Today's postings
- [Baren 33472] Print Analysis (Victor Blank)
- [Baren 33473] Re: Print Analysis (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 33474] Re: Print Analysis ( slinders # comcast.net)
- [Baren 33475] Re: Print Analysis ("Barbara Carr")
- [Baren 33476] Re: Print Analysis (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
- [Baren 33477] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
Message 1
From: Victor Blank
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33472] Print Analysis
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As a followup to my last email about auction sites and finding artists who, ahem, move one's creative juices....
As I've gone through many of the old Baren posts I noticed that one topic hasn't really been addressed: that of opinions on the works of Woodblock artists.
I taught myself to paint (oils/acrylics) not by taking classes but by
reading books which just took a look at old master's works, and pointed
out what they did to make the painting work. But with printmaking,
the process itself is as intricate and important as the idea and
creation of the image....and is one of the reasons I'm a printmaker.
If it's possible to get so much emotion cooking with regards to the print exchange, I reckon we might be able to get the same passions fired up with regards to prints done by those who preceded us. I can look at etchings and aquatints and see what someone did (and how well they did it), and discuss the merits or lack thereof with another person who etches.
But as someone who is just entering the world of block printing, I (and I'm sure all the lurkers out there as well as old hands at this) would benefit from some discussion about the success or non-successful execution of a print. Why does this work? How in the world did they get that effect? Why doesn't this work (too many layers muddy the color?
I've scoured Mr. Bull's web site, with all the wonderful information there. So would it be possible to take this to the next level and have some of the more knowledgeable folks out there post a picture of a print and start a discussion about it? Just a thought.
Cheers.
Vlad
As I've gone through many of the old Baren posts I noticed that one topic hasn't really been addressed: that of opinions on the works of Woodblock artists.
I taught myself to paint (oils/acrylics) not by taking classes but by
reading books which just took a look at old master's works, and pointed
out what they did to make the painting work. But with printmaking,
the process itself is as intricate and important as the idea and
creation of the image....and is one of the reasons I'm a printmaker.
If it's possible to get so much emotion cooking with regards to the print exchange, I reckon we might be able to get the same passions fired up with regards to prints done by those who preceded us. I can look at etchings and aquatints and see what someone did (and how well they did it), and discuss the merits or lack thereof with another person who etches.
But as someone who is just entering the world of block printing, I (and I'm sure all the lurkers out there as well as old hands at this) would benefit from some discussion about the success or non-successful execution of a print. Why does this work? How in the world did they get that effect? Why doesn't this work (too many layers muddy the color?
I've scoured Mr. Bull's web site, with all the wonderful information there. So would it be possible to take this to the next level and have some of the more knowledgeable folks out there post a picture of a print and start a discussion about it? Just a thought.
Cheers.
Vlad
Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33473] Re: Print Analysis
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Vlad,
We cannot post photos to the list, but we do have a place on Baren to post them or can send folkes to a url to see an image. I think we have actually discussed artists who influenced us quite a bit, but not from an individual work. I suggest we start with this one
https://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/arts/sotonartgallery/search/view-artwork.asp?acc_num=2/1990
Gertrude Hermes was an English artist, a student of Blair Hughes Stanton..some biographical info is here
http://collection.britishcouncil.org/html/artist/artist.aspx?id=17621
As soon as I saw this particular piece of work, I knew she was a master of her craft and an amazing artist.
There is such a great variety of marks here and the energy of the work is breath taking. She has managed to convey the great power and mystery of totally inanimate objects...I think it is one of the most powerful prints I have ever seen. Not everyone will agree, I am sure. But I was just overwhelmed with this piece. I have since hunted other works of hers but nothing else she has done captivated me like this piece. She did a lot of commercial work, but I have a feeling this one was something she did for herself.
My best to all,
Barbara
We cannot post photos to the list, but we do have a place on Baren to post them or can send folkes to a url to see an image. I think we have actually discussed artists who influenced us quite a bit, but not from an individual work. I suggest we start with this one
https://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/arts/sotonartgallery/search/view-artwork.asp?acc_num=2/1990
Gertrude Hermes was an English artist, a student of Blair Hughes Stanton..some biographical info is here
http://collection.britishcouncil.org/html/artist/artist.aspx?id=17621
As soon as I saw this particular piece of work, I knew she was a master of her craft and an amazing artist.
