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Message 1
From: "nancy osadchuk"
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:22:38 -0700
Subject: [Baren 26579] RE: Baren Digest (old) V29 #2878 fading pigment
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I see Mike beat me to the draw, but I was also going to suggest Ralph Mayers' book. It has a wealth of info on pigments...Nancy O

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Message 2
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:48:33 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26580] Re: Korokoro Baren question
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Bette wrote:
>Has anyone had good results with the Korokoro Baren $137.37 at the
>mall? - http://barenforum.org/mall/products/barens.php

Yes -- noisy but excellent -- light pressure though -- it is very strong!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 3
From: Snoman114 # aol.com
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:07:48 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26581] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML)  V29 #2879 (Dec 6, 2004)
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I have a question for anyone who knows alot about adhesives. I recently printed a small woodblock image on some beautiful, thin Japanese paper. I wanted to mount the paper on a thicker piece of paper, or possibly on wood. I get nervous when experimenting with adhesives and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of what I should use? thanks.
bobby rosenstock
portland, or

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Message 4
From: pulpfic # sunshinecable.com
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 13:45:38 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26582] Re: adhesives
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Hi Bobby,
I've been doing a lot of collage work recently, and am using acrylic medium
(matte) as my adhesive.

Coat the front of the support paper and the back of the thin paper.

Let the medium dry completely, then position the two papers as desired.

Place a piece of silicone release paper (baking parchment works well) over
the top paper and iron with a regular household iron set at low temperature
(no steam).

As long as you place your papers carefully and iron from the center
outward, your materials should remain wrinkle-free.

If you are printing with re-wettable water-based inks (eg. Speedball) it
works best to coat the back of the thin paper with acrylic medium _before_
printing to prevent any smearing of the printed image.

If you want to use acrylic medium to adhere heavier papers, you can use two
coats of medium, or use one of the thicker gel mediums. I think I'd also
use two coats of medium on the wood (to make sure it wasn't lost to
absorption) if I wanted to adhere paper to it, and make sure the wood was
sanded smooth for best contact.

Different brands of acylic medium will affect papers in possibly unexpected
ways; some will make the thin papers quite translucent, and others will
actually make it less translucent - experiment on scrap pieces of your
papers to find the result you want. Golden Matte Medium makes the paper
less translucent, while Stevenson Matte Medium (a Canadian brand) renders
papers very translucent.

Take care,
Randi
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Message 5
From: Daniel Dew
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:00:04 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26583] Anyone Need a carver?
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I've just about given up!
I love to carve, to create, I love it!
But I am getting totally frustrated
printing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am using Hosho paper, graphic chemical water based inks, but I do not
have a press.
Therefore, I can't seem to get an impression that is either dark enough
or clear enough to hold my delicate carving.
So, I try, but it is getting more and more frustrating.

Maybe I should just carve and have someone else print my work?


Daniel L. Dew

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Message 6
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:09:11 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26584] Re: Anyone Need a carver?
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Dan Dew wrote:
>I've just about given up! I love to carve, to create, I love it! But I am
>getting totally frustrated printing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>I am using Hosho paper, graphic chemical water based inks, but I do not
>have a press. Therefore, I can't seem to get an impression that is either
>dark enough or clear enough to hold my delicate carving. So, I try, but it
>is getting more and more frustrating.
>
>Maybe I should just carve and have someone else print my work?

Why not (just this one time -- consider it an experiment) try sumi -- just
dampen the surface of your block (if it's wood -- keep it damp for 10
minutes or so, then wipe off excess with a paper towel -- if it's linoleum,
you'll surely have to rough it up first to give it a little 'tooth' and
prevent beading... maybe 400 grit sandpaper and a sanding block or small
random orbit sander -- no soaking necessary, but do add a couple drops of
heavy-cream consistency rice paste or methyl cellulose or the like ) and
then a few drops of sumi -- 'scrub' it on very thinly with any big
short-bristly brush you have on hand (or a small shoe brush) so you have a
matte-ish (not glossy-wet) surface (but not dry, either) and print with
baren (or whatever you use) as usual... You may have to print half a dozen
sheets before you have the 'hang'a it -- but I think you'll be pleasantly
surprised!

If it's not dark enough for you, then repeat (in which case you'll need
some sort of registration scheme -- maybe shallow kento carved right into
the lino?)... Voila! Instant moku-hanga (or rinoriumu-hanga as the case
may be :-)... Better than quitting!

Mike

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 7
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:34:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26585] adhesives
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Bobby,
Yuji Hiratsuka does this and he uses some type of contact paper stuff...it works well but is fairly expensive. Spray glue works, but only for a year or two.....or call up RS Hughes company and ask them...they are the distributor for 3-m here in Portland. Tell them you want it archival. The other person to ask is Elisabeth Chambers at the Portland Art Museum...she could tell you what to use. Call the Museum, 502-226-2811 and ask for her. She is very nice. Yes paste works, so does pva glue ....the trick is to find what does the best job with the least chance of damage. Elisabeth is your gal for this.
Best to you,
Barbara

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Message 8
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:44:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26586] Re: adhesives
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I forgot to mention that Elisabeth is the restoration expert at the museum, so she has enormous experience in what to use and what to avoid.
Sorry for the second post.
Barbara

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Message 9
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:57:21 EST
Subject: [Baren 26587] Re: adhesives
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Adhesives:
I go with YES glue. My teacher suggested it. Caldecott Winner, Ed Young,
1990.
Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY

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Message 10
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:37:51 -0800
Subject: [Baren 26588] Re: Anyone Need a carver?
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Try other not -so-absorbent papers, even Zirkal Book 100gpm is better than
Hosho for waterbased work:)
Never give up, just change ONE thing at a time.
PS, if you get a woodblock in the mail....
RC

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Message 11
From: juan Guerrero
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 22:45:29 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26589] printing with children
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BARENERS:

Next month I will be teaching some print workshops for children in small
villages here in Mexico.
I am working now in my programme.
I will be making the process of Styrofoam plates from recycled trays. I
have to print "by hand" (I mean by baren), with no press. Any ideas of what
other processes could I use?

Juan Guerrero

Alternative e-mail:
2ojos#ozu.es
www.juanguerrero.tk

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Message 12
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:56:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26590] ball bearing barens
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bette, I have never used the ball-bearing through the Baren mall but I have two which I have purchased through McClain's. These are more expensive (I'm not sure how much they are at present, but for me were worth every penny, particularly for printing large areas. They are like having a power tool baren. Happy printing!
Sarah

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