Today's postings

  1. [Baren 36852] Re: Proofing stages ... (Barbara Mason)
  2. [Baren 36853] Re: Proofing stages ... (Scholes Graham)
  3. [Baren 36854] home-made whole wheat starch (eli griggs)
  4. [Baren 36855] RE: Proofing stages ... ("Maria Arango")
  5. [Baren 36856] Fw: do it for the boobie's (Shawn + Elizabeth Newton)
  6. [Baren 36857] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4519 (Sep 9, 2008) (Sharri LaPierre)
  7. [Baren 36858] Re: Proofing stages ... (Shireen Holman)
  8. [Baren 36859] Exchanges Update! ("Maria Arango")
  9. [Baren 36860] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4519 (Sep 9, 2008) (Scholes Graham)
  10. [Baren 36861] Re: Exchanges Update! (Bill Joel)
  11. [Baren 36862] RE: Exchange 39 ("Maria Arango")
  12. [Baren 36863] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  13. [Baren 36864] how do YOU make the sun shine? (Lana Lambert)
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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:04:10 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36852] Re: Proofing stages ...
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Dave,
I am always amazed at the difference between seeing it on the internet and seeing the actual print. The print is of course much better. The photo seems to flatten it out somehow.
I don't think you can improve much on the last one, it looks pretty good to me.
My best
Barbara
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Message 2
From: Scholes Graham
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:11:37 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36853] Re: Proofing stages ...
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This is a touching situation....

It is the artist that makes those kind of decisions.
Your work.... your decision.
Personally if I were to collaborate and get involved... I would want
royalties.

Graham
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Message 3
From: eli griggs
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:12:33 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36854] home-made whole wheat starch
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I may have posted about this a few years ago but here
I go again.

For those who are curious, making wheat paste starch
is a fairly simple proposition, though it does require
some real labor.

Take 5 lbs of whole wheat flour, dump it into a strong
muslin sack and sew the sack up. Now place the bag
into a large basin of water and start to knead the
bag.

As you work the bag, the starch will pass through the
cloth and you will need to periodically stop, allowing
the starch to settle to the bottom.

I found it easer to drain the basin into gallon plus
size jars for this part, so I could continue
separating the starch from the gluten, working in
rotation between two or three jars.

As most of the starch settles in the jars, syphon off
the clearest water and return it to the basin.

Eventually, all of the starch will separate from the
flour and what is left in the sack is an elastic ball
of gluten. When I first learned about this process, I
remember reading that the Japanese prepare a food from
the gluten.

Consolidate the starch in one jar and cover with
cheesecloth or a old nylon.

The wheat starch can be dried by evaporation and used
as is, but I've found it can have a small smell, so be
aware. You can add a drop or two of clove oil if you
like, before you remove the water or a very small drop
in paste as you prepare it.

The starch can be refined further by allowing it to
remain in water and letting mold/fungus grow on top of
the waters surface, from which they will send down
slender tendrils into the starch, feeding on any
gluten that remains.

Every now and again, over several days/weeks, the top
water is poured, skimmed off to prevent the mold from
taking over and the organisms must start again. Do
this until they will grow no more, at which all the
trace gluten has been removed. This process
definitely smells, so put the jar on the back porch
and do not let the mold get out of hand.

This last step is not strictly necessary. Remember,
when you prepare the paste, any organisms present will
be killed by the cooking heat and the amount of gluten
is very, very small.

Anyway, if you want to try your hand at this process,
just remember it will require some real work on your
part so don't get discouraged, if you keep at it, you
will succeed.

One more thing, the dry starch may be clumpy but you
can put it into a mortar,as you need it and grind it
into a fine powder without much trouble.

Personally, I think that artists should try it at
least once, simply for the experience and the
confidence that comes from knowing you are able to do
for yourself what most people depend on others for.

If you try this, please share your experience with the
group in a post.

Cheers, Eli
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Message 4
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:41:45 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36855] RE: Proofing stages ...
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Your suggestions on the blog:
> I don't think that this is 'it'. There are still things to change:
>
> -overhanging branches are catching too much light I think; they should
> 'disappear' into the night ...
> -the campfire is wimpy ... just doesn't glow enough
> -maybe that stone in the water at right is too bright
> -the light edge of the left tree could be glowing more ...
> -tent should be smoother colour; no reason for the 'goma' there ...
> -the ground around the fire looks strange; might need a block plug somewhere
> there ...
> -there is a faint white line underneath the overhanging branch - this is an
> indentation in the paper from the edge of one of the rockface blocks ...

My opinion:
-Overhanging branches are fine, you need the "frame" for composition
-campfire can be made to glow by darkening the ground around it just a tad
-stone is fine
-tree is fine, it is farther away than the branches and should stay in the
background, softly framing the "back"
-I would lighten the top/front of the tent at the beginning of the "dome",
and graduate the middle section to look darker towards the part that joins
the dark section. I would leave it 'goma' because that is the way everything
looks at night by the dancing fire. Nothing is very defined under that
light.
-With number two, the ground could use some contrasting areas, would make
the fire lighter, the same texture you have on the very edge of the bank
toward the river
-okay, if you say so

-I would also darken the very back of the figure, just a defining darker
shadow along the back edge, from nape to butt

Maria

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Message 5
From: Shawn + Elizabeth Newton
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:52:07 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36856] Fw: (message deleted)
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Message deleted: unrelated to woodblock printmaking
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Message 6
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:37:52 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36857] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4519 (Sep 9, 2008)
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Graham,
The adhesive I was referring to as "wheat paste" isn't wheat flour.
Well, I guess it may be at some point, but isn't when I get it. It is
wall paper paste in powder form. I think any starch paste would work
the same. For use in wallpapering I suppose one would mix a quantity
of water with it, but since I'm using so little, I just spritz the
back of the paper to be pasted with plain water and sprinkle the dry
powder over it, knock of the excess with a finger or two and place it
on the block ready to be printed. Have never had a lump ;-)

Cheers ~
Sharri
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Message 7
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:07:40 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36858] Re: Proofing stages ...
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Great print! The only things I would work on would be the fire and the
ground around it. And maybe just the ground around it because
darkening that would make the fire glow more anyway. The overhanging
branches look fine to me.

