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Message 1
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:10:16 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31921] The Incredible Stretching Hanshita
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Mike wrote....
>4. Position the sheet over the block with the toner facing out. Wipe
>the sheet flat using very light pressure with the heel of your palm to
>prevent bubbles - AS THE PAPER ABSORBS WATER FROM THE PASTE BE CAREFUL NOT
>TO STRETCH IT (but it tends NOT to stretch or buckle anyway)

The problem I'm having is that as my prints (and so my hanshita) get larger
I'm finding it very difficult to prevent the stretching. Maybe too much
paste? Maybe not fast enough with putting the paper down onto the paste?
Maybe rubbing too hard? At any rate, the stretching is why I thought it
might be better for me to use acetate or mylar for my hanshita -- for its
non-stretching properties.

Thanks to everyone for the great tips. I feel like I've got enough hanshita
info to fuel several months of experimentation.

Annie

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Message 2
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:10:07 EDT
Subject: [Baren 31922] Re: hanshita
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Acetone is the main ingredient in nail polish remover, but I never tried it
to transfer.

While on the subject, does anyone know about Light Jet Laser print. I was
amazed to see such a print on photographic paper from a scan of the original
transparency selling for $1,650 .Perhaps because it was signed by a famous
sports person or maybe the photographer was famous too.?


Carol Lyons

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Message 3
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:16:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31923] Re: Baren Digest (old) V36 #3641
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Murilo, I also enjoyed your prints. You have a gift for the human
portrait. I saw the piece on paper and also thought it was very strong.
Goodd work thanks for sharing.
Marilynn

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Message 4
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 10:19:25 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31924] Re: hanshita
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|I've wondered about scanning and printing onto fairly non-absorbent
|paper using an inkjet, then transferring that immediately using a baren.
|I've had inkjet prints that took a while to dry, so there must have been
|wet ink hanging around for a while.
|
|Just a thought.
|
|David H

Hi, David -- I experimented with ink-jet transfers quite a bit in the early
to mid 1990's -- but my approach was a bit different than the one you
describe (which might not work so well, I'm guessing).

I found that certain inkjet inks were water soluble and others were not (HP
was not, but Canon was, for example) -- this method won't work at all for
inks which don't run when they get wet -- this is very easy to test!

I transferred inkjet prints to both paper and woodblocks with good results
by placing the block face-up on a press bed (baren might work, too, but I
never tried it), then the inkjet print, ink side down on the block, then a
thin blotter paper dampened with water (damp, not saturated!), then plastic
to prevent my blankets from getting wet, then the blankets and ran it
through the press using very light pressure. The water from the blotter
migrates through the inkjet print and into the block, carrying some of the
ink with it. Very sharp and clear transfers are easy to obtain this way!

You can view an example (never before seen by anyone but me!) of one of my
paper transfers at http://mlyon.com/images/1995_four_composite_sarahs.jpg
(about 10 x 21 inches transferred as above from six inkjet prints onto BFK
paper in early 1995)

-- Mike

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
http://mlyon.com

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Message 5
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:20:16 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31925] Acetone hazards
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http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ipcsneng/neng0087.html
Check out the effects of long term exposure - blood and bone marrow effects. While acetone is certainly not as toxic as many other chemicals it certainly deserves respect! And any thing that causes confusion and disorientation is having a neurological effect, it's just a matter of whether there are any permanent damage.
Lee.

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Message 6
From: Cstreetstudios # aol.com
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:21:46 EDT
Subject: [Baren 31926] Re: New Baren Digest (Text)  V36 #3638 (Sep 27, 2006)
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Hi
Can anyone elaborate on the scam that was listed?
How did they know it was a scam? Did they try to cash the check?
thanks
ps - that really stinks.



Small Business Web & Print Design
C Street Studios
Jennifer Ressmann
cstreetstudios#aol.com
www.cstreetstudios.com
Golden Colorado 80403

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Message 7
From: David Harrison
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:36:30 +0100
Subject: [Baren 31927] Re: hanshita
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Mike Lyon wrote:

> Hi, David -- I experimented with ink-jet transfers quite a bit in the early
> to mid 1990's... (see previous digest for full text of Mike's message)

Hi Mike,

Thanks, that's very useful to know.

Now I'm off to the workshop to see if that'll work with Epson inks!

cheers,

David

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Message 8
From: David Harrison
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:58:03 +0100
Subject: [Baren 31928] Re: hanshita
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> Now I'm off to the workshop to see if that'll work with Epson inks!
>
> cheers,
>
> David

Short answer: apparently not. Epson's site says their proprietary
"Durabrite" inks are waterfast. I'll have a go with some "compatibles"
instead...

A damn shame that Epson have overlooked the "transferring things to wood
blocks" market :-)

cheers,

David

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Message 9
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:21:57 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31929] Re: hanshita
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David and Annie one more for you!, even easier than Mike's method and not
requiring a press is to print your key onto transparency sheets. Remember
those? Used to be used for presentations with over-head projectors before
the PowerPoint age?

This method does take some care as the printed sheet is quite smear prone.
Also it is limited to the standard available 8.5x11", although I have broken
up an image in three parts and transferred without problems.

