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Message 1
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:00:18 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29238] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V33 #3257 (Nov 13, 2005)
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Robert:
Remember that you can also use methylcellulose instead of rice paste.
I prefer the MC because it is transparent, cheap, doesn't do nasty
things like mold, mildew, etc., and I can also put a little of it in
for sizing when I'm in papermaking mode. Although, I do keep it
refrigerated when I'm not using it and I live in a cool climate and
those things probably help. Did I mention that it is cheap? I mix a
quart at a time and it lasts a couple of years.

Cheers!
Sharri

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Message 2
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:02:30 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29239] Re: Baren 3255..rice flour
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Good luck with rice flour. All of the rice flour I have tried produced a
very grainy paste. What you really want is rice starch, but I have been
unable to find it locally ... not in Asian supermarkets nor in Chinatown.
You can order rice starch from one of the mailorder art suppliers. You
might try corn starch, or one of the other starches available at your local
health food store.

Cheers ...... Charles

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Message 3
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:03:28 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29240] New Year cards
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Somehow my monkeys have been goofing off
and my roosters have been cock-o-doodling around too much!
So I've been trying to rustle them up
to "Get the Show on the Road" to Baren members.
And now...my New Years dog prints will be begging
to earn your trust, for I will be shipping them out in January!

So paleease may I sign up for the 2006 New Years cards list?

Love you all,
Bette Wappner :)))
Kentucky

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Message 4
From: Jrlarimer # aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:23:06 EST
Subject: [Baren 29241] Gyotaku-Japaneese Fish Printing
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This may be very familiar to some _Gyotaku_
(http://www.ncoif.com/bogus/gyotaku/gyotaku.html) ..but to this land-locked Coloradoan it came as a surprise!
Maybe it would work with Elk, Deer or Bear. Trout is problematic, I learned,
because of its smooth texture. Jim

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Message 5
From: Jrlarimer # aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:49:45 EST
Subject: [Baren 29242] Re: Gyotaku-Japaneese Fish Printing
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This is an even better site._(page4a)Lori Hatch, fish prints, F.A.Q.,
gyotaku, nature prints, Japanese fish_ (http://www.lorihatch.com/page4a.html) ..I
want the Piranhas in Gallery 1. Jim

_LarimerArt_ (http://larimerart.blogspot.com/)

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Message 6
From: "robert"
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:37:49 +0000
Subject: [Baren 29243] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V33 #3257 (Nov 13, 2005)
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Thanks to you all for your answers on my rice starch search! I have something to share with you all. This may have been talked about before and may not be something new but it is new to me!
I went to a hardware store and bought something called TEKNOBOND powder. It was in the wall paper section. It didn't say "methyl cellulose" anywhere on it.
My results were really promising! It helped make the pigments lay smooth. I was using it the way you use the rice starch and I think it will sustain the pigments just fine. So far as I can tell, they are very stationary.
Again, this may be old hat, but I wanted to share what I stumbled upon. I pulled about 25 various prints and I believe that three are worth keeping. Still in trial and error phase.
Peace!
Rob

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Message 7
From: "Mindy Wilson"
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 05:45:44 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29244] Re: Gyotaku-Japaneese Fish Printing
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Oh, my goodness she has really done a fine job. Thanks so much for passing on the link.
Mindy Wilson

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