Today's postings
- [Baren 30489] Re: Julio on causes and escapism/Who's afraid of the Woodbl... (ArtfulCarol # aol.com)
- [Baren 30490] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo (Amy Greenan)
- [Baren 30491] Re: Maria's Studio (Jan Telfer)
- [Baren 30492] Printing Postcards (AEleen Frisch)
- [Baren 30493] RE: Printing Postcards, studio, proofing cairn ("Maria Arango")
- [Baren 30494] Re: Printing Postcards (Charles Morgan)
- [Baren 30495] Re: Julio on causes and escapism/Who's afraid of the Woodbl... (L Cass)
- [Baren 30496] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo (Kris Shanks)
- [Baren 30497] post cards & etc. (FurryPressII # aol.com)
- [Baren 30498] Re: Overprinting with white (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 30499] Re: post cards & etc. (Charles Morgan)
- [Baren 30500] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
- [Baren 30501] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
Message 1
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:43:17 EST
Subject: [Baren 30489] Re: Julio on causes and escapism/Who's afraid of the Woodbl...
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Totally agree with you!
This is just what I wrote to Angee. I didn't want to waste time talking
about this but here I am doing it.!
What I think:
This whole political discussion is not about hurting people's feelings. We
are not 12 year-olds. It is about divisiveness and cohesiveness.
Political images are usually controversial and open to much interpretation
which cannot be adequately discussed on the computer.
Those who want to do any private exchange are free to do so.
Carol Lyons
This is just what I wrote to Angee. I didn't want to waste time talking
about this but here I am doing it.!
What I think:
This whole political discussion is not about hurting people's feelings. We
are not 12 year-olds. It is about divisiveness and cohesiveness.
Political images are usually controversial and open to much interpretation
which cannot be adequately discussed on the computer.
Those who want to do any private exchange are free to do so.
Carol Lyons
Message 2
From: Amy Greenan
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:02:54 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30490] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo
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Hi everyone,
New member, first time poster here! *waves*
Just something short for now, but I saw that Endi Poskovic came up in
conversation. He is an alumnus of my school, University at Buffalo,
where I am currently in the grad art program. He made a visit recently,
did presentations, and also worked with us students in producing some
prints! It was great to see his process.
I took quite a few photos that you may be interested in seeing. I've
posted them on my Flickr page, here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/agreenan/sets/72057594079851570/
Please feel free to ask any questions!
I will post a proper intro soon. :)
Love the list so far!
Amy Greenan
New member, first time poster here! *waves*
Just something short for now, but I saw that Endi Poskovic came up in
conversation. He is an alumnus of my school, University at Buffalo,
where I am currently in the grad art program. He made a visit recently,
did presentations, and also worked with us students in producing some
prints! It was great to see his process.
I took quite a few photos that you may be interested in seeing. I've
posted them on my Flickr page, here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/agreenan/sets/72057594079851570/
Please feel free to ask any questions!
I will post a proper intro soon. :)
Love the list so far!
Amy Greenan
Message 3
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:23:48 +0800
Subject: [Baren 30491] Re: Maria's Studio
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Maria wrote:
After 6 years I finally finished my studio tour page on the website;
nothing
big...which is why I kept putting it off!
Here is the page:
http://1000woodcuts.com/studio/insidestudio.html
This is a palace!!! Thank you for sharing this with us..... in my
print area at the back room behind the garage I haven't even got room
"to swing a cat"...just enough room to squeeze between printing table
and other table but have also taken over my younger daughter's bedroom
now that she has moved...... but with visitors coming have to hide all
my art work and clear the bed!!!
Lovely Maria,
Jan
After 6 years I finally finished my studio tour page on the website;
nothing
big...which is why I kept putting it off!
Here is the page:
http://1000woodcuts.com/studio/insidestudio.html
This is a palace!!! Thank you for sharing this with us..... in my
print area at the back room behind the garage I haven't even got room
"to swing a cat"...just enough room to squeeze between printing table
and other table but have also taken over my younger daughter's bedroom
now that she has moved...... but with visitors coming have to hide all
my art work and clear the bed!!!
