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Message 6
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 34283] Re: Blogs.
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Dave...
I'm loving this idea because, quite frankly, I've often avoided posting to my blog on other topics so that it would be more 'printerly', though as an artist I do more than prints, plus I travel a lot and would like all this in one blog. Why not, instead of tags like 'woodcuts' or 'woodblock' or 'relief', just use the label 'Baren' when posting something on relief that would appeal to the Baren membership. I cannot think of any other type of art that would use this label and it would be apropo for any blog entries for our group.

Just my two cents...Diane

www.dianecutter.com
www.theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
www.DCutter.etsy.com

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Message 7
From: "Mark Mason"
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:19:11 +0100
Subject: [Baren 34284] Re: Blog Labels
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Thanks Dave,

I'll change the label I'll use to:

Woodblock

I hope raising this subject is of use to other Blogging Forum members.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Message 1
From: Dave Bull
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:20:19 +0900
Subject: [Baren 34285] Re: Blogs.
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Diane wrote:
> Why not, instead of tags like 'woodcuts' or 'woodblock' or 'relief',
> just use the label 'Baren' when posting something on relief that would
> appeal to the Baren membership.  I cannot think of any other type of
> art that would use this label and it would be apropo for any blog
> entries for our group.

I would hesitate to ask everyone to do it that way; in Mark's case -
just for one example - he would rather have his posts labelled with
general terms that would be understandable by anybody who visited his
blog, not just us Baren members ...

But as I mentioned, it would be no problem from our point of view if
you use whichever term you wish .. just let Julio know what you decide,
and then be consistent in its application to your posts.

Hopefully, it shouldn't be too difficult for us all to apply these
changes, so that the [Baren] blog feed can become more focussed on our
'mission' ...

Dave

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Message 2
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 34286] Re: Blogs.
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I can understand that... For myself I use about 8-10 labels each time since they are in Spanish and English so one more won't hurt. I'll let Julio know... Thanks for bringing all this up!

Diane

www.dianecutter.com
www.theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
www.DCutter.etsy.com

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Message 3
From: L Cass
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:01:03 -0400
Subject: [Baren 34287] Re: Reduction Prints
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Hi Annie - Good luck with your reduction prints!
I know I mentioned a little while back that I was starting a 1st
attempt at a reduction print in moku hanga method - it's
going slowly (as I have to produce ptgs as well) and it's two blocks
(each 9" x 12") to be joined horizontally -
subject is cliffs and sea - have managed to print the first batch
with a 'bokashi' ranging from mauve sky
(cut out white clouds) to deep thalo blue water (cut out white cliffs
and boat sails) - obviously using 2 brushes
(hanga bakie and maru bake)) now have to cut all that sea and sky
away and will print pale yellow for shore
and cliff tops hoping to build it up with layers of greens and rusty
reds with black line for the final go - also hoping
my rudimentary registration system works -does all this sound logical?
I will send photos when and if this turns out to be worth viewing.

I have a question re knives - a woodworking friend has given me 2
sizes (2mm & 3mm) of his 'chip' carving knives which look
somewhat similar to the recommended 'tohs' but top side of the blade
is curved -they are Moor knives made in the U.S.A.
is anyone familiar with these? I have always been hasty (and lazy)
and generally cut away on each side of my lines with
small gouges (anyone who has received my prints in exchanges will be
familiar with the somewhat expressionist cum medieval
look to my technique).

What I'm enjoying with the moku hanga technique is the ease of
cleanup over inky rollers, etc. Also inexpensive barens
seem to be working quite well for me. Now, all I have to worry about
is rewetting the paper (bought at the Japoanese paper Place in TO,
it's called 'Tamara Udaban -sized' - comes in15" x 56"and is
gorgeous.These prints had better work!

btw -for people using tube watercolours with nori - 'permanent violet
' works beautifully

bw Louise Cass

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Message 4
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34288] Re: Blogs.
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I rather dislike this idea of labels on the blogs because I often
find that even though the blog may be about intaglio I glean
something applicable to woodblock. I think we are limiting our
possibilities to exclude other forms of printmaking. That's my two
bits worth.

Cheers ~
Sharri

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Message 5
From: "hanna_platt # excite.com"
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:26:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 34289] reductions and fairy tales
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Hi everyone,
I am also working on a reduction print right now Annie and my best advice is to start with more prints than you need for the edition and plan on losing some prints to goofs and some to experimenting with color. after each run i separate any goofs and use them as the experiments for my next color. This is my first reduction print since school so i don't have much advice.

I signed up for the fairy tale exchange and im very excited about it. here is a great list of fairy tales from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fairy_talesList_of_fairy_tales.

P.S.
If anyone is in the Seattle area
I have two woodcuts in Print! Seattle Print Arts 3rd Biennial Juried Exhibition
It will run October 1st through November 15th, 2007. Kittredge Gallery, University of Puget Sound , Tacoma , WA.
Juror: Sarah Suzuki Assistant Curator of Prints and Illustrated Books at the Museum of Modern Art, New York.
Also on exhibit are prints from Seattle Print Arts’ Portfolio Exchanges 2000–2006. An amazing assembly of over 120 artworks by 85 artists.
This is a great show and of course is so much better in person but if you can't make it here is a link to the online show.
http://www.seattleprintarts.org/calls_moreinfo/UPS_show.html

viza

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Message 6
From: "hanna_platt # excite.com"
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:34:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 34290] fairy tale link
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oops
here is that fairy tale link again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fairy_tales
viza

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Message 7
From: eli griggs
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:48:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 34291] Re: Blogs.
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I agree completely with Sharri. Inspiration is where
you find it and while we agree to limit ourselves to
woodcut discussions on the forum, as artists we need
to share a more rounded view of our arts in total.

