Today's postings
- [Baren 27522] Re: Sharpening and Ninja tools (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 27523] Re: Call for 'entries' ... ("Matt Laine")
- [Baren 27524] Re: Call for 'entries' ... ("Maria Diener (aka Arango)")
- [Baren 27525] Re: Baren Digest (old) V30 #3002 (eli griggs)
- [Baren 27526] 2006 Summit last call ("Maria Diener (aka Arango)")
Message 1
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:21:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27522] Re: Sharpening and Ninja tools
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A contribution on the tool discussion:
I have an inexpensive set of 5 tools that I bought for less than $5.00
about 40 years ago. They are probably the equivalent of the Ninji
being mentioned lately. I also have various and sundry tools from
McClain's and the Mall. That little original set is used equally with
the others and seems to keep an edge just as well as the more expensive
set. My opinion is, "what have you got to lose?" Buy the cheap set,
use them and supplement them. If you never use them again after buying
better ones as you go along, send them to Goodwill and let some other
unsuspecting fool get hooked on woodblock printing. My guess is that
you will have at least one or two favorites out of that cheap set and
will hold on to them for life. I may be an "ink snob", but I am
definitely an "equal opportunity tool employer". LOL (for new people
I have been known to squawk and carry on about Speedball waterbase
relief ink (student grade) used on exchange prints and have, therefore,
earned the title of ink snob-- a label which I have learned to wear
proudly!)
:~)
Cheers,
Sharri
I have an inexpensive set of 5 tools that I bought for less than $5.00
about 40 years ago. They are probably the equivalent of the Ninji
being mentioned lately. I also have various and sundry tools from
McClain's and the Mall. That little original set is used equally with
the others and seems to keep an edge just as well as the more expensive
set. My opinion is, "what have you got to lose?" Buy the cheap set,
use them and supplement them. If you never use them again after buying
better ones as you go along, send them to Goodwill and let some other
unsuspecting fool get hooked on woodblock printing. My guess is that
you will have at least one or two favorites out of that cheap set and
will hold on to them for life. I may be an "ink snob", but I am
definitely an "equal opportunity tool employer". LOL (for new people
I have been known to squawk and carry on about Speedball waterbase
relief ink (student grade) used on exchange prints and have, therefore,
earned the title of ink snob-- a label which I have learned to wear
proudly!)
:~)
Cheers,
Sharri
Message 2
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:47:44 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27523] Re: Call for 'entries' ...
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I know short observations were not what was asked, but to me the whole matter of worthiness
of a piece of art (Art?) is its effectiveness in generating an aesthetic experience for the viewer.
To me it's that simple.
Matt Laine
of a piece of art (Art?) is its effectiveness in generating an aesthetic experience for the viewer.
To me it's that simple.
Matt Laine
Message 3
From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)"
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:12:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27524] Re: Call for 'entries' ...
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Historically woodcut/woodblock prints have been made with the purpose of
printing cheap flyers, advertising pleasure businesses, "votivas" or prayer
cards and playing cards. Recently we held an exchange in which playing cards
were now magically transformed into "art" because we say it is. One of the
exchangers is mulling the idea of transforming them back into printed
objects for wider distribution. Why not?!
In the modern art world, the original purpose or the tradition of an art or
craft form seems completely detached and irrelevant to its value. Collectors
collect, decorators decorate, consumers purchase...and the value of the
object is and always will be what someone is willing to pay for it with near
complete disregard for craftsmanship or original creative purpose. This is
why many financially successful modern artists continually seek faster, less
laborious methods of producing images. The image, in art, is everything, and
it is why the world needs artists.
My .02c (I think)
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA
printing cheap flyers, advertising pleasure businesses, "votivas" or prayer
cards and playing cards. Recently we held an exchange in which playing cards
were now magically transformed into "art" because we say it is. One of the
exchangers is mulling the idea of transforming them back into printed
objects for wider distribution. Why not?!
In the modern art world, the original purpose or the tradition of an art or
craft form seems completely detached and irrelevant to its value. Collectors
collect, decorators decorate, consumers purchase...and the value of the
object is and always will be what someone is willing to pay for it with near
complete disregard for craftsmanship or original creative purpose. This is
why many financially successful modern artists continually seek faster, less
laborious methods of producing images. The image, in art, is everything, and
it is why the world needs artists.