Lovely Maria,
Jan
Message 4
From: AEleen Frisch
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:29:42 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30492] Printing Postcards
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Has anyone printed postcards designed to actually be mailed? If so, what
sort of paper did you use? Thanks.
AEleen Frisch
aefrisch#lorentzian.com
sort of paper did you use? Thanks.
AEleen Frisch
aefrisch#lorentzian.com
Message 5
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:59:07 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30493] RE: Printing Postcards, studio, proofing cairn
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Either Stonehenge or Graphic Chemical general purpose printmaking are sturdy
enough for mailing. You can get them through Graph Chem themselves.
There are many others, though, just look for heavy papers, I'd say 120gm at
least.
The Cairn can be proofed. I had a silly rule last time only because the
block looks so much better when it's clean. Also, if you can refrain from
proofing it makes it easier for me to see potential problems in printing
such as delicate lines, large uncarved areas, bumps etc. But proof away if
you must!
Jan, I tried swinging a cat in the studio but they run! Darned things are
quick and feisty, too...just kidding everyone! I loved that comment.
Festival update: today we play the waiting game. We wait for check in time,
we find out our spots, we wait for the street to be closed, we wait to be
let in...then we finally get to work in building our tented galleries.
Patience.
Maria
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
enough for mailing. You can get them through Graph Chem themselves.
There are many others, though, just look for heavy papers, I'd say 120gm at
least.
The Cairn can be proofed. I had a silly rule last time only because the
block looks so much better when it's clean. Also, if you can refrain from
proofing it makes it easier for me to see potential problems in printing
such as delicate lines, large uncarved areas, bumps etc. But proof away if
you must!
Jan, I tried swinging a cat in the studio but they run! Darned things are
quick and feisty, too...just kidding everyone! I loved that comment.
Festival update: today we play the waiting game. We wait for check in time,
we find out our spots, we wait for the street to be closed, we wait to be
let in...then we finally get to work in building our tented galleries.
Patience.
Maria
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Message 6
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:27:25 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30494] Re: Printing Postcards
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>Has anyone printed postcards designed to actually be mailed? If so, what
>sort of paper did you use? Thanks.
I have done this quite a few times. For digital laser prints, I have just
used acid-free card stock and sent it through the mail. I have also printed
oily wood block on acid-free card stock and sent it through the mail.
However, at the size 4x6 inches, it does seem a bit thin.
My other method for laser prints is to print the card and address on one
piece of card stock, arranged so that when it is folded in half, the
address is in the right position. (I use Adobe Illustrator for this) Then I
fold the thing, glue it together, and put it under pressure until it is
pretty dry. After a day or so I hang the laminated cards in the open air to
finish drying, and then trim to size.
I have also printed etchings and wood block on BFK Rives and let them dry.
Then I glue them onto pre-printed acid-free card stock, and place under
pressure until pretty dry. Then hang in open air for a final drying and
trim to size.
These laminated cards are VERY robust.
There are lots of glues on the market, but try to use a good quality glue
or your cards will come apart. For gluing, I use rice paste. There are lots
of recipes. This is how I do it. Put about 1/2 cup of white rice in a sauce
pan, along with 2 cups of water. Bring it to a boil and simmer it for about
1/2 hour ... do not let it get dry ... if you can't see water at the
surface of the rice, add more water ... you want it pretty soupy. After 1/2
hour, take the glop and dump it in a blender, and blend at highest speed
until it is creamy. If you smear it between your fingers, it should feel
perfectly smooth. Add more water if it is too thick for your blender. Put
it in a jar in the fridge, and it will keep for months ... yep, it will
keep for months. If water separates, just pour it off. You may get a little
mold on the top, but just scoop the mold off with a spoon. The stuff will
set up like jello in the fridge. To use it, just put some in a bowl and
microwave it for about 20-30 seconds, and it will go back to creamy
consistency. If it is too thick after warming it, just add a little water
to thin it. If it starts to smell bad or get discolored, throw it out and
make some more. Rice paste is archival.
Your laminated cards will probably get a bit of curl when fully dry. You
can put them under pressure for a while or carefully bend/roll them by hand
to remove the curl.
As an alternative, you could just use glassine envelopes instead of sending
things as bare cards, and not bother with the gluing process.
Cheers ..... Charles
>sort of paper did you use? Thanks.
I have done this quite a few times. For digital laser prints, I have just
used acid-free card stock and sent it through the mail. I have also printed
oily wood block on acid-free card stock and sent it through the mail.
However, at the size 4x6 inches, it does seem a bit thin.
My other method for laser prints is to print the card and address on one
piece of card stock, arranged so that when it is folded in half, the
address is in the right position. (I use Adobe Illustrator for this) Then I
fold the thing, glue it together, and put it under pressure until it is
pretty dry. After a day or so I hang the laminated cards in the open air to
finish drying, and then trim to size.
I have also printed etchings and wood block on BFK Rives and let them dry.
Then I glue them onto pre-printed acid-free card stock, and place under
pressure until pretty dry. Then hang in open air for a final drying and
trim to size.
These laminated cards are VERY robust.
There are lots of glues on the market, but try to use a good quality glue
or your cards will come apart. For gluing, I use rice paste. There are lots
of recipes. This is how I do it. Put about 1/2 cup of white rice in a sauce
pan, along with 2 cups of water. Bring it to a boil and simmer it for about
1/2 hour ... do not let it get dry ... if you can't see water at the
surface of the rice, add more water ... you want it pretty soupy. After 1/2
hour, take the glop and dump it in a blender, and blend at highest speed
until it is creamy. If you smear it between your fingers, it should feel
perfectly smooth. Add more water if it is too thick for your blender. Put
it in a jar in the fridge, and it will keep for months ... yep, it will
keep for months. If water separates, just pour it off. You may get a little
mold on the top, but just scoop the mold off with a spoon. The stuff will
set up like jello in the fridge. To use it, just put some in a bowl and
microwave it for about 20-30 seconds, and it will go back to creamy
consistency. If it is too thick after warming it, just add a little water
to thin it. If it starts to smell bad or get discolored, throw it out and
make some more. Rice paste is archival.
Your laminated cards will probably get a bit of curl when fully dry. You
can put them under pressure for a while or carefully bend/roll them by hand
to remove the curl.
As an alternative, you could just use glassine envelopes instead of sending
things as bare cards, and not bother with the gluing process.
Cheers ..... Charles
Message 7
From: L Cass
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:42:42 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30495] Re: Julio on causes and escapism/Who's afraid of the Woodbl...
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Carol - a quick reply in praise of your letter below - it's tricky enough
to have political discussions 'tète à tète'
let alone putting words in print - one has to know who one is talking with
before sending statements out into the
world for all to see. Quite apart from anything else things can be
misinterpreted which causes a war of words -
I think this is, in a sense, what happened with the Danish cartoons - two
worlds with different beliefs and conventions
clashing!
Louise Cass
Message 8
From: Kris Shanks
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:43:35 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30496] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo
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Welcome to the list, and thanks for sharing those photos of Endi
Poskovic at work! I'd been looking at his prints trying to
deconstruct his process, and making no headway, so it was really cool
to see the different stages of his print. My dog was looking at me
funny as I kept mumbling "wow, wow" under my breath while looking at
the photos.
Kris
www.shanksart.com
Poskovic at work! I'd been looking at his prints trying to
deconstruct his process, and making no headway, so it was really cool
to see the different stages of his print. My dog was looking at me
funny as I kept mumbling "wow, wow" under my breath while looking at
the photos.
Kris
www.shanksart.com
Message 9
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:22:02 EST
Subject: [Baren 30497] post cards & etc.
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I have printed a number of things for mail art.
If your are printing on a press card stock and or post cards (the kind the
post office sells with the stamp printed on already) I think 4 + 6 inch's is
the largest size that goes at post card rate. Larger and you have to pay
first class rate.
Gluing a print onto card stock and mailing it is not a good idea however
good a glue you use the post office machines seem to be able to take it apart.
Which is something I learned in the 'year of the goat' mailing lots of
my 'old goats' did not make it.
