Today's postings
- [Baren 24986] printing nightmares (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 24987] Re: That ^^($(% Print ("Matt Laine")
- [Baren 24988] Re: That ^^($(% Print (Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com)
- [Baren 24989] latest show in TO (L Cass)
- [Baren 24990] Re: Woodcuts (Mary Brooks-Mueller)
- [Baren 24991] Re: That ^^($(% Print (Margaret Szvetecz)
Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24986] printing nightmares
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Dan and all,
We all have printing problems and are usually too embarassed to whine......but when we cannot stand the frustration any more, we just blow up. Good thing everyone on baren understands.
I had a problem with the paper wrinkling, one I rerely have. then I carved away a part I meant to leave on the second block. Frank, I loved your solution to this one!
Then I got a bad case of reactive arthrits and ended up never carving the third block...you can look this evil disease up on the internet...it is hideous but I do seem to be better.
Something seems to come up each time I do an exchange and I still sign up for them.
I am trying a new ink and it seems ok, but since I started with it went ahead and did the edition with it. Not as black as I would like. I am rarely satisfied with my own work, but I find if I put it away for a few weeks and then take it out it looks better to me.
Printmaking is demanding and we keep striving to do it better and sometimes we do one that is better than we know how to do. This is what keeps us going on.
Wanda, to keep paper you just need a drawer for each one! Seriously, I find if I get a huge piece of something, tagboard or cardboard to layer stuff with each layer labeled it works. Of course you have to put the paper back into the right slot and put it in when you buy it. Not so easy when it is large as you have to remove the top layers, but this does work.
I think hanga is expensive, but only once. The tools last forever and I know I have spent 10 times the amount of money on solar plates than I have on wood. And with the plates I need a press....also hanga is so wonderfully portable. This is surely its best feature!
Off to the studio..
Best to all,
Barbara
We all have printing problems and are usually too embarassed to whine......but when we cannot stand the frustration any more, we just blow up. Good thing everyone on baren understands.
I had a problem with the paper wrinkling, one I rerely have. then I carved away a part I meant to leave on the second block. Frank, I loved your solution to this one!
Then I got a bad case of reactive arthrits and ended up never carving the third block...you can look this evil disease up on the internet...it is hideous but I do seem to be better.
Something seems to come up each time I do an exchange and I still sign up for them.
I am trying a new ink and it seems ok, but since I started with it went ahead and did the edition with it. Not as black as I would like. I am rarely satisfied with my own work, but I find if I put it away for a few weeks and then take it out it looks better to me.
Printmaking is demanding and we keep striving to do it better and sometimes we do one that is better than we know how to do. This is what keeps us going on.
Wanda, to keep paper you just need a drawer for each one! Seriously, I find if I get a huge piece of something, tagboard or cardboard to layer stuff with each layer labeled it works. Of course you have to put the paper back into the right slot and put it in when you buy it. Not so easy when it is large as you have to remove the top layers, but this does work.
I think hanga is expensive, but only once. The tools last forever and I know I have spent 10 times the amount of money on solar plates than I have on wood. And with the plates I need a press....also hanga is so wonderfully portable. This is surely its best feature!
Off to the studio..
Best to all,
Barbara
Message 2
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:37:54 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24987] Re: That ^^($(% Print
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'' So I decided to title my print
"Broken Cross" and proceeded to print the edition."
Ingenious!
"Broken Cross" and proceeded to print the edition."
Ingenious!
Message 3
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:09:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24988] Re: That ^^($(% Print
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Dan, Matt, Barbara......you guys are not alone. I usually get in trouble
when taking shortcuts....like not planning the design carefully and/or my
color separations properly, or trying to save money by using the 'wrong'
materials.
I use a modified hanga style were I prepare, mix and apply colors ala
Japanese style using all the right materials and tools but I differ in
that I sometimes print my large color areas with a press instead of with a
baren. The smaller & more sensitive color areas are then hand printed
later with a baren. Sometimes after I print a large color area with a
press I then go over it with the baren to really get that pigment deep
into the paper.
One time I tried to cut costs and used a piece of 1/8" thick
cherry....nice carving but talk about mistakes...half way thru my edition
the warp on the wood was almost 1/2" high, I am not exaggerating ! It was
not so obvious while I was printing but when I took a short break (1/2
hour) and came back to a dry block to print more..the wood had warped lile
crazy.