My .02c (I think)
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA
Message 4
From: eli griggs
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:40:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 27525] Re: Baren Digest (old) V30 #3002
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Hi there:
You can make all the inside and outside gouge hones
and slips you want at very little cost and they will
fit each of your tools better than the store bought
offerings.
For gouges, you have any number of choice's, from
hardware-store dowels and pre-cut wooden shims, used
for leveling furniture, to art-store paper tortillons
and blending stumps. Slips can also be easily cut
from scrap wood.
If you know a wood-turner, have him/her turn some cone
shaped pieces, from basswood (whitewood) sugar pine or
mahogany, etc. in the appropriate sizes. Take your
gouge and run it along the length on one side,
removing enough material for a regular (outside)
profile.
Apply honing compound and there you go, a custom
fitted tool for your tool. Do one for each gouge and
label the larger end-grain end.
Look at this link to see the general shape you want to
end up with, keeping in mind that the Woodcraft tool
is intended to be a muti-tool platform. You can
easily tailor one of these for each of your gouges!
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=4026&FamilyID=229
By the way, you can also use automotive wet/dry and
industrial 'sandpapers' to sharpen the inside (as well
as outside) profile by simply cutting manageable
pieces and holding them to a correctly sized dowel or
wood slip.
If you take a small staple gun and tack the paper down
to the dowel or slip, you can make a number of these
in different grits. Of course you will always need to
keep the staples away from the gouge edge. You can
also use glue, I recommend the 3M spray on type.
Automotive papers and 3M industrial papers will do as
good a job as any wet stone out there, including the
8000 grit Japanese stone!
ALWAYS PULL YOU TOOL THROUGH, NEVER PUSH, AS YOUR TOOL
WILL CUT INTO THE HONE/SLIP OR PAPER!
Cheers,
Eli
You can make all the inside and outside gouge hones
and slips you want at very little cost and they will
fit each of your tools better than the store bought
offerings.
For gouges, you have any number of choice's, from
hardware-store dowels and pre-cut wooden shims, used
for leveling furniture, to art-store paper tortillons
and blending stumps. Slips can also be easily cut
from scrap wood.
If you know a wood-turner, have him/her turn some cone
shaped pieces, from basswood (whitewood) sugar pine or
mahogany, etc. in the appropriate sizes. Take your
gouge and run it along the length on one side,
removing enough material for a regular (outside)
profile.
Apply honing compound and there you go, a custom
fitted tool for your tool. Do one for each gouge and
label the larger end-grain end.
Look at this link to see the general shape you want to
end up with, keeping in mind that the Woodcraft tool
is intended to be a muti-tool platform. You can
easily tailor one of these for each of your gouges!
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=4026&FamilyID=229
By the way, you can also use automotive wet/dry and
industrial 'sandpapers' to sharpen the inside (as well
as outside) profile by simply cutting manageable
pieces and holding them to a correctly sized dowel or
wood slip.
If you take a small staple gun and tack the paper down
to the dowel or slip, you can make a number of these
in different grits. Of course you will always need to
keep the staples away from the gouge edge. You can
also use glue, I recommend the 3M spray on type.
Automotive papers and 3M industrial papers will do as
good a job as any wet stone out there, including the
8000 grit Japanese stone!
ALWAYS PULL YOU TOOL THROUGH, NEVER PUSH, AS YOUR TOOL
WILL CUT INTO THE HONE/SLIP OR PAPER!
Cheers,
Eli
Message 5
From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)"
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:47:48 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27526] 2006 Summit last call
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For those of you who have not had a chance to take the 2006 Great Northwest
Baren Summit and are pondering the possibility of attending, please go here:
Questionnaire:
http://www.barenforum.org/survey/survey.html
Results so far:
http://www.barenforum.org/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?survey_name=survey
Take the Questionnaire, check out the results so far and let's keep the
suggestions and comments coming.
Maria
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA
Baren Summit and are pondering the possibility of attending, please go here:
Questionnaire:
http://www.barenforum.org/survey/survey.html
Results so far:
http://www.barenforum.org/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?survey_name=survey
Take the Questionnaire, check out the results so far and let's keep the
suggestions and comments coming.
Maria
Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA