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Message 1
From: GWohlken
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24019] Monkeys, Thanks, Ink, Exchange 18A
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Jan wrote, regarding her postcards,

> Monkey nuts? Yes!!!!...

Huh? The ones I received, Jan, didn't have this. Are some of them
different? And by the way, that was very clever of you to make them
like a row of folded paper dolls.

Ruth Leaf, I like your monkeys too. I have such a great monkey gallery
going on my black refrigerator. Thanks everyone. I'm still thinking
about what I want to do. Frank Trueba had suggested vampire Christmas
monkeys which is an interesting idea, but I may not want to wait until
Christmas again to send mine out, though sending them then does sort of
work as a Christmas card which is more traditional in the western
world.

Sharri LaPierre, thank you for offlist ink help. I have a
lot of experimenting to do with ideas I have received from both you and
Barbara Mason.

I'm looking for that perfect black oil based ink which covers all
colors and isn't muted by anything that's below it. I guess that's too
much to ask for.

When will we get to see the new exchange online? I can't wait to see
yours, Julio, after your description of it.

~Gayle/Northeast Ohio

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Message 2
From: David Bull
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:19:21 +0900
Subject: [Baren 24020] What do you call this?
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Starting to put things back together and get back to work after last
week's exhibition. It went fairly well - got quite a number of advance
orders for the upcoming new print series, enough to make me think that
it might be pretty successful once it gets going ...

Anyway, thinking forward towards that new series, I need to ask
something of the teeming multitude of [Baren] members, all of whom have
more experience with presses than I do. What I want to find/buy/make is
a kind of small double roller type press built the way that the old
washing machine mangles used to be - no bed, just two rollers with a
crank attached. I'm not going to _print_ with it, but need it for
flattening paper _before_ starting to print.

I've tried searching the net, but don't have a clue what to call such a
thing, and searching on 'press' or 'roller press' certainly doesn't get
any results ...

Anybody have any ideas on where I could get one of these? It would have
to be at least wide enough to handle a sheet of o-ban type paper - say
around 30cm wide.

Thanks for any advice!

Dave

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Message 3
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:29:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24021] Re: What do you call this?
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You can try searching on ebay for "mangle." A few are listed now.
Darrell

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Message 4
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:10:52 EST
Subject: [Baren 24022] Gustave Baumann
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Hi,

A while ago someone asked about Gustave Baumann and I just found the book
with information. There is a chapter on him in Artists of Brown County by Lyn
Letsinger-Miller, Indiana University Press.
Of interest:
He carved with a jackknife and gouge.
He organized the first show in the U.S. of color woodblock prints, held at
the Art Institute of Chicago.
He said " Art is a kind of tyrant. It pushes you around . It came to me
dressed up in wanderlust"

The Annex Galleries in Santa Rosa, CA includes Gustave Baumann's print in
their listings.

Now that I have one message to Baren I can't send the Lefties Can Carve
exchange update until tomorrow.

Best to all
Carol L.

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Message 5
From: "Janet Warner Montgomery"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24023] RE: Gustave Baumann
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re:>He carved with a jackknife and gouge.<
I looked it up on the internet myself when a birkenstock catalog came, selling his prints. I found history, and an online gallery selling prints. (in line with the birkenstock prices) I gather he did woodcuts, I have a hard time believing he didn't use much but a penknife, knowing so many sophisticated printmakers, but hey, I wasn't there! Thanks for the info
-jan

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Message 6
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:51:32 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24024] Re: What do you call this?
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Dick Blick used to sell one. It was one that clamped onto a table. You might
inquire there. I have not seen one advertised but Dick may have one hanging
around. Worth a try.
RC

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Message 7
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:05:15 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24025] Re: calendar
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Mike thanks for your response regarding color in reduction technique. I am
in the color planning stage with this little block and wanted to be sure my
choices would give me some of what i am looking for. One interesting thing
I have found with watercolors is that when I overlay pigments the resulting
colors are different than those I mix on a palette. (I think they are more
brilliant, some how less toned down) I suspect the same will be true with
hanga and who needs over 4000 colors anyways? This will be an adventure,
thanks!
Marilynn

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Message 8
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:34:11 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24026] Re: What do you call this?
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Dave wrote:

>...What I want to find/buy/make is a kind
>of small double roller type press built the way that the old washing
>machine mangles used to be - no bed, just two rollers with a crank
>attached. I'm not going to _print_ with it, but need it for flattening
>paper _before_ starting to print.

Hello Dave,

Congratulations on the exhibition!!!!

You might be interested in a slab press of the sort potters use. It
generally has two rollers ... used for producing flat slabs of clay for
plates, etc. They should not be too hard to find and are generally pretty
cheap.