There is such a great variety of marks here and the energy of the work is breath taking. She has managed to convey the great power and mystery of totally inanimate objects...I think it is one of the most powerful prints I have ever seen. Not everyone will agree, I am sure. But I was just overwhelmed with this piece. I have since hunted other works of hers but nothing else she has done captivated me like this piece. She did a lot of commercial work, but I have a feeling this one was something she did for herself.
My best to all,
Barbara
Message 3
From: slinders # comcast.net
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Baren 33474] Re: Print Analysis
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Hi, Everyone!
Barbara, you have the chance to see an exhibit, "Käthe Kollwitz
Prints: Defending the Downtrodden", through May 27, 2007, at
the Portland Museum of Art!
Käthe Kollwitz was a master of the 'least mark, most impact'!
There is nothing extra in her work. She used only what was
necessary for the visual impact...and her work is nothing if not
visceral visual impact!
Some of her work can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/q8k3z
A print to which I return time after time at the Art Institute
here in Chicago is "Memorial Sheet to Karl Liebknecht. 1919."
http://www.angelfire.com/art/favoritewomenartists/kollwitz.htm
http://www.arthist.umn.edu/classes/AH3422_5422/kollwitz_reduced.pdf
(scroll 3/4 of the way down for a better image of this print.)
It is a large print (14 13/16 x 20 3/16 in. (37.62 x 51.28 cm))
It is a primer for relief printmakers!
One of our students saw it on our last trip to the Print Study
Room, and just stalled out. While our group discussed other
prints that were available to us he simply stood studying this
print. I knew just how he felt, because it stops me in my
tracks, also! She was a master of printmaking, and her relief
work is eloquent and purposeful.
Best wishes,
Sharen
Barbara, you have the chance to see an exhibit, "Käthe Kollwitz
Prints: Defending the Downtrodden", through May 27, 2007, at
the Portland Museum of Art!
Käthe Kollwitz was a master of the 'least mark, most impact'!
There is nothing extra in her work. She used only what was
necessary for the visual impact...and her work is nothing if not
visceral visual impact!
Some of her work can be found here:
http://tinyurl.com/q8k3z
A print to which I return time after time at the Art Institute
here in Chicago is "Memorial Sheet to Karl Liebknecht. 1919."
http://www.angelfire.com/art/favoritewomenartists/kollwitz.htm
http://www.arthist.umn.edu/classes/AH3422_5422/kollwitz_reduced.pdf
(scroll 3/4 of the way down for a better image of this print.)
It is a large print (14 13/16 x 20 3/16 in. (37.62 x 51.28 cm))
It is a primer for relief printmakers!
One of our students saw it on our last trip to the Print Study
Room, and just stalled out. While our group discussed other
prints that were available to us he simply stood studying this
print. I knew just how he felt, because it stops me in my
tracks, also! She was a master of printmaking, and her relief
work is eloquent and purposeful.
Best wishes,
Sharen
Message 4
From: "Barbara Carr"
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 11:01:08 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33475] Re: Print Analysis
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Thanks for the reminder. I knew this show was at the Portland, but
time has just slipped by. It's going to be a rainy weekend, so maybe
it's time. Kollwitz was one of my favorites back in art school, along
with van Gogh. All that drama and angst, I guess. Thanks for the link,
too; I'd never seen that beautiful young self-portrait before.
Barbara C
time has just slipped by. It's going to be a rainy weekend, so maybe
it's time. Kollwitz was one of my favorites back in art school, along
with van Gogh. All that drama and angst, I guess. Thanks for the link,
too; I'd never seen that beautiful young self-portrait before.
Barbara C
Message 5
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 33476] Re: Print Analysis
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"But as someone who is just entering the world of block printing, I (and
I'm sure all the lurkers out there as well as old hands at this) would
benefit from some discussion about the success or non-successful execution
of a print. Why does this work? How in the world did they get that
effect? Why doesn't this work (too many layers muddy the color? "
Victor...the Baren exchange pages online have an entry form so that people
looking at images from past exchanges can comment on the prints... the
comments I believe only go back to the artist.....unfortunately not many
of us use this process to contribute comments after an exchange is
received...almost always when I get one of these is of a positive nature
and I don't get feedback on how to improve....overall I think our list in
the past has been someone timid when it comes to discussing our own works
for fear of flaming or hurt feelings....discussion on 'outsiders' has
always been sporadic (like the long discussion thread we had on 'The
Scream" by Edvard Munch or critique on some of Helen Frankenthaler's
work).
