Today's postings
- [Baren 36302] Re: water-based relief inks (Tiberiu Chelcea)
- [Baren 36303] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4451 (Jul 31, 2008) (Marilynn Smith)
- [Baren 36304] Re: Kudos to Maria (ArtfulCarol # aol.com)
- [Baren 36305] Re: printing with shallow carving (David Harrison)
- [Baren 36306] Re: printing with shallow carving (David Harrison)
- [Baren 36307] RE: OFF TOPIC Kudos to Maria ("Maria Arango")
- [Baren 36308] Closing ("Sales")
- [Baren 36309] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4449 (Jul 31, 2008) (mkuster)
- [Baren 36310] Re: Exchange 37 and temperature (Elizabeth Atwood)
- [Baren 36311] Re: Closing (ArtSpotiB # aol.com)
- [Baren 36312] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Scholes Graham)
- [Baren 36313] Re: Exchange 37 and temperature (Scholes Graham)
- [Baren 36314] Year of the Rat--finally! (Frank Trueba)
- [Baren 36315] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
- [Baren 36316] pearlescent/iridescent & luminescent pigments (ArtSpotiB # aol.com)
Message 1
From: Tiberiu Chelcea
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 36302] Re: water-based relief inks
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> Dean (mainly), do you know or have any thoughts on whether your water-based
> relief inks and Daniel Smith's water-based relief inks will mix?
Daniel Smith's water-based relief inks are not water-based, but oil-based and water-soluble (i.e. can be cleaned with water). As for mixing them, well, oil and water don't mix, but once the water from the water-based inks evaporates (pretty quickly), the pigment and whatever binder is in them might mix with the oil support in the DS inks. But, that's just a guess.
Tibi
> relief inks and Daniel Smith's water-based relief inks will mix?
Daniel Smith's water-based relief inks are not water-based, but oil-based and water-soluble (i.e. can be cleaned with water). As for mixing them, well, oil and water don't mix, but once the water from the water-based inks evaporates (pretty quickly), the pigment and whatever binder is in them might mix with the oil support in the DS inks. But, that's just a guess.
Tibi
Message 2
From: Marilynn Smith
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:03:21 -0700
Subject: [Baren 36303] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4451 (Jul 31, 2008)
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For oil ink on carvings with fine lines I second Maria, use a piece of
mat board not blankets. I find the block needs to be run through
every 5 or so prints with a piece of throw away paper, it just seems
to clog up. Good luck,
Marilynn
mat board not blankets. I find the block needs to be run through
every 5 or so prints with a piece of throw away paper, it just seems
to clog up. Good luck,
Marilynn
Message 3
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:40:40 EDT
Subject: [Baren 36304] Re: Kudos to Maria
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This is an unedited quote from Architectural Digest, Sept '08:
"The good and gracious angel has not disappeared from the face of the
earth....sometimes she is only singing in Las Vegas" !!!
Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY
"The good and gracious angel has not disappeared from the face of the
earth....sometimes she is only singing in Las Vegas" !!!
Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY
Message 4
From: David Harrison
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:47:35 +0100
Subject: [Baren 36305] Re: printing with shallow carving
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Thanks everyone for the amazingly thorough replies. Yet again I have to tip my
hat to Bareners for their expertise and willingness to share it.
Now to print it all off, read thoroughly and try not to make a mess of the
edition :-)
David H
hat to Bareners for their expertise and willingness to share it.
Now to print it all off, read thoroughly and try not to make a mess of the
edition :-)
David H
Message 5
From: David Harrison
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:50:16 +0100
Subject: [Baren 36306] Re: printing with shallow carving
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Hi Barbara,
I'm rolling the ink, but the magnesium carbonate idea is a nifty one. Just
picked some up from my local outdoorsy store under the moniker 'climbing
chalk'. Had to check all the brands to find one that didn't contain drying
agent, but at least it's very inexpensive.
Do you have any advice on proportions, or is it just a case of 'keep adding
until it looks right'?
