Today's postings
- [Baren 26759] RE: Baren Digest (old) V30 #2911 ("marilynn smih")
- [Baren 26760] Dan Welden's Message (GWohlken)
- [Baren 26761] Re: ART, the play. (Wanda Robertson)
- [Baren 26762] Re: ART, the play. ("Robert Canaga")
Message 1
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 07:36:21 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26759] RE: Baren Digest (old) V30 #2911
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John Center, congrats on your show. I am certain it will be a success.
As for conceptual art some of it leaves me scratching my head. Some years
ago an art group of mine weekended in Seattle. We booked a hotel and did
the Seattle Art Museum and several other shows in the area. One such show
was rooms filled with canaries, they just were flyng around in these rooms
painted about the color of their excrement and it smelled like bird poop.
The birds messed all over and they left that as part of the "art". I guess
it was considered a performance piece, I never did undersatnd how it was
art.
I got into this discussion with a woman whose daughter represents artists.
At the time I did not know that fact. She was telling me how this local
painter was selling work way up in price and i said well in my opinion no
living artist is worth that kind of money. She got really nasty about it.
But it seems the rich and famous of Cabo will buy it just to say they paid a
lot for it and have cocktail parties to view and discuss their latest
aquisitions. He is a good painter, but only history will tell if his work
is really worth that kind of money.
Then there was the person who bought a copy print for several thousand
through "their" gallery and had it framed for the cost of several thoushand
dollars more. i said gosh mat board and frames are not that spendy and they
said well they also got special glass that would keep the "print" in better
non fade condition. I gave up trying to argue with these folks. I decided
to spend my time and energy just doing what I love and stop fussing about
this silliness. I will admit tho, if someone offered me a few grand for a
print, one of several hundered i would rake in the dough. But I won't spend
my time pursuing it.
Marilynn
As for conceptual art some of it leaves me scratching my head. Some years
ago an art group of mine weekended in Seattle. We booked a hotel and did
the Seattle Art Museum and several other shows in the area. One such show
was rooms filled with canaries, they just were flyng around in these rooms
painted about the color of their excrement and it smelled like bird poop.
The birds messed all over and they left that as part of the "art". I guess
it was considered a performance piece, I never did undersatnd how it was
art.
I got into this discussion with a woman whose daughter represents artists.
At the time I did not know that fact. She was telling me how this local
painter was selling work way up in price and i said well in my opinion no
living artist is worth that kind of money. She got really nasty about it.
But it seems the rich and famous of Cabo will buy it just to say they paid a
lot for it and have cocktail parties to view and discuss their latest
aquisitions. He is a good painter, but only history will tell if his work
is really worth that kind of money.
Then there was the person who bought a copy print for several thousand
through "their" gallery and had it framed for the cost of several thoushand
dollars more. i said gosh mat board and frames are not that spendy and they
said well they also got special glass that would keep the "print" in better
non fade condition. I gave up trying to argue with these folks. I decided
to spend my time and energy just doing what I love and stop fussing about
this silliness. I will admit tho, if someone offered me a few grand for a
print, one of several hundered i would rake in the dough. But I won't spend
my time pursuing it.
Marilynn
Message 2
From: GWohlken
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:37:16 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26760] Dan Welden's Message
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Bareners, it seems Dan Welden's message regarding his upcoming summer
program in Florence did not make it into the html version of the
digest. So here it is again. Sorry it's a repeat for those who
receive the messages individually.
> Dear Members of the Baren:
> I'm just making a little announcement concerning my summer program in
> Florence from August 8-26th. Besides Solarplate, there will be
> opportunities for monoprinting in the beautiful air conditioned studio of Santa Reparata
> as well as a visit to the Venice Biennalle. Besides 4 etching presses, qualified
> people interested in woodcut can use one of the proof presses available.
>
> Along with my class, there are other options available including Printmaking
> with Ron Pokrasso; Photography with David Hoptman; and two Painting
> sections, one with Philippa Blair, the other with Peter Solow.
>
> If you have an interest in any of the above and would like moreminformation,
> please let me know and I'll be happy to forward you details.
>
> The early bird tuition cost of $1,950 has been extended till the end of the
> month.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Dan Welden
Welcome, Brad, and congratulations to John for his upcoming show in
Evanston, IL.
~Gayle/Ohio
(Archivist)
program in Florence did not make it into the html version of the
digest. So here it is again. Sorry it's a repeat for those who
receive the messages individually.
> Dear Members of the Baren:
> I'm just making a little announcement concerning my summer program in
> Florence from August 8-26th. Besides Solarplate, there will be
> opportunities for monoprinting in the beautiful air conditioned studio of Santa Reparata
> as well as a visit to the Venice Biennalle. Besides 4 etching presses, qualified
> people interested in woodcut can use one of the proof presses available.
>
> Along with my class, there are other options available including Printmaking
> with Ron Pokrasso; Photography with David Hoptman; and two Painting
> sections, one with Philippa Blair, the other with Peter Solow.
>
> If you have an interest in any of the above and would like moreminformation,
> please let me know and I'll be happy to forward you details.
>
> The early bird tuition cost of $1,950 has been extended till the end of the
> month.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Dan Welden
Welcome, Brad, and congratulations to John for his upcoming show in
Evanston, IL.
~Gayle/Ohio
(Archivist)
Message 3
From: Wanda Robertson
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:29:47 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26761] Re: ART, the play.
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I actually got to see that play live in NY! Alan Alda was the star & I
was there with an art class (painting) from our local community
college. It was great fun & we had a lot of interesting conversations
sparked by the play. But I don't remember the ending. :-)
Wanda
was there with an art class (painting) from our local community
college. It was great fun & we had a lot of interesting conversations
sparked by the play. But I don't remember the ending. :-)
Wanda
Message 4
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:31:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26762] Re: ART, the play.
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I also saw the play here in Eugene performed by Willamette Rep. I got to
paint the "artwork"! Great fun painting white on white . I painted(?) 10,
one for the lobby and one for each show with one unmarked so they could use
it again.
paint the "artwork"! Great fun painting white on white . I painted(?) 10,
one for the lobby and one for each show with one unmarked so they could use
it again.