Today's postings
- [Baren 24312] Re: PUZZLE! (Janet Hollander)
- [Baren 24313] barbara's book (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 24314] Re: barbara's book (ArtfulCarol # aol.com)
- [Baren 24315] Re: barbara's book (Aqua4tis # aol.com)
- [Baren 24316] John Center-Self Portait (b.patera # att.net)
- [Baren 24317] Re: John Center-Self Portait (FurryPressII # aol.com)
- [Baren 24318] thanks (Shireen Holman)
- [Baren 24319] oil and water (Woodblocksteve # aol.com)
- [Baren 24320] Re: barbara's book ("Matt Laine")
- [Baren 24321] Re: oil and water (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 24322] Oil based inks (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 24323] Re: more ink (Mary Brooks-Mueller)
- [Baren 24324] Re: Baren Digest (old) V26 #2556 (LEAFRUTH # aol.com)
Message 1
From: Janet Hollander
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:31:50 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24312] Re: PUZZLE!
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about the Puzzle - How thoroughly fabulous. It was a brilliant concept and
the result is exhilarating.
Thank You Everyone who made this. The world depends on the Makers.
Lots of prints to see in New York these days - a special Munakata exhibit at
Japan Society (his 100th birthday). Kiki Smith at MoMA Queens - Thanks to
Dusica and the Lower East Side Print Shop for arranging a wonderful tour
with the curator. And the Met has a show about how Chuck Close makes prints,
and who he works with. I haven't seen it yet. Come to NY!
Janet
the result is exhilarating.
Thank You Everyone who made this. The world depends on the Makers.
Lots of prints to see in New York these days - a special Munakata exhibit at
Japan Society (his 100th birthday). Kiki Smith at MoMA Queens - Thanks to
Dusica and the Lower East Side Print Shop for arranging a wonderful tour
with the curator. And the Met has a show about how Chuck Close makes prints,
and who he works with. I haven't seen it yet. Come to NY!
Janet
Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24313] barbara's book
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thanks guys for the high praise....
Actually I am writing a book but at the rate I am going it will be a year before it is even half done.
Title: Printmaking in your classroom without a press for teachers k-12
As soon as I get it done, I will let you proof it! I have been working on it a year already and am only to chapter 3.....a long very slow process, mostly because I am so busy being a volunteer. This last week I was in three different schools, one elementary, one private highschool and one highschool in the absolutely toughest part of town...The kids in this inner city school were so very nice and polite and all thanked me for coming and on top of that they had a lot of talent. I expceted the private school kids to be more together...wrong.
One boy from this innner city school asked me if he could come and be my student in my studio...whenever a young person asks this I always say yes, I make them committ to coming to my studio 5 weekends or evenings . I think it takes that much time to learn anything and if I am giving my time I want a committment of theirs. He is a senior and his name is Antonio...I will keep you posted on his progress! I never charge kids for this, to make up for it, I teach adults and charge them a lot! Today and tomorrow I am teaching 6 adults solarplate...a huge amount of fun for them and for me! Once they get going I can actually do a little work of my own.
I am off to turn on the heat in the studio!
Best to all,
Barbara
Actually I am writing a book but at the rate I am going it will be a year before it is even half done.
Title: Printmaking in your classroom without a press for teachers k-12
As soon as I get it done, I will let you proof it! I have been working on it a year already and am only to chapter 3.....a long very slow process, mostly because I am so busy being a volunteer. This last week I was in three different schools, one elementary, one private highschool and one highschool in the absolutely toughest part of town...The kids in this inner city school were so very nice and polite and all thanked me for coming and on top of that they had a lot of talent. I expceted the private school kids to be more together...wrong.
One boy from this innner city school asked me if he could come and be my student in my studio...whenever a young person asks this I always say yes, I make them committ to coming to my studio 5 weekends or evenings . I think it takes that much time to learn anything and if I am giving my time I want a committment of theirs. He is a senior and his name is Antonio...I will keep you posted on his progress! I never charge kids for this, to make up for it, I teach adults and charge them a lot! Today and tomorrow I am teaching 6 adults solarplate...a huge amount of fun for them and for me! Once they get going I can actually do a little work of my own.
I am off to turn on the heat in the studio!
Best to all,
Barbara
Message 3
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:04:06 EST
Subject: [Baren 24314] Re: barbara's book
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Barbara
Thank you for all your work with Maria on the TERRIFIC Puzzle Project. And
that is an understatement.
Much luck on the book you are writing. Your experiences sound exciting and
so worth while. Keep us posted.
With inked wood like peau de soie
Carol L.
Thank you for all your work with Maria on the TERRIFIC Puzzle Project. And
that is an understatement.
Much luck on the book you are writing. Your experiences sound exciting and
so worth while. Keep us posted.
With inked wood like peau de soie
Carol L.
