Today's postings

  1. [Baren 31084] baren forum - attending and group exhibit (Enid Draigh)
  2. [Baren 31085] Question about water-based inks (Bobbi Chukran)
  3. [Baren 31086] Re: Question about water-based inks ("Robert Viana")
  4. [Baren 31087] mixing inks ("Jean Womack")
  5. [Baren 31088] Re: mixing inks (Charles Morgan)
  6. [Baren 31089] Re: baren forum - attending and group exhibit (Barbara Mason)
  7. [Baren 31090] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  8. [Baren 31091] RE: Question about water-based inks ("Robert")
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Message 1
From: Enid Draigh
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:10:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31084] baren forum - attending and group exhibit
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Sherri-

I would love to be a part of the show! Also, I have
not yet sent my check (forgot all about it, but will
do!)

Sorry to post this to the whole list, but my browser
won't let me reply to her individually. Gotta figure
out why that is the case. :(

Amy Stoner
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Message 2
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:18:33 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31085] Question about water-based inks
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Hi all!

I have a somewhat OT question, but figure somebody here can help me.

I want to print some of my woodcuts onto fabric......and want to use
water-based inks.

Question is, how to make them washable without using anything toxic??

I know there are water-based silkscreen inks...what's the difference
between the two kinds--what makes the silkscreen inks permanent?

Thanks....

Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com
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Message 3
From: "Robert Viana"
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:44:14 -0200
Subject: [Baren 31086] Re: Question about water-based inks
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Jaquard also makes fabric inks. Non-toxic.
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Message 4
From: "Jean Womack"
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:26:56 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31087] mixing inks
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[Baren] Daily DigestCharles, thanks profusely for your description of mixing inks and the run down on alcohol. Around here they talk about "methanol," which I have been told is also alcohol. Used for fuel to run cars? Or is that some kind of code talk? What's your take on methanol?

Also, does burnt plate oil figure into your equation for mixing oil based inks? I watched a demo where John Ihle mixed pigments and burnt plate oil with a muller. It doesn't sound like what you have been doing. However, your idea to mix pigments right into the extender really does make sense.

Jean Womack
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Message 5
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:01:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31088] Re: mixing inks
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Hello Jean,

Methanol is sometimes known as wood alcohol. It is an alcohol, but is
chemically different from ethanol and from isopropyl alcohol. Methanol has
some very toxic effects that neither ethanol nor isopropyl alcohol possess.
In particular, I believe methanol is carcinogenic with prolonged skin
contact or inhalation of fumes. Most luthiers (folks that build musical
instruments) now restrict themselves to ethanol when they make shellac
finishes for instruments ... the reasons are based on health concerns.
Personally, I would avoid methanol.

I have not personally used burnt plate oil to make inks. I am only willing
to go so far along the "do it yourself" road. I think ink consistency is
more touchy than paint consistency. You can apply almost any "paint" with a
brush. But if the consistency is not just right, you cannot roll the ink
out and apply it smoothly. Ink manufacturers have perfectly fine products
in terms of the ink base that they have formulated. My main complaints
concern pigment availability and pigment density. So, I am happy to use
their ink mediums and just mix in my own pigments.

I have seen discussions in my various books about using a muller to mix
your own inks and paints. In some cases, this was done to more finely
pulverize the pigments and also to ensure good mixing. I have not had any
problems just using a plastic spatula to mix my inks from dispersions. And
the pigments in Guerra dispersions are more finely ground than dry
pigments. I believe their pigment dispersions are made by tumbling powdered
pigments with the dispersion liquid in a container full of ball bearings.
The tumbling with ball bearings really grinds the pigments.

I would use burnt plate oil to adjust the thickness of the ink, but
personally I would not bother trying to formulate my own ink starting with
burnt plate oil. But who knows ... you might enjoy it yourself.

Cheers ...... Charles
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Message 6
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:02:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31089] Re: baren forum - attending and group exhibit
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Anyone who wants to participate and is out of the USA can send work to me in a tube or flat envelope and I will frame it for you...you will owe me big time!
Actually, I get all my framing stuff wholesale and after being an artist for about 40 years have a LOT of stuff here.
Best to all,
Barbara
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Message 7
From: Blog Manager
Date: 16 Jun 2006 03:55:05 -0000
Subject: [Baren 31090] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (21 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)

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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams

Author: Annie B
Item: Goggles
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/06/goggles.html

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Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art

Author: m.Lee
Item: New Batch
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/06/new-batch.html

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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
http://barenforum.org/contact_baren.php

For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
http://barenforum.org/blog
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http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com
http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://perfect-press.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
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http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
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Message 8
From: "Robert"
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:15:00 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31091] RE: Question about water-based inks
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Go to golden paints and look up fabric. They have a couple of products that
you may use for printing on fabric. Heat set and normal dry. Heat set is
best,
http://www.goldenpaints.com/