Anyhow, the secret is, use transparency sheets made for laser printers.
Print with a standard ink jet printer set at normal or draft quality as
printing with high quality settings will put way too much ink on the sheet.
Your ink will remain quite wet and smear easily so handle with care.
Take your freshly printed transparency to the block and simply lay it down
printed side down of course. You can apply very little pressure and obtain a
great instant transfer. I have actually transferred black and white
photographs in full detail with this method. No solvents, no paste, no wet
stuff, no press.

Maria


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com

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Message 10
From: David Harrison
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:30:08 +0100
Subject: [Baren 31930] Re: hanshita
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That's a great idea. I think I actually have some of those sheets lying
about waiting to become useful again.

Another method to try out this evening, once our new cat lets up his
relentless cute-trick barrage :-)

cheers,

David

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Message 11
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:44:07 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31931] RE: artist scams
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I don't want to elaborate much on this topic since it is a bit off topic but
this does affect all artists on the web.

But! I get these all the time and some are quite sophisticated. Since I also
get legitimate commissions and orders online from people that do not want to
use the shopping cart for some reason, I have finally developed a simple
method to weed out the nasty folk.
When you reply to requests for prices, shipping quotes, commission quotes or
whatever, simply use the Cc field on your email program and Cc one other
person (I use my husband) and, very important, my "Legal Department" (LEGAL
[at] 1000woodcuts [dot] com). I actually have that email address set up to
receive mail, but you wouldn't really have to.
Miracle of miracles, all but the legitimate contenders mysteriously
disappear. Oh, and none of the legitimate collectors ever mentioned the
cc'ing to my "legal department."

Maria


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com

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Message 12
From: "phare-camp # imp-s.com"
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:58:55 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31932] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V36 #3637 (Sep 27, 2006)
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"see my photo and a show I did on the street..."

Murilo: I love these works. They make me think of the German
Expressionists, Kandinsky comes to mind. How fun, street art!

Patti P-C

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Message 13
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:18:15 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31933] Re: hanshita
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David,
I've never had any luck transferring inkjet prints and I've tried
printing onto acetate, transparency, paper, vellum, you name it I've
tried it, and moving as quickly as humanly possible I could never get a
good transfer. If you figure it out, bless you, and I can hardly wait
to hear what works!

Next time I am going to try acetone on a laser copy. How dangerous can
it be if they make nail polish remover out of the stuff? They (the
toxic-carcinogen experts) say that one of the areas of our bodies at
which carcinogen substances enter our bloodstream the fastest is around
the cuticle of the nail, therefore I would assume (which usually gets
me into quick trouble) that acetone must be very safe to use. Anyway,
that is for next time. Meanwhile, my iron works best and that is my
story and I'm sticking with it. :-)

Thanks to Mike and Charles for the explanations of the laser copy
stuff, but Mike, please stop pulling your hair out. LOL

Happy printing,
Sharri

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Message 14
From: Sharon Van Ruiswyk
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:31:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31934] Re: hanshita
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I have had luck transferring images and text to wood using the Blender pens
for Felt tip pen art. ( Not the Prismacolor brand though)
I have used it to put the titles on wooden covered Coptic bound books
( have to reverse the text to be readable)

Keeps your hands out of the chemicals but you still need good ventilation

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Message 15
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:38:57 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31935] Re: hanshita
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One more thought on transferring prints from ink jet printers: I am
not sure that the water-fast inks are acrylic based, but it is a good
hypothesis. While acrylic will not "re-wet" with water, ammonia will
sure take it off any surface.

Soooo ... get some ammonia ... get the non-sudsy kind from the
hardware store, not the stuff with soap in it usually found in
grocery stores. Put your ink jet print face down on your block and
rub the back of it quite hard with a cotton ball soaked in ammonia,
just to see if it will transfer. Personally, I detest the smell of
ammonia ... do this outside or with very good ventilation. If it
seems to work, then to do a real transfer, you might do better to wet
a fairly absorbent paper, like BFK Rives or blotting paper, and place
that on the back of the print, print face down on the block, and run
it through a press.

Just a thought for a little experiment ... I do not have an ink jet
printer in the house so cannot try it myself.

Cheers ..... Charles

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Message 16
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:57:46 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31936] Re: hanshita
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Blender pens usually (always ???) contain Xylene. Check the MSDS for
Xylene and compare it to the MSDS for Acetone.

Xylene gets an NFPA rating for health of:

2 = MODERATE: Short term exposure may result in minor temporary or
permanent injury; may result in major injury.

Acetone gets an NFPA rating for health of:

1= SLIGHT: Short term exposure may result in minor injury that is reversible.

In general, acetone is considered to be less of a hazard than xylene.

Cheers .... Charles

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Message 17
From: David Harrison
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:13:39 +0100
Subject: [Baren 31937] Re: hanshita
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Xylene? Good grief. I had to use the stuff once to clean off epoxy on a
marine job. The stuff dissolved my gloves, gave me a killer headache and
blood-spots on my hands for a week after. Nasty substance!

cheers,

David

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Message 18
From: Blog Manager
Date: 29 Sep 2006 03:55:09 -0000
Subject: [Baren 31938] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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