Shireen
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Message 8
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:54:10 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36859] Exchanges Update!
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Exchanges 37 and 37a are now online for your viewing enjoyment.
As usual, to my secret reviewers if you could please notify me of any of
my usual html idiocies. Its been a long two days!
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchanges.html

Exchange 38 is well on its way, deadline is November 1st so it is really
time to get going if you haven't started.
Also PLEASE NOTIFY YOUR COORDINATOR coordinator38@barenforum.org if you have
NOT already confirmed or if you need to bow out.
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_38/exchange_38.html

And....Exchange 39 will open for business on October 1st, which is really
just around the corner.
I took the liberty of making it a moku-hanga only exchange to make us oily
people get out our brushes and pigment and toothpaste--er, I mean rice
paste, of course. In honor of [Barenforum]'s watery roots, I will make every
winter exchange a moku-hanga exchange so that we keep the tradition alive.
I also took the liberty of choosing the 'other' paper size, long, thin and
handsome-ly vertically oriented (no offense to those of us who are shorter
and wider in nature). If anyone has objections please contact someone else
because I'm the exchange boss. Heh, I just love authority gone wild...
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_39/exchange_39.html

ANYHOW! We need a theme, so start sending in your ideas and once we have
about five ideas we can start voting. I'll abstain from suggesting anything
this time since I already took enough liberties for this weekend.
Themes? Themes? Themes?

Maria...must-get-OFF-computer-now...

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Message 9
From: Scholes Graham
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:02:54 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36860] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4519 (Sep 9, 2008)
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Thanks for the clarification.... I wondered when I read your post....
about the sprinkling.
At any rate I thought I had read of heard some where that wallpaper
paste was not archival.
I hope I am wrong on this point. Certainly it is a easier way to get
there... Mixing up a paste is
time consuming and when it is finished it only lasts a day or two
before the mould sets in.
Refrigerate it will extends its life...

Graham
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Message 10
From: Bill Joel
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:06:59 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36861] Re: Exchanges Update!
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Question: Does this mean that for Exchange #39 we *must* use strictly
traditional materials, or can we use more modern materials? For
example, methyl cellulose paste as opposed to rice paste.

As for a theme, how about "Nature Vs. Technology"?

TTFN!
Bill Joel
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Message 11
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:36:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36862] RE: Exchange 39
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> Question: Does this mean that for Exchange #39 we *must* use strictly
> traditional materials, or can we use more modern materials? For
> example, methyl cellulose paste as opposed to rice paste.
>
> As for a theme, how about "Nature Vs. Technology"?
>
> TTFN!
> Bill Joel

Theme duly noted.

Of course you may use whatever materials are available in the 21st century.


Incidentally, I've received one email in support and one against the
moku-hanga-only thing, so keep that feedback coming, please.
I was really kind of kidding when I said to contact someone else. My email
box welcomes feedback.
After catching up all the galleries I thought it would be kind of cool to
shake things up a bit and introduce some variety into our archive collection
and challenge the membership to the new and untried. But if a once a year
moku-hanga is not what the membership wants, then we won't do it, of course.
Not a big deal at all.

Maria

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Message 12
From: Blog Manager
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:55:41 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36863] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (53 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)

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Site Name: Woodblock RoundTable

Author: Dave Bull
Item: [River in Autumn - 9] First few proofs ...
http://woodblock.com/roundtable/archives/2008/09/river_in_autumn_9.html

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Site Name: mLee Fine Art

Author: Marissa L. Swinghammer
Item: I was pissed
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-was-pissed.html

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Message 13
From: Lana Lambert
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:14:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36864] how do YOU make the sun shine?
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After a long delay due to lurking and life, I'm trying to catch up on my baren reading and blogging.
I'm sure that every printer reaches a dark spot every once and again.  I'm not talking about wanting to pull your hair out over warped blocks, dull tools, crappy ink, or uncooperative paper.  I'm talking about the empty feeling you get that sucks the life out of you when a customer marvels at your finished work that you toiled over and unlocked the secrets of the print gods for and then promptly says "Neat, but where is the original?"
Obviously, I have a well of hope in me that replenishes eventually after a vampire like that comes along but I'd like to know how everyone else keeps on keeping on?  What do you guys do to cheer yourselves up?  How do you guys, as Tom Waits would say, "get behind the mule in the morning and plow?"
 
Also, the time is soon coming for me to change the sheath on my baren.  Any tips and tricks before I endevour for the first time?
My husband and I just got a Moso bamboo plant and I am hoping that if it thrives I may have a source for sheaths at the house.  I know it is not the correct species of bamboo but local beats shipping freight from Japan.
 
-Lana