Thanks,
David
I'm rolling the ink, but the magnesium carbonate idea is a nifty one. Just
picked some up from my local outdoorsy store under the moniker 'climbing
chalk'. Had to check all the brands to find one that didn't contain drying
agent, but at least it's very inexpensive.
Do you have any advice on proportions, or is it just a case of 'keep adding
until it looks right'?
Thanks,
David
Message 6
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 36307] RE: OFF TOPIC Kudos to Maria
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Herding cats is something I do every night so I get a lot of practice. We
have indoor/outdoor companion-cats, all rescues, and outdoor-only cats which
are either petable-neuter-spayed-vaccinated or still feral waiting to get
caught in my traps.
So at night I have to herd all my companion-cats indoors to spend a safe
night on the couch and studio furniture.
Much like printmakers, most of the cats are well behaved and come in when it
is time (or when THEY feel it is time). Some just don't feel that your
wishes ought to supersede their wishes and some just plain LOVE the "catch
me if you can" game, especially in the desert garden where spines and
stickers abound. I think they like to hear me say "ouch".
But in the end, like printmakers, when I finally get tired and just go
inside and slam the door, they are afraid of getting left out and come
mewing like kittens, begging to be allowed in. If all else fails, I take a
drive around the block, pull into the driveway, honk the horn and ring the
doorbell. Any one of those strategies is enough to panic them inside, let
alone all three.
Unfortunately even in Vegas it's against the law to trap live printmakers,
otherwise I would have used that strategy already in the effort to complete
an exchange on time. You would be surprised how tame and loving those pesky
tom-cats get after their, ahem, "visit" to the vet.
All in jest, Maria, who would never really spay/neuter a printmaker
VRRRRRRRRRMMMMM-SCREEEECH!!! HONK HONK HONK!!! DINGGGGGGGG-DONNNNNNGGGGGG...
Maria Arango
http://1000woodcuts.com
http://artfestivalguide.info
have indoor/outdoor companion-cats, all rescues, and outdoor-only cats which
are either petable-neuter-spayed-vaccinated or still feral waiting to get
caught in my traps.
So at night I have to herd all my companion-cats indoors to spend a safe
night on the couch and studio furniture.
Much like printmakers, most of the cats are well behaved and come in when it
is time (or when THEY feel it is time). Some just don't feel that your
wishes ought to supersede their wishes and some just plain LOVE the "catch
me if you can" game, especially in the desert garden where spines and
stickers abound. I think they like to hear me say "ouch".
But in the end, like printmakers, when I finally get tired and just go
inside and slam the door, they are afraid of getting left out and come
mewing like kittens, begging to be allowed in. If all else fails, I take a
drive around the block, pull into the driveway, honk the horn and ring the
doorbell. Any one of those strategies is enough to panic them inside, let
alone all three.
Unfortunately even in Vegas it's against the law to trap live printmakers,
otherwise I would have used that strategy already in the effort to complete
an exchange on time. You would be surprised how tame and loving those pesky
tom-cats get after their, ahem, "visit" to the vet.
All in jest, Maria, who would never really spay/neuter a printmaker
VRRRRRRRRRMMMMM-SCREEEECH!!! HONK HONK HONK!!! DINGGGGGGGG-DONNNNNNGGGGGG...
Maria Arango
http://1000woodcuts.com
http://artfestivalguide.info
Message 7
From: "Sales"
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:01:20 -0500
Subject: [Baren 36308] Closing
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Apropos of almost nothing dealing with Baren, I wanted to pass along the
disturbing news of the closing of Rembrandt Graphic Arts recently.
Rembrandt was founded by George Laslo in 1947 and for 61 years the
company was a strong competitor, a great customer, and in recent years
with Suellen and Brice holding down the fort, they were good friends as
well.
No advertisement for Graphic Chemical needed here. You know where we are
if you need us for any printmaking product.
I should have mentioned this previously, probably did, (my mind is
becoming cluttered with useless information), but Graphic has added in
the past 2-3 months 110 different papers, almost all of them are
oriental sheets. Check out the web site for additional information.
