surface without
the need for any finish sanding, excellent finish. But at two grand it's a
bit rich for me.

Sean

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Message 7
From: "Sean Rainaldi"
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:51:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37413] Re: Performax vs Sand-Flee; end grain re surfacing
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Incidentally, does anyone recommend a good supplier of boxwood? Japanese
and/or Turkish?

Sean

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Message 8
From: "Louise Cass"
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:02:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37414] Re: Hue Test
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The hue test was fun and challenging - I imagine a lot depends on your
monitor - I was dismayed at getting 22 but did it again last night and
scored 6 - it appears to require much concentration
and tires the eyes! re Starbucks coffee for voters - maybe if they'd
offered it here we would have had a better turnout! At least you people down
below are more involved (with one side or the other)
-Canadians are so apathetic......

Louise

(My work may be viewed at www.LCassArt.com)

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Message 9
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:31:18 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37415] Interesting....
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also amazing....

http://www.maniacworld.com/art-in-the-eye-of-a-needle.html

Graham

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Message 10
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:44:39 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37416] Baren 9/11/01 Portfolio
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Bareners, long story short:.
Our portfolio, Remembering the Firemen of 911 is in the registry for the
virtual gallery of the
National September 11 Memorial and Museum at the World Trade Center.
The Chief Curator and Director, Jan Ramirez, is an Irvington resident and
spoke about the plans two weeks ago at the Irvington Public Library (the first
venue of our traveling exhibit.)
Thinking that she might be interested in our 911 portfolio, I brought an
envelope with much of our information. ..

This is what she responded:

"Thanks so much for carving out time on Sunday afternoon to attend my talk
about the National September 11 Memorial Museum project at the Irvington
Public Library, and for passing along the information about the 2002 portfolio of
woodblock prints that you and your colleagues did in honor of the NYC
firefighters after 9/11, now at the New York Public Library. If, perchance, you
have photographs of this body of work, or of your own prints, these are
precisely the kinds of artworks we intend to highlight in the museum’s forthcoming
Artists Registry – a virtual gallery and organizing system for allowing global
Internet visitors to access a broad range of creative expressions emanating
from the 9/11 attacks.
This web- feature will go live on our website beginning in November."
It was John Center's idea in 2001 that we make this woodblock portfolio
and volunteers signed up immediately.
Jan Ramirez and her curatorial staff selected 20 of the images from the
Remembering the Firemen of 911 and helped me with the logistics of logging on.
Bareners below, please get in touch with me so you can get directions to
log on, view, and write a description of your print, if needed. Then the
process will be complete.
Maria Arango, John Center, Tyrus Clutter, Dan Dew, Georga Garside, Bea Gold,
Sarah Hauser,Mary Kuster, Sharri LaPierre,Sharen Linder, James Mundie,
Barbara Mason, Julio Rodriguez, Marilynn Smith, Jan Telfer, Frank Trueba, Lezle
Williams,Cyndy Wilson, Gayle Wohlken.
This is a special patriotic undertaking, especially for tomorrow, November
4, 2008.
Carol Lyons,
Irvington, NY

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