Another time I tried to take a shorcut with my registration ( I always use
the traditional kento) and I suffered badly thru the
whole edition as my shortcut ended up being a big time waster as I had to
keep track of almost every sheet as to alignment deviations, etc....
I really find that if you stick to the traditional and proven materials &
techniques, the carving & printing go pretty much w/o trouble.
I wanted to thank everyone again in the Self-Portrait exchange for
participating, I had lot of fun this weekend sharing the prints with
friends & family.
good luck to all..........Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)
when taking shortcuts....like not planning the design carefully and/or my
color separations properly, or trying to save money by using the 'wrong'
materials.
I use a modified hanga style were I prepare, mix and apply colors ala
Japanese style using all the right materials and tools but I differ in
that I sometimes print my large color areas with a press instead of with a
baren. The smaller & more sensitive color areas are then hand printed
later with a baren. Sometimes after I print a large color area with a
press I then go over it with the baren to really get that pigment deep
into the paper.
One time I tried to cut costs and used a piece of 1/8" thick
cherry....nice carving but talk about mistakes...half way thru my edition
the warp on the wood was almost 1/2" high, I am not exaggerating ! It was
not so obvious while I was printing but when I took a short break (1/2
hour) and came back to a dry block to print more..the wood had warped lile
crazy.
Another time I tried to take a shorcut with my registration ( I always use
the traditional kento) and I suffered badly thru the
whole edition as my shortcut ended up being a big time waster as I had to
keep track of almost every sheet as to alignment deviations, etc....
I really find that if you stick to the traditional and proven materials &
techniques, the carving & printing go pretty much w/o trouble.
I wanted to thank everyone again in the Self-Portrait exchange for
participating, I had lot of fun this weekend sharing the prints with
friends & family.
good luck to all..........Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)
Message 4
From: L Cass
Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 17:49:35 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24989] latest show in TO
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Hi -
This is really for John Furr and Emma Hogbin (and any other interested parties
in Toronto) - I just hung 28 pieces of work (12 are woodcuts) this a.m. at
The Beacher Café, 2162 Queen Street East - the 'show' will be there until
June !st and I'm astounded at how good it looks (I'm usually not at all happy
with my exhibitions) - the restaurant is very large and and quite
minimalist re decor -
daylight (from the south) floods in and seems to enhance my colour -I've
yet to
see the night lighting. I'd never considered showing in a café or
restaurant before
and I find that in this instance the work looks better than in the gallery
show I had
back in November. Incidentally the woodcuts are only matted so there's no
problem with reflections - just hope no food goes flying onto the walls!
I shall try at some point to get some pics up on Baren's 'show and tell'
regards to all
Louise Cass
www.LCassArt.com
Message 5
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 24990] Re: Woodcuts
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From Mary Brooks-Mueller--
I graduated from the University of Kansas, Another
Lazansky offspring, John Talleur, was my prof. and
dept head. Printmaking I = Relief print & engraving.
Further course work was specified, etching/intaglio,
or litho or serigraphy. After that, a person just
enrolled in Advanced Printmaking and did what they
wanted to do. Litho & serigraphy were taught by a
separate teacher and there was some competition
between the 2 studios. Talleur was not a litho etc.
fan, and his bias was woodblock and letterpress.
I was real fortunate to study under him.
When he died 2 years ago he donated 7 presses to the
Univ!
Mary
I graduated from the University of Kansas, Another
Lazansky offspring, John Talleur, was my prof. and
dept head. Printmaking I = Relief print & engraving.
Further course work was specified, etching/intaglio,
or litho or serigraphy. After that, a person just
enrolled in Advanced Printmaking and did what they
wanted to do. Litho & serigraphy were taught by a
separate teacher and there was some competition
between the 2 studios. Talleur was not a litho etc.
fan, and his bias was woodblock and letterpress.
I was real fortunate to study under him.
When he died 2 years ago he donated 7 presses to the
Univ!
Mary
Message 6
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 17:41:15 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Baren 24991] Re: That ^^($(% Print
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Oh Dan,
In the process of making the prints I've done (and not just relief prints) I've made sooooo many mistakes. There are just so many variables, and an artist/printmaker is usually doing a fair share of experimenting--which only adds to the opportunity for the unexpected to rear its frowning little head.
If you've only had one print edition go wacko on you, you are so ahead of the game....
Margaret Szvetecz
margarszv#earthlink.net