Dean Clark
Graphic Chemical & Ink Company
disturbing news of the closing of Rembrandt Graphic Arts recently.
Rembrandt was founded by George Laslo in 1947 and for 61 years the
company was a strong competitor, a great customer, and in recent years
with Suellen and Brice holding down the fort, they were good friends as
well.
No advertisement for Graphic Chemical needed here. You know where we are
if you need us for any printmaking product.
I should have mentioned this previously, probably did, (my mind is
becoming cluttered with useless information), but Graphic has added in
the past 2-3 months 110 different papers, almost all of them are
oriental sheets. Check out the web site for additional information.
Dean Clark
Graphic Chemical & Ink Company
Message 8
From: mkuster
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:02:20 -0400
Subject: [Baren 36309] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V44 #4449 (Jul 31, 2008)
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I regularly use the dry pigments by brushing them on top of my print
while the ink is still tacky. It provides a bit of wow factor and I can
selective-place the powder consistently across the edition.
while the ink is still tacky. It provides a bit of wow factor and I can
selective-place the powder consistently across the edition.
Message 9
From: Elizabeth Atwood
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:09:35 -0400
Subject: [Baren 36310] Re: Exchange 37 and temperature
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Graham..............
Where would one learn to make a thumbtack baren? If it is cheap to
make, it would be a good experiment.
ElizA
Where would one learn to make a thumbtack baren? If it is cheap to
make, it would be a good experiment.
ElizA
Message 10
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:10:00 EDT
Subject: [Baren 36311] Re: Closing
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My GOSH but I nearly had a heart attack with the email header "closing" and
the sender being "graphicchemical.com". Kind of you to write about the sad
closing, of Rembrandt Graphic Arts company. Glad that my initial impression was
completely in error. Keep on keeping on, Dean Clark!
ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba in studio
Underground nuclear testing, defoliation of the rain forests, toxic waste
... Let's put it this way: if the world were a big apartment, we wouldn't
get our deposit back. -John Ross
the sender being "graphicchemical.com". Kind of you to write about the sad
closing, of Rembrandt Graphic Arts company. Glad that my initial impression was
completely in error. Keep on keeping on, Dean Clark!
ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba in studio
Underground nuclear testing, defoliation of the rain forests, toxic waste
... Let's put it this way: if the world were a big apartment, we wouldn't
get our deposit back. -John Ross
Message 11
From: Scholes Graham
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:10:17 -0700
Subject: [Baren 36312] Re: Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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It is a sad week here in Victoria, as Fenwick Lansdowne passed away
today.
One of Canada�s if not the worlds greatest wildlife artist.... He is
truly
an originator of his art form.... and copied by many.
I had the occasion to meet him and his wife Helen and
truly it was a memorable meeting....
I first met him in Montreal back in the 60�s when he was quite
young and regarded as a great artist at that time.
He worked with a handicap of being stricken with Polio when
a very young lad...
I recall a statement he made many years ago, when he was
being acclaimed as a great artist..... He said.... �someday when
I learn to handle the backgrounds of my bird paintings I will
consider myself in the league of a great artist� He was noted
for the simplicity of the vignette style for the atmosphere around
the subjects.
He was a gentle man and I admired him greatly.
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_JLansdowne.htm
Graham
Message 12
From: Scholes Graham
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:15:24 -0700
Subject: [Baren 36313] Re: Exchange 37 and temperature
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Hi Elizabeth....
Trust you are well.... been a long time since our last
correspondence... ) <:
Here is the website that gives you the information re making a
thumbtack baren.
http://www.printmakingnews.com/powerbaren.php
I plan on making one just for the heck of it.... It will take a while
as I have several jobs lined up .... Look at one I just finished.
www.woodblockart.ca/Asculpture.html
Graham..............
> Where would one learn to make a thumbtack baren? If it is cheap to
> make, it would be a good experiment.