Message 4
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:35:08 EST
Subject: [Baren 24315] Re: barbara's book
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barbara
this is exciting news!!! im hoping to get the school to purchase a small
dick blick pressw for my classroom next year but id still be VERY interested
in your book and i love that you dont charge the kids!!
im trying to get our arts commission to apply for a grant so that we can
get a summer arts program started here teaching printmaking to both adults
and kids i want it to be free of inexpensive we will see
good luck with the book and everything else
georga
this is exciting news!!! im hoping to get the school to purchase a small
dick blick pressw for my classroom next year but id still be VERY interested
in your book and i love that you dont charge the kids!!
im trying to get our arts commission to apply for a grant so that we can
get a summer arts program started here teaching printmaking to both adults
and kids i want it to be free of inexpensive we will see
good luck with the book and everything else
georga
Message 5
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 15:55:11 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24316] John Center-Self Portait
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John,
For some reason all my mail to you is now bouncing back .... even when I am replying to you.
You have my humble appologies .... I missed putting your on the "HERE" list..... And your prints were the the first in.
It's good news though, means that there are 19 sets here!
Regards,
Barbara P.
For some reason all my mail to you is now bouncing back .... even when I am replying to you.
You have my humble appologies .... I missed putting your on the "HERE" list..... And your prints were the the first in.
It's good news though, means that there are 19 sets here!
Regards,
Barbara P.
Message 6
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:27:52 EST
Subject: [Baren 24317] Re: John Center-Self Portait
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i got it this time funny story about my father and his last name
being mispelled he was in the navy and they had a list of the sailors who could
not have liberty and they spelled his name "senter" the m.p. knew it was
him and he new it was him but being the navy as he was "center" they let him
go on liberty they never mispelled it again after that though.
john center
being mispelled he was in the navy and they had a list of the sailors who could
not have liberty and they spelled his name "senter" the m.p. knew it was
him and he new it was him but being the navy as he was "center" they let him
go on liberty they never mispelled it again after that though.
john center
Message 7
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:35:14 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24318] thanks
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Thanks for the information about clear envelopes. Yes, they really look nice.
Barbara, I think it's great that you're writing a book! You have a lot of
knowledge about so many aspects of printmaking.
Shireen
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Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
email: shireen@shireenholman.com
http://www.shireenholman.com
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Barbara, I think it's great that you're writing a book! You have a lot of
knowledge about so many aspects of printmaking.
Shireen
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Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
email: shireen@shireenholman.com
http://www.shireenholman.com
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Message 8
From: Woodblocksteve # aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:47:49 EST
Subject: [Baren 24319] oil and water
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Hi Everyone,
Can I just ask one more about ink? I know that you can dampen the paper
before printing even with oil based inks. I've tried it and it does make a better
print. I tend not to because it then causes problems with registration. But
the question is :- why does wetting the paper make the print better. After
all, oil and water don't mix right? So whats happening there?
By the way. It doesn't get that cold here but my studio is not heated so
often in the winter I work in an overcoat. But the inks go really stiff and I
have to warm the glass sheet I use to roll the inks on and also the block itself.
I have an old photographic warming plate which I use for that. My feeling
is that warmer is better for printing. I guess 75 to 80 degrees would be ideal.
Cheers
Steve
Can I just ask one more about ink? I know that you can dampen the paper
before printing even with oil based inks. I've tried it and it does make a better
print. I tend not to because it then causes problems with registration. But
the question is :- why does wetting the paper make the print better. After
all, oil and water don't mix right? So whats happening there?
By the way. It doesn't get that cold here but my studio is not heated so
often in the winter I work in an overcoat. But the inks go really stiff and I
have to warm the glass sheet I use to roll the inks on and also the block itself.
I have an old photographic warming plate which I use for that. My feeling
is that warmer is better for printing. I guess 75 to 80 degrees would be ideal.
Cheers
Steve
Message 9
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:12:27 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24320] Re: barbara's book
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Bravo! You will make a difference for these kids, I'll bet.
Matt
Barbara Mason wrote:
thanks guys for the high praise....
Actually I am writing a book but at the rate I am going it will be a year before it is even half done.
Title: Printmaking in your classroom without a press for teachers k-12...
Matt
Barbara Mason wrote:
thanks guys for the high praise....
Actually I am writing a book but at the rate I am going it will be a year before it is even half done.
Title: Printmaking in your classroom without a press for teachers k-12...
Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:15:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24321] Re: oil and water
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Steve,
Damp paper should not cause any problems with registration, if you keep it damp while you print....if using oil based inks you can layer them between anything plastic and keep them in a plastic bag. If your printing goes on too long, put the paper in the freezer! If you soak it in a water bath, blot it dry on old bath towels, then keep it in the bag as you print. If I am doing only one print (monotype) I throw it back into the water and blot it again for the next printing, using a piece of newsprint on top of the paper to keep ink off the towels.
