Today's postings
- [Baren 37226] exhibition (Linda Beeman)
- [Baren 37227] Re: Rules, Lefties and favourites... (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 37228] Re: Online exhibition ... (Graham Scholes)
- [Baren 37229] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4568 (Oct 9, 2008) (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 37230] Re: Online exhibition ... ("Ellen Shipley")
- [Baren 37231] Re: Online exhibition ... ("Louise Cass")
- [Baren 37232] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4565 (Oct 7, 2008) (josepht280 # aol.com)
- [Baren 37233] Re: Online exhibition ... (Dave Bull)
- [Baren 37234] Re: Online exhibition ... (eli griggs)
- [Baren 37235] Best part of printing/new kind of reduction (Rosposfe # aol.com)
Message 1
From: Linda Beeman
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:40:11 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37226] exhibition
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This was a great site to look at. So many different styles and all so well done.
My favorite was in the middle of the pack: sunlight filtering thru the forest.> http://www.nipponhangain.com/exhibition58th.html
The question was asked what our favorite part of the process is. I love the carving - the smell, the sound, the mess. But my favorite part is taking the print off the block! The first time I did a moku hanga print that came out exactly as I wanted it to, I burst into tears! This process moves me like no other has. Can't explain it.
Linda
My favorite was in the middle of the pack: sunlight filtering thru the forest.> http://www.nipponhangain.com/exhibition58th.html
The question was asked what our favorite part of the process is. I love the carving - the smell, the sound, the mess. But my favorite part is taking the print off the block! The first time I did a moku hanga print that came out exactly as I wanted it to, I burst into tears! This process moves me like no other has. Can't explain it.
Linda
Message 2
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:44:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37227] Re: Rules, Lefties and favourites...
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Mark Mason wrote:
> Why is there all this hair splitting with "Moku Hanga"? It just
> means woodblock print. All the Sosaku and Shin stuff are schools or
> periods of woodblock printmaking. I don't fit in any school of
> thought, I just like to hand print woodblocks with water based
> pigments.
> By the same rule, surely an oil painting is still an oil painting,
> whether it's Impressionist or Cubist.
>
Bingo.......
Right on Mark.... I prefer to put all my energies into the work rather
than the name of the work.
(
Message 3
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:59:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37228] Re: Online exhibition ...
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Barbara Mason wrote:
> These were lovely,
> http://www.nipponhangain.com/exhibition58th.html
That does raise the standard....
Graham
Message 4
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:17:01 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37229] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4568 (Oct 9, 2008)
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Defining the Japanese terms helps me understand what we are doing and
exactly what this forum is about. To me it is interesting and
informative. I have never visited Japan and know little about their
cultural heritage. Japan seems to have a wonderful history of artists
creating beautiful work on paper done in water based pigments. I loved
seeing the prints on the page Dave sent for our viewing and will point
out that there were many lovely one color, black and white prints. I
considered this discussion to be of an intellectual nature, I learned
something new. If we are going to have exchanges that follow a certain
cultural tradition we need, to know, to clarify what that tradition
is, define it.
The majority have accepted a set of rules for this next exchange,
intellectual discussion defined terms along the way. Are we not here
to learn about all this stuff? Thank you Dave for enlightening me and
for sending that page of lovely prints.
Peace to all and those in this next exchange, have fun with your prints!
Marilynn
exactly what this forum is about. To me it is interesting and
informative. I have never visited Japan and know little about their
cultural heritage. Japan seems to have a wonderful history of artists
creating beautiful work on paper done in water based pigments. I loved
seeing the prints on the page Dave sent for our viewing and will point
out that there were many lovely one color, black and white prints. I
considered this discussion to be of an intellectual nature, I learned
something new. If we are going to have exchanges that follow a certain
cultural tradition we need, to know, to clarify what that tradition
is, define it.
The majority have accepted a set of rules for this next exchange,
intellectual discussion defined terms along the way. Are we not here
to learn about all this stuff? Thank you Dave for enlightening me and
for sending that page of lovely prints.
Peace to all and those in this next exchange, have fun with your prints!
Marilynn
Message 5
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:04:05 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37230] Re: Online exhibition ...
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Thanx Dave,
These are fantastic. What a wide range of styles.
And thanx for the no-bones definition of moku hanga.
Ellen
-(>-----~
Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ
~----- Talking about hanga in Japan ... (were we?) ... I received this link in
> my email today, from one of my collectors, who is also a member of
> 'Nihon Hangain', a large printmakers' group.
>
> http://www.nipponhangain.com/exhibition58th.html
>
> The page is in Japanese, but over at the top right, you can see a group
> of 33 linked names. Click to see some nice stuff! (The names are in
> Japanese, but when you see each linked page, the person's name is
> readable in the URL).
>
> Seems to be mostly 'moku hanga' I think, although this group also
> accepts artists who do etching, etc., according to their information
> page.
>
> Dave
>
>
These are fantastic. What a wide range of styles.
And thanx for the no-bones definition of moku hanga.
Ellen
-(>-----~
Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ
~----- Talking about hanga in Japan ... (were we?) ... I received this link in
> my email today, from one of my collectors, who is also a member of
> 'Nihon Hangain', a large printmakers' group.
>
> http://www.nipponhangain.com/exhibition58th.html
>
> The page is in Japanese, but over at the top right, you can see a group
> of 33 linked names. Click to see some nice stuff! (The names are in
> Japanese, but when you see each linked page, the person's name is
> readable in the URL).
>
> Seems to be mostly 'moku hanga' I think, although this group also
> accepts artists who do etching, etc., according to their information
> page.
>
> Dave
>
>
Message 6
From: "Louise Cass"
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:06:25 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37231] Re: Online exhibition ...
