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Message 1
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:37:58 EST
Subject: [Baren 27558] pigments, Akua Kolor etc
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Hi folks. I have used Akua Kolor for hanga a bunch of times and found it to
my satisfaction, although I know a number of bareners disagree with me, so
perhaps it's a matter of personal taste. However, for blacks and for certain
earth tones I nearly always use the pure pigment dispersions from Guerra. I
definitely recommend the pigments dispersed in water which you can purchase
from Guerra over the powdered pigments, safer for you and easier to use.

best wishes
Sarah

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Message 2
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:56:52 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27559] wood engraving
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Hi everyone,
Connie Pierson from Spokane, WA here

I was wondering if someone could tell me if when you do a wood engraving does the ink go in the cut away lines like a metal engraving? Has anyone tried to print a wood engraving like an intaglio?
If so what were the results?

I also want to say congratulations and thanks to Bareners. It's great to read about the great opportunities for some and it's fun to check-out the links others put it their messages.

I don't post often but I read everyday :o) Thanks again!
Connie

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Message 3
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:02:14 EST
Subject: [Baren 27560] Re: Newest Print
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Congratulations!
Dan , as a minimalist I Love the last photo image most.
You must do what you must do, but just an idea--- how about making a
separate woodblock of just that image--beaufiful.! Block out all but that and print
to see what you think.
Carol L
Irvington,NY

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Message 4
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:01:41 EST
Subject: [Baren 27561] Re: Newest Print
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dan
this is a beautigul print
bravo
georga

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Message 5
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:07:22 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27562] Re: Baren Digest (old) V30 #3009
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Sharri wrote:
>most prefer the powdered pigments sold on the Baren mall, or through the
>place in NYC that April likes & which I can never remember the name (hers
>are dispersions).

That 'other' place is

Guerra Paint and Pigment
510 East 13th Street,
New York, NY 10009
USA
phone: 212-529-0628

No need to grind your own pigments (risking health problems associated with
fine airborne particles -- especially if toxic) -- Guerra's pigment
suspensions are highest quality and strength, very reasonably priced, and
come in over 100 wonderful colors -- GREAT stuff -- ideal for hanga and
ideal for painting and other printmaking, too!

-- Mike

PS and thanks so much for your WAY over the top kind comments -- you've
made me blush =-O

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 6
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:10:14 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27563] Re: Baren Digest (old) V30 #3009
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I wrote:

>Guerra Paint and Pigment
>510 East 13th Street,
>New York, NY 10009
>USA
>phone: 212-529-0628

And they now have a web-site! http://www.guerrapaint.com/intro.html

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 7
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:41:38 EST
Subject: [Baren 27564] Re: wood engraving
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Wood engravings are printed with oil based ink but they are printed like wood
cuts, not metal engravings. There are differences in the viscosity of the
ink between wood cuts and wood engravings. To get the best result when
printing wood engravings you should have the ink a bit stiffer than when you print
wood cuts and then apply it to the block in very thin layers building it up
to the right amount to print a rich black. The reason is so that you don't
fill in the details for which wood engraving is capable.

john c.

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Message 8
From: "Dan Dew"
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:53:30 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27565] Re: Newest Print
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Thanks!

I have thought of that in the past, just might do it now.

< d. dew

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Message 9
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:24:18 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27566] Re: akua Kolor
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Barbara Mason wrote:
>Mike,
>If you really hate Akua Kolor, send it all to me! I like it but have
>forced it to do what I want it to do. It is just like any other material,
>if you use it a while you get to know it's personality and how you can
>beat it into shape! I teach a lot and really like it for its ease of clean up.

Yeah, Barbara, I really do dislike it, and thanks for your offer... but
when my kids come down to the studio to 'make stuff', it's an easy thing to
give them for monotypes on my press (which they really enjoy making quite a
lot), so I have to hang onto it for them -- and, as you say, clean-up is
easier and less toxic than for oil-based stuff -- but I honestly dislike
the color quality, so never use it for my own work... I have the monotype
bottles and various tips as well...

The link you gave to your print at
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_22/mason.html illustrates some
of the reasons I don't like the stuff -- nice image, decent blocks, too bad
about that chalky, opaque color you chose -- this would have been a better
print (IMHO) if you'd used pigment suspension, or water color, or dry
pigment instead of akua kolor with which your pale washes just sorta die on
the paper (they look muted on my monitor as well)... No need for a press
for that paper and those little blocks, I don't think -- a baren would have
been much more efficient...

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:35:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 27567] Re: akua Kolor
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Mike,
Well, this may be true, fom the standpoint of a big guy 10 years younger than myself...6 colors x 50 prints = 300 impressions = one very tired Barbara....and I have the press that works like a charm. The real print looks better than the monitor image and you may be right that the colors are chalky....but I did tone them down and thin them out. I am sure it would have been more vibrant with watercolors, but it has its own personality. And my arm is still attached to my body.....a real plus! I think I ended up with 40 so lost 10 to the printmaking demons.
Best to all,
Barbara


>No need for a press
>for that paper and those little blocks, I don't think -- a baren would have
>been much more efficient...

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Message 11
From: L Cass
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:39:43 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27568] Re: Arthur Lesley Dow and random thought.
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Hi Carol - thanks for the link -Dow's work was interesting to view - the
woodcuts look rather like watercolours or even monoprints - wonder what his
technique was?? The U.S. abounds in delightful 19and 20th cent
impressionist artists!
Steele's work wasn't as good -too cluttered with detail - she seems to have
lived to a ripe old age tho' which puts me in mind of a local (Toronto)
ikon [ www.DorisMcCarthy.ca whose recent show of work done at the age of 94
last year is amazing - I was fully prepared to dismiss this follower in the
footsteps of our famous "Group of Seven" (also ikons for Canada but not
especially great painters) however her work has a beautiful simplicity
-tiniest bit reminiscent of Milton Avery or Georgia O'Keefe

The new work at www.wynicktuckgallery.ca doesn't show up well on the
computer screen - her colour is much subtler - there were also wood and
linocuts which they don't bother reproducing A gallery in Vancouver
www.petleyjones.ca just sent me an announcement of a local artist's show
www.michaelkluckner.com who has woodcuts on his site - he shows a tube of
Speedball ink with a short note on blocks (for shame!!) I join the people
who don't like Speedball products and have only used it in cases of urgent
haste as cleanup is so quick.

Thanks for all the comments on sharpening - I shall just keep on struggling
until I get to next year's summit where I'll hope for expert demos!
Happy Easter (it's too soon for Passover or Orthodox greetings)
Louise Cass

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