The blogs are a safe method to do both

Several artists here mix media and techniques with
their printmaking and having the chance to see what is
being done that I might not have otherwise seen or
known about is important.

If members are forced to edit their blogs to tailor to
the taste of a few here, pretty soon they won't bother
posting at all.

Looking at a link in the blog digest takes all of
about three seconds to view and decide if interesting
enough to read on or delete. IMO making this much
noise about a three second effort is a bit silly and
dangerously counterproductive to the idea of an online
community of sharing artists.

Eli

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Message 8
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:17:15 -0400
Subject: [Baren 34292] Re: Reduction Prints and A Ray Hudson Print
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Thanks so much, Bareners, for all the great tips about reduction
prints. Keep 'em coming! Mike, your 3-block reduction print called
"Blue Shoes" is stunning. Were you machine-carving by then, or still
cutting by hand? Either way, it's a beautiful print, and I'm amazed
at how much color you achieved just using overlays of what I believe
are three essential colors.

Lynita, thanks for the warning about losing the little islands of
support for the paper as the carving progresses. I hadn't considered
that.

This first reduction print I'm planning will be fairly monochromatic
(unless I exercise my prerogative to change my mind), which will help
keep it from turning muddy while I learn about the technique.

On another note, today I was shoe shopping at my favorite local
outdoor store, The Mountain Goat, and there above the little trying-
on-shoes bench was a lovely autumn woodblock print - a mountain scene
by Ray Hudson! Thought Ray should know.

best,
Annie

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Message 9
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:52:58 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34293] Re: A Ray Hudson Print
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Annie writes:
"On another note, today I was shoe shopping at my favorite local
outdoor store, The Mountain Goat, and there above the little trying-
on-shoes bench was a lovely autumn woodblock print - a mountain scene
by Ray Hudson! Thought Ray should know."

Hey Annie...was the print you saw at the store Ray's Calendar 2004 cover ?

http://www.barenforum.org/calendar/

http://www.barenforum.org/calendar/calendarland.html


Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)

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Message 10
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:13:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34294] Re: Reduction Prints and A Ray Hudson Print
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Hi, Annie! Glad you liked the "Blue Shoes" print -- I was totally
hand-carving then (through March, 2004). Since March, 2004, I've only hand
carved 'small' blocks and used my program controlled router for almost every
print larger than chuban, I suppose. The three 'essential' colors in that
print were various transparent washes of Ultramarine Blue, Quinacridone
Magenta, and Sumi (black).

Paper support islands in reduction prints can be glued in (a few dabs of
hotmelt), by the way -- just making sure that the island material doesn't
stick up above the block surface and you can keep the paper out of the ink
pretty easily that way.

Ray's print at your outdoor store? Baren is EVERYwhere!!! :?)

Best,

Mike

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
http://mlyon.com

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Message 11
From: Dave Bull
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:39:25 +0900
Subject: [Baren 34295] Re: Blogs.
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Sharri wrote:
> I rather dislike this idea of labels on the blogs because I often find
> that even though the blog may be about intaglio I glean something
> applicable to woodblock. I think we are limiting our possibilities to
> exclude other forms of printmaking.

The 'problem' though Sharri, is that if we don't circumscribe this
somehow, the feed will just grow to the point where it becomes so
unwieldy that it becomes useless as a source of information/connections
for us. We're getting requests to add blogs weekly (more often,
actually), and have to draw the line somewhere.

Yes, it's easy to skip over yet another post about a watercolour
painting, but when it gets to the point where there are dozens of them
in the list every day? Not so easy ...

What I would recommend for those who want 'more' is simply to get
familiar with following RSS feeds yourself. Nearly all modern
browser/email software has this capability, or you can use a (free)
dedicated 'feed reader'. My own feedreader (I use NetNewsWire on the
Mac) has become an indispensable tool for me, allowing me to keep in
touch with any number of websites around the web, with me never having
to actually visit the sites in question. The posted information is
presented to me _within_ the reader, and I can read everything in one,
convenient place. (We actually have the same capability with the Baren
feed - to _include the body content of each post_ within the feed - but
decided to simply use titles and links.)

Using a good feed reader will transform the way you use the internet,
making your browsing far more productive and 'efficient'. (And from a
publisher's point of view, having my own feeds available for people has
turned many casual browsers - people who would have visited just once -
into regular readers ...)

Without question, feeds are going to become far more ubiquitous on the
'net, and I think that by keeping our own aggregated feed fairly
focussed, it will make it more useful to people ...

Dave

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Message 12
From: "Jenn Schmitt"
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:42:53 -0400
Subject: [Baren 34296] Periodic Table plea
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Hello all -

Can folks please email me if they are interested in participating in the
Periodic Table Printmaking project? I am going to have a handful of
elements that will need to be reassigned and then completed promptly. I'm
hoping to get some new printmakers added to the list so we can have as many
diverse styles as possible. Feel free to pass this along to other
printmakers offlist.

All the rules and links can be found here:
http://azuregrackle.com/periodictable/

Thanks so much!

Jenn

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