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I really enjoyed viewing these prints but what struck me is that they're all
'figurative' and very varied in subjects and treatment - super!
would these be so called ' professional artists'?
I haven't been to the 'moku hanga' exhibition in Toronto yet -it doesn't
exactly 'call' to me from looking at the Japanese Foundation site -
it's just about all abstract and installation pieces -very accomplished,
lots of nice colour but there's so little new which is what everyone
is pretty well striving for that figurative stuff is really more more fun to
look at....... anyway this kind of show is so 'Toronto' -
(you have to live here to know what I mean)..we did have a fun Nuit Blanche
tho' last Sat night which is where installation art really works -
in the streets, parking lots and stadiums etc. attracting huge crowds who
interact with it all...
Louise
)
Message 7
From: josepht280 # aol.com
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:24:04 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37232] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V45 #4565 (Oct 7, 2008)
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I don't know where to post this but this is a huge collection of prints to gaze at.
Joe T
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Message 8
From: Dave Bull
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:54:11 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37233] Re: Online exhibition ...
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Louise wrote:
> I really enjoyed viewing these prints but what struck me is that
> they're all
> 'figurative' and very varied in subjects and treatment - super!
> would these be so called ' professional artists'?
For the most part, no. Although I have no specific knowledge of this
particular group, it is an 'Art Association' and will be for the most
part made up of people who may use the term 'artists' to describe
themselves, but who are (in real life) schoolteachers, salarymen,
housewives, retired, etc. etc.
(I'm not being cynical there, just describing the situation)
There was an article on these Associations in the Japan Times a couple
of months back;
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fa20080124ec.html
The prints on that page I linked were indeed mostly figurative, so I
would assume that the 'Hangain' kind of specializes in that sort of
work. People working in abstract genres must be submitting work to some
other Association. Let me Google a bit .....
Yes, here we are - the 'Nihon Hanga Kyokai' (Japan Print Association)
http://www.hangakyoukai.com/76award.html
Those guys are obviously more 'serious'. There also seems to be less
woodblock, which is interesting. The dark gloomy guys use more etching
and other more obscure techniques; the 'normal' happy people use
woodlblock ... (Is my bias showing too strongly? :-)
Dave
> I really enjoyed viewing these prints but what struck me is that
> they're all
> 'figurative' and very varied in subjects and treatment - super!
> would these be so called ' professional artists'?
For the most part, no. Although I have no specific knowledge of this
particular group, it is an 'Art Association' and will be for the most
part made up of people who may use the term 'artists' to describe
themselves, but who are (in real life) schoolteachers, salarymen,
housewives, retired, etc. etc.
(I'm not being cynical there, just describing the situation)
There was an article on these Associations in the Japan Times a couple
of months back;
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fa20080124ec.html
The prints on that page I linked were indeed mostly figurative, so I
would assume that the 'Hangain' kind of specializes in that sort of
work. People working in abstract genres must be submitting work to some
other Association. Let me Google a bit .....
Yes, here we are - the 'Nihon Hanga Kyokai' (Japan Print Association)
http://www.hangakyoukai.com/76award.html
Those guys are obviously more 'serious'. There also seems to be less
woodblock, which is interesting. The dark gloomy guys use more etching
and other more obscure techniques; the 'normal' happy people use
woodlblock ... (Is my bias showing too strongly? :-)
Dave
Message 9
From: eli griggs
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:06:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37234] Re: Online exhibition ...
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--- Dave Bull wrote:
"The dark gloomy
> guys use more etching
> and other more obscure techniques; the 'normal'
> happy people use
> woodlblock ...
Gee David, I don't know how happy most Bareners really
are...
It seems to me anytime more than two or three members
get together it's only a few minutes before someone's
pulling out a knife... ;-)
Cheers, Eli
Message 10
From: Rosposfe # aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:05:40 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37235] Best part of printing/new kind of reduction
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Responding to Mark Mason's post:
The carving is fun but also the most predictable......When printing goes
well......each time you lift the sheet is like a little gift. Always a bit
different but the same too.....I especially like it when I print the keyblock last
and the previously abstract color shapes suddenly (when it goes well)
coalesce into an image. Printing is for me still quite a challenge and as such full
of excitement, experimentation and surprises.
And speaking of surprises, I just finished carving one of my blocks for
exchange #38....a 60 year old plank of California redwood that got pulled out
of our garage due to a remodel and some termite damage. I sanded it smoothish
(hard to do with the pronounced grain) and after I had carved the image and
set it aside, I heard the termites, from inside chewing their way thru the wood
as I worked on another plate. I'll be printing this weekend but now I
know the clock is ticking......I'll have to print that block before the termites
polish off the block. But I liked the idea of me carving from the outside as
they munched from the inside; each of us with a different idea about which is
the best part of printmaking with woodblock.
Andrew Stone
The carving is fun but also the most predictable......When printing goes
well......each time you lift the sheet is like a little gift. Always a bit
different but the same too.....I especially like it when I print the keyblock last
and the previously abstract color shapes suddenly (when it goes well)
coalesce into an image. Printing is for me still quite a challenge and as such full
of excitement, experimentation and surprises.
And speaking of surprises, I just finished carving one of my blocks for
exchange #38....a 60 year old plank of California redwood that got pulled out
of our garage due to a remodel and some termite damage. I sanded it smoothish
(hard to do with the pronounced grain) and after I had carved the image and
set it aside, I heard the termites, from inside chewing their way thru the wood
as I worked on another plate. I'll be printing this weekend but now I
know the clock is ticking......I'll have to print that block before the termites
polish off the block. But I liked the idea of me carving from the outside as
they munched from the inside; each of us with a different idea about which is
the best part of printmaking with woodblock.
Andrew Stone