Check the link below after selecting an artist you will see under the
image an entry form to send comments.
http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_22/exchange_frame.html
What I am finding out is that the personal blogs and websites are a very
good place to learn about how the artists are creating their works.
It seems that within the 'privacy' of the personal blogs most people feel
very comfortable writing about and discussing the whys & hows of their
creative process....take for example any of the printmaking blogs that we
track daily...you will see some discussion there.... here are
some examples:
http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
thanks...Julio
I'm sure all the lurkers out there as well as old hands at this) would
benefit from some discussion about the success or non-successful execution
of a print. Why does this work? How in the world did they get that
effect? Why doesn't this work (too many layers muddy the color? "
Victor...the Baren exchange pages online have an entry form so that people
looking at images from past exchanges can comment on the prints... the
comments I believe only go back to the artist.....unfortunately not many
of us use this process to contribute comments after an exchange is
received...almost always when I get one of these is of a positive nature
and I don't get feedback on how to improve....overall I think our list in
the past has been someone timid when it comes to discussing our own works
for fear of flaming or hurt feelings....discussion on 'outsiders' has
always been sporadic (like the long discussion thread we had on 'The
Scream" by Edvard Munch or critique on some of Helen Frankenthaler's
work).
Check the link below after selecting an artist you will see under the
image an entry form to send comments.
http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_22/exchange_frame.html
What I am finding out is that the personal blogs and websites are a very
good place to learn about how the artists are creating their works.
It seems that within the 'privacy' of the personal blogs most people feel
very comfortable writing about and discussing the whys & hows of their
creative process....take for example any of the printmaking blogs that we
track daily...you will see some discussion there.... here are
some examples:
http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
thanks...Julio
Message 6
From: Blog Manager
Date: 19 May 2007 03:55:31 -0000
Subject: [Baren 33477] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (33 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock RoundTable
Author: Dave Bull
Item: My Solitudes project ... Mystery pattern ...
http://woodblock.com/roundtable/archives/2007/05/my_solitudes_pr_2.html
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Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art
Author: m.Lee
Item: Selling out? Everybody is doing it!
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2007/05/selling-out-everybody-is-doing-it.html
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Site Name: Bea Gold Retrospective
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: More Pictures ...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-pictures-at-party.html
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: April 13th, the day before my Birth...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/04/april-13th-day-before-my-birthday-party.html
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: ...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/05/dancing-dancing-dancing.html
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
http://phare-camp.blogspot.com
http://amymstoner.blogspot.com
http://williamleeholtfineart.blogspot.com
http://web.mac.com/g_wohlken/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html
http://curiousmatthew.blogspot.com
http://laine.lainegreenway.com/index.html
http://azuregrackle.com/blogs/index.php?blog=2
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
http://www.jauntyrakes.blogspot.com
http://sheiko.blogspot.com
http://studio-window.blogspot.com
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (33 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)
*****************
Site Name: Woodblock RoundTable
Author: Dave Bull
Item: My Solitudes project ... Mystery pattern ...
http://woodblock.com/roundtable/archives/2007/05/my_solitudes_pr_2.html
*****************
Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art
Author: m.Lee
Item: Selling out? Everybody is doing it!
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2007/05/selling-out-everybody-is-doing-it.html
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Site Name: Bea Gold Retrospective
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: More Pictures ...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/05/more-pictures-at-party.html
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: April 13th, the day before my Birth...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/04/april-13th-day-before-my-birthday-party.html
Author: Bea Gold's Blog
Item: ...
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com/2007/05/dancing-dancing-dancing.html
*****************
[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
http://barenforum.org/contact_baren.php
For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
http://barenforum.org/blog
http://woodblock.com
http://woodblock.com/roundtable
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com
http://phare-camp.blogspot.com
http://amymstoner.blogspot.com
http://williamleeholtfineart.blogspot.com
http://web.mac.com/g_wohlken/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html
http://curiousmatthew.blogspot.com
http://laine.lainegreenway.com/index.html
http://azuregrackle.com/blogs/index.php?blog=2
http://blog.olansa.co.uk/
http://bea-gold-retrospective.blogspot.com
http://www.jauntyrakes.blogspot.com
http://sheiko.blogspot.com
http://studio-window.blogspot.com