> ElizA
>
Trust you are well.... been a long time since our last
correspondence... ) <:
Here is the website that gives you the information re making a
thumbtack baren.
http://www.printmakingnews.com/powerbaren.php
I plan on making one just for the heck of it.... It will take a while
as I have several jobs lined up .... Look at one I just finished.
www.woodblockart.ca/Asculpture.html
Graham..............
> Where would one learn to make a thumbtack baren? If it is cheap to
> make, it would be a good experiment.
> ElizA
>
Message 13
From: Frank Trueba
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:28:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 36314] Year of the Rat--finally!
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Hi everyone,
Or, more accurately, hi to the Year of the Rat exchange people.
While I used to pride myself in getting my cards out pretty early
in the year, it's possible I may be one of the last this year. Anyway,
my Year of the Rat postcards are on their way to you all. Hopefully,
the recipients have seen the animated movie Ratatouille (if not the
card won't be as funny, sorry).
On top of it all, I managed to seal my envelopes and forget to include
the printing info. For those who may be interested, my cards are a
solarplate printed etching-like using Daniel Smith inks on a variety
of papers (Rives BFK white or Stonehenge grey or watercolor paper).
To make the printing quicker, I actually made two plates and while
pretty much identical, the rats depicted may be more or less hairy
than the one that will eventually be posted at the Exchange website.
I hope you enjoy the card.
frank
Or, more accurately, hi to the Year of the Rat exchange people.
While I used to pride myself in getting my cards out pretty early
in the year, it's possible I may be one of the last this year. Anyway,
my Year of the Rat postcards are on their way to you all. Hopefully,
the recipients have seen the animated movie Ratatouille (if not the
card won't be as funny, sorry).
On top of it all, I managed to seal my envelopes and forget to include
the printing info. For those who may be interested, my cards are a
solarplate printed etching-like using Daniel Smith inks on a variety
of papers (Rives BFK white or Stonehenge grey or watercolor paper).
To make the printing quicker, I actually made two plates and while
pretty much identical, the rats depicted may be more or less hairy
than the one that will eventually be posted at the Exchange website.
I hope you enjoy the card.
frank
Message 14
From: Blog Manager
Date: 2 Aug 2008 03:55:33 -0000
Subject: [Baren 36315] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (51 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Gayle's Woodblock Blog
Item: Baren Exchange 37A Spoiler
http://web.me.com/g_wohlken/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/8/1_Baren_Exchange_37A_Spoiler.html
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
http://phare-camp.blogspot.com
http://amymstoner.blogspot.com
http://williamleeholtfineart.blogspot.com
http://web.mac.com/g_wohlken/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html
http://curiousmatthew.blogspot.com
http://laine.lainegreenway.com/index.html
http://azuregrackle.com/blogs/index.php?blog=2
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
http://www.jauntyrakes.blogspot.com
http://sheiko.blogspot.com
http://studio-window.blogspot.com
http://alynn-guerra.blogspot.com
http://curiouslydrawn.blogspot.com
http://veloprint.blogspot.com
http://kathewelch.blogspot.com
http://serendipityartist.wordpress.com
http://ainescannell.blogspot.com
http://www.pistolespress.blogspot.com
http://1000woodcuts.com/latest.html
http://myhermitude.blogspot.com
http://jenniferscabin.blogspot.com
http://www.woodymoody.blogspot.com
http://www.barebonesart.blogspot.com
http://amandagordonmiller.blogspot.com
http://www.danielallegrucci.com/wordpress/
http://burnishings.blogspot.com
http://kriswiltse.blogspot.com
http://LynnAllisonStarun.blogspot.com
http://grabadoprintmaking.blogspot.com
http://maregina-arte.blogspot.com
http://www.danieldew.blogspot.com
http://aprintmakersblog.blogspot.com
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (51 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Gayle's Woodblock Blog
Item: Baren Exchange 37A Spoiler
http://web.me.com/g_wohlken/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/8/1_Baren_Exchange_37A_Spoiler.html