The reason damp paper works better, it opens up the cell structure of the cotton in the paper and allows it to absorb the ink better...damp paper will always pull more ink of the block. When printing dry, lots of printmakers actually blot the paper between colors. To do this take a piece of newsprint and lay over the paper, rub hard in one direction with the side of your hand, being very careful nlot to move the newsprint. This will allow your next inking to stick better as the surface will be drier and more "open".
You know, about the book thing, I really have no degree in printmaking. Just lots of classes from lots of people over 20 years and I admit to being a process junkie. So I could very easily give the wrong info...so you do have to try stuff and see if it works for you. I will send the book to anyone who wants it when I get it done...maybe I will do an e-book!
Best to all,
Barbara
Damp paper should not cause any problems with registration, if you keep it damp while you print....if using oil based inks you can layer them between anything plastic and keep them in a plastic bag. If your printing goes on too long, put the paper in the freezer! If you soak it in a water bath, blot it dry on old bath towels, then keep it in the bag as you print. If I am doing only one print (monotype) I throw it back into the water and blot it again for the next printing, using a piece of newsprint on top of the paper to keep ink off the towels.
The reason damp paper works better, it opens up the cell structure of the cotton in the paper and allows it to absorb the ink better...damp paper will always pull more ink of the block. When printing dry, lots of printmakers actually blot the paper between colors. To do this take a piece of newsprint and lay over the paper, rub hard in one direction with the side of your hand, being very careful nlot to move the newsprint. This will allow your next inking to stick better as the surface will be drier and more "open".
You know, about the book thing, I really have no degree in printmaking. Just lots of classes from lots of people over 20 years and I admit to being a process junkie. So I could very easily give the wrong info...so you do have to try stuff and see if it works for you. I will send the book to anyone who wants it when I get it done...maybe I will do an e-book!
Best to all,
Barbara
Message 11
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:31:11 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24322] Oil based inks
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Steve,
I lived in that triple didget temperature that Barbara referred to for
27 years and never had heat affect the ink, or oil paints. As for cold,
I can't really speak to that. I do think you have run into a
viscosity problem, though, and you may have to alter your inks with a
medium such as Miracle Gel Reducer, EZ Wipe, etc. Do not mix just any
linseed oil with your inks, you will end up with problems you would
rather not experience. The opaque inks like burnt sienna, umber,
ochre, etc. are made with earth pigments and will generally be stiffer
than the transparent colors; those made with dyes and chemical
compounds like alizarin crimson, thalos, quintacidrines which will be
runnier. At any rate, you will probably be more successful adjusting
your viscosities and printing on damp paper. Maybe your ink is just
old - sometimes when it is old it gets grainy and no amount of cleaning
up will make it useful again. When that happens it is time to call
upon Dean at good old Graphic Chemical. No matter where you are Dean
will ship to you. If you're in the far north he may even get on his
dog sled and deliver it personally. Yes, really, that is how good
their personal service is!
John,
Yes, sad but true, I am older than dirt. I only know that swish-swish
sound from back in the civil war days when Scarlet used to flaunt her
16" waist around the plantation & beyond. Now you know the ugly truth.
:-)
Cheers,
Sharri
PS Marilynn - congratulations! You will love being a grandma
I lived in that triple didget temperature that Barbara referred to for
27 years and never had heat affect the ink, or oil paints. As for cold,
I can't really speak to that. I do think you have run into a
viscosity problem, though, and you may have to alter your inks with a
medium such as Miracle Gel Reducer, EZ Wipe, etc. Do not mix just any
linseed oil with your inks, you will end up with problems you would
rather not experience. The opaque inks like burnt sienna, umber,
ochre, etc. are made with earth pigments and will generally be stiffer
than the transparent colors; those made with dyes and chemical
compounds like alizarin crimson, thalos, quintacidrines which will be
runnier. At any rate, you will probably be more successful adjusting
your viscosities and printing on damp paper. Maybe your ink is just
old - sometimes when it is old it gets grainy and no amount of cleaning
up will make it useful again. When that happens it is time to call
upon Dean at good old Graphic Chemical. No matter where you are Dean
will ship to you. If you're in the far north he may even get on his
dog sled and deliver it personally. Yes, really, that is how good
their personal service is!
John,
Yes, sad but true, I am older than dirt. I only know that swish-swish
sound from back in the civil war days when Scarlet used to flaunt her
16" waist around the plantation & beyond. Now you know the ugly truth.
:-)
Cheers,
Sharri
PS Marilynn - congratulations! You will love being a grandma
Message 12
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:41:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24323] Re: more ink
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I think it's archeytpal - From the Latin "atrataum"
meaning "to be clothed in black" is derived from A
"atramentum" Latin for guess what? INK.
Dr. Mary
meaning "to be clothed in black" is derived from A
"atramentum" Latin for guess what? INK.
Dr. Mary
Message 13
From: LEAFRUTH # aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:53:44 EST
Subject: [Baren 24324] Re: Baren Digest (old) V26 #2556
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Marilynn, You can use RAW Linseed oil or safflower oil works very well. Try
it. Ruth
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it. Ruth
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