Maria on the subject of swinging cats. Not a good idea if you wish to
remain 'imperforate' as my cat would try to alter my looks if I tried to swing
her. Cats were 'demi-gods' in Egypt and they have not forgotten. One
must respect there wishes and understand who is the boss. Now if you want to
swing quadrupeds get a small canine (larger than a foot ball) if you want to
consider it a dog instead of some rat like creature.
john c.
If your are printing on a press card stock and or post cards (the kind the
post office sells with the stamp printed on already) I think 4 + 6 inch's is
the largest size that goes at post card rate. Larger and you have to pay
first class rate.
Gluing a print onto card stock and mailing it is not a good idea however
good a glue you use the post office machines seem to be able to take it apart.
Which is something I learned in the 'year of the goat' mailing lots of
my 'old goats' did not make it.
Maria on the subject of swinging cats. Not a good idea if you wish to
remain 'imperforate' as my cat would try to alter my looks if I tried to swing
her. Cats were 'demi-gods' in Egypt and they have not forgotten. One
must respect there wishes and understand who is the boss. Now if you want to
swing quadrupeds get a small canine (larger than a foot ball) if you want to
consider it a dog instead of some rat like creature.
john c.
Message 10
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:31:19 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30498] Re: Overprinting with white
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Yes, Annie, I have overprinted moku hanga with white pigment. I used
regular gouache and it worked just fine for what I was after. It was
opaque enough to cover, but still transparent enough to let a little of
the under colors show through. I wish I had a website up and running
so you could see what I mean, but alas, that was the New Years
resolution 4 years ago and waiting......
Sharri
regular gouache and it worked just fine for what I was after. It was
opaque enough to cover, but still transparent enough to let a little of
the under colors show through. I wish I had a website up and running
so you could see what I mean, but alas, that was the New Years
resolution 4 years ago and waiting......
Sharri
Message 11
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:44:45 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30499] Re: post cards & etc.
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>Gluing a print onto card stock and mailing it is not a good idea however
>good a glue you use the post office machines seem to be able to take it
>apart. Which is something I learned in the 'year of the goat'
>mailing lots of my 'old goats' did not make it.
Different experiences ... I have not had a card come apart yet, and I have
been mailing laminated cards for 3-4 years. Maybe John's problem was caused
in part by the oiliness of the inks ... glues do not like oil. Maybe the
problem was the glue. Maybe the problem was the pressure during lamination.
Cheers ... Charles
>good a glue you use the post office machines seem to be able to take it
>apart. Which is something I learned in the 'year of the goat'
>mailing lots of my 'old goats' did not make it.
Different experiences ... I have not had a card come apart yet, and I have
been mailing laminated cards for 3-4 years. Maybe John's problem was caused
in part by the oiliness of the inks ... glues do not like oil. Maybe the
problem was the glue. Maybe the problem was the pressure during lamination.
Cheers ... Charles
Message 12
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:04:14 -0600
Subject: [Baren 30500] Re: Woodcuts in Buffalo
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Hi Amy, welcome to Baren (more waves for Amy !!!!)
Thank you for posting the photos of Mr. Poskovic's process....very
interesting...looks like you guys were having lot of fun....I like the
idea of using 2-3 colors per block...do you recall what brand/type of ink
he used ? Did he elaborate on the print itself as far as theme or meaning
?
I also enjoyed looking at your other slide shows, you are a very talented
artist.
thanks...Julio
Thank you for posting the photos of Mr. Poskovic's process....very
interesting...looks like you guys were having lot of fun....I like the
idea of using 2-3 colors per block...do you recall what brand/type of ink
he used ? Did he elaborate on the print itself as far as theme or meaning
?
I also enjoyed looking at your other slide shows, you are a very talented
artist.
thanks...Julio
Message 13
From: Blog Manager
Date: 31 Mar 2006 04:55:05 -0000
Subject: [Baren 30501] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (16 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Final Serenity Prayer Print
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/03/final-serenity-prayer-print.html
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Site Name: m.Lee Prints
Author: m.Lee
Item: Another Portrait
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/03/another-portrait.html
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The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (16 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Final Serenity Prayer Print
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/03/final-serenity-prayer-print.html
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Site Name: m.Lee Prints
Author: m.Lee
Item: Another Portrait
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/03/another-portrait.html
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