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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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http://woodblock.com
http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
http://phare-camp.blogspot.com
http://amymstoner.blogspot.com
http://williamleeholtfineart.blogspot.com
http://web.mac.com/g_wohlken/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html
http://curiousmatthew.blogspot.com
http://laine.lainegreenway.com/index.html
http://azuregrackle.com/blogs/index.php?blog=2
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
http://www.jauntyrakes.blogspot.com
http://sheiko.blogspot.com
http://studio-window.blogspot.com
http://alynn-guerra.blogspot.com
http://curiouslydrawn.blogspot.com
http://veloprint.blogspot.com
http://kathewelch.blogspot.com
http://serendipityartist.wordpress.com
http://ainescannell.blogspot.com
http://www.pistolespress.blogspot.com
http://1000woodcuts.com/latest.html
http://myhermitude.blogspot.com
http://jenniferscabin.blogspot.com
http://www.woodymoody.blogspot.com
http://www.barebonesart.blogspot.com
http://amandagordonmiller.blogspot.com
http://www.danielallegrucci.com/wordpress/
http://burnishings.blogspot.com
http://kriswiltse.blogspot.com
http://LynnAllisonStarun.blogspot.com
http://grabadoprintmaking.blogspot.com
http://maregina-arte.blogspot.com
http://www.danieldew.blogspot.com
http://aprintmakersblog.blogspot.com
Message 15
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 02:07:24 EDT
Subject: [Baren 36316] pearlescent/iridescent & luminescent pigments
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Marilynn Smith writes:
> pearlescent, iridescent and
> luminescent pigments
>
You're in for a treat with these colors, Marilyn. Some of them are
encapsulated mica, which completely changes when under focused light in a dark room.
Others appear different from each viewing angle.
A recent series of mine is named "Beauty, thy name is Night". This past June
my open studio was a 15 x 25' dark room. There were black painted drop cloths
on the walls, mounted art work {using these pigments} and chalked quotes about
night/moon/dark from great creators above and below the art. Spectators were
handed flashlights and welcomed "into night". These Daniel Smith colors are
like the mica in Japanese prints on steriods. Some of my works were about fog at
night using the metallics, others were of moonlight or the moon, stars or
just the dark indigo night. These could be "tricky" but can be evocative and
meaningful.
Some thoughts...
Start with a small/thin amount over a large area. Perhaps multiple passes
with the block.
Try pale over dark.
I was not happy with mixing them. Layering, yes.
Consider them atmospheric as well as Klimt-ish/icon like.
I very much want to hear about your explorations in this area, please.
Thanks.
ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba at OMebase
Underground nuclear testing, defoliation of the rain forests, toxic waste
... Let's put it this way: if the world were a big apartment, we wouldn't
get our deposit back. -John Ross
> pearlescent, iridescent and
> luminescent pigments
>
You're in for a treat with these colors, Marilyn. Some of them are
encapsulated mica, which completely changes when under focused light in a dark room.
Others appear different from each viewing angle.
A recent series of mine is named "Beauty, thy name is Night". This past June
my open studio was a 15 x 25' dark room. There were black painted drop cloths
on the walls, mounted art work {using these pigments} and chalked quotes about
night/moon/dark from great creators above and below the art. Spectators were
handed flashlights and welcomed "into night". These Daniel Smith colors are
like the mica in Japanese prints on steriods. Some of my works were about fog at
night using the metallics, others were of moonlight or the moon, stars or
just the dark indigo night. These could be "tricky" but can be evocative and
meaningful.
Some thoughts...
Start with a small/thin amount over a large area. Perhaps multiple passes
with the block.
Try pale over dark.
I was not happy with mixing them. Layering, yes.
Consider them atmospheric as well as Klimt-ish/icon like.
I very much want to hear about your explorations in this area, please.
Thanks.
ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba at OMebase
Underground nuclear testing, defoliation of the rain forests, toxic waste
... Let's put it this way: if the world were a big apartment, we wouldn't
get our deposit back. -John Ross