Cheers .... Charles

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Message 9
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:34:55 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24027] Re: What do you call this?
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try ebay with "laundry wringer" or just
"wringer"
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=laundry+wringer

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 10
From: Emma Jane Hogbin
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:46:22 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24028] Year of the Monkey ... the book
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for your wonderful ideas of what to do with my failed monkey
prints. I've used a number of them as end papers (collaged together) on my
first leather bound book. The front cover also has some paper that I made
a couple of months ago. The paper was made with a mould, but no deckle,
giving me a lovely wavy edge, which you can see on the cover.

http://strangelittlegirl.com/books/leather/yearofthemonkey-cover.jpg
http://strangelittlegirl.com/books/leather/yearofthemonkey-endpapers.jpg

emma :)

--
Emma Jane Hogbin
[[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]]

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Message 11
From: slinders # comcast.net
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:48:30 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24029] Re: Gustave Baumann
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"Gustave Baumann, Hand of a Craftsman", David Acton, is a lovely
book that I'd recommend.

Baumann had an extensive education. In "Hand of a Craftsman"
there are photos of his studio showing a fairly usual assortment
of cutting tools, along with other trappings of a well equipped
studio.

This book is beautifully written and illustrated, and will give
insight into his method of multiple blocked color prints. He
did not use a key block. The book is especially useful in
showing his experimentation proofs, with ink in varying
transparency and colors as they print together. Great detail is
shown of his work from sketch to finality of "Grand Canyon",
1919.

The title refers to his "mark" on his prints of the heart/hand
in his signature. Also recommended is "Gustave Baumann, Nearer
to Art".
-Sharen

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Message 12
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:08:26 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24030] LPE II
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LARGE PRINT EXCHANGE II people: The following message was sent to all
those currently signed up for LPE II, however, two messages were
returned as undeliverable - Dimitris Grammatikopulos & Jean Eger
Womack. Apparently I do not have your current addresses. Here's the
message:

Hello Fellow Large Print Exchange II folks,

Eegads, can you believe it? Your large prints are due to be in my
studio in roughly 28 days! I hope you are all plugging away and almost
ready to ship! Any questions can be answered, I hope, at
http://www.rst-art.com/lpe.htm#LPE-2. If not, you have my address -
drop me a line. Please let us all know if you have to drop out so
people will send the correct number of prints for the exchange.

Can't wait to wrestle those prints!

Sharri

PS Please send me your current address to ensure that next time we can
keep these correspondences just between us folks.

BTW - if the current list holds up we will need editions of 21 prints.
If this changes I'll let you know, but puheeze, if you must drop out,
let me know asap so that those organized folks who are going to be on
time can print the correct number and won't have to pay postage back &
forth for unnecessary weight. Thank you - you are all wonderful!

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Message 13
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:45:12 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24031] LPE II
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It just occurred to me to caution everyone to be sure to go to the
website Rudolf maintains ( http://www.rst-art.com/lpe.htm ) and check
the list before printing and mailing your package for the LPE II
exchange. The number is changing daily and is now down to 20.



Sharri

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Message 14
From: Catherine Dreiss
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:52:57 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Baren 24032] Re: What do you call this?
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Dave wrote:
>...I'm not going to _print_ with it, but need it for flattening
>paper _before_ starting to print.

Your question leads me to a question I've been meaning to ask the teaming multitude. I have heard printmakers talk about "calendaring" their paper before printing. I think that is the word, but I couldn't find it in the archive. It has to do with stretching paper before doing a multi-place or black print in a press. If one stretches paper out to its max, then registration remains more accurate with each successive plate.

Does anyone do this? Can you tell me what I need to do? I am about to start printing a six-color 3 x 4 woodblock on an etching press.

Thanks,
Caye

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Message 15
From: "Richard Farrel"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:19:44 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
Subject: [Baren 24033] Re: What do you call this?
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Dave....
regarding your post ... I do not think you will find this on the market.
But if you look for rolling mills or jewelry or metalsmithing (gold?) you may get
some ideas to design what you need. These mills would not work because of small size
grease ect. They are quite simple in design, two rollers with a center screw mechanism
to adjust the top roller for the required pressure.

Try http://www.contenti.com

if you like contact me directly at rafar(at)telus.net

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Message 16
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:30:06 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24034] Japanese monkey ecards and misc. kudos
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Dear Bareners

Here are some cute Japanese Year of The Monkey ecard clips!

http://www.mcnet.com.hk/ecard/12monkeyX.swf

http://www.annualecard.tsmc.com.tw/inet/harmonyl.swf


Secondly, I just finished drooling over my #18a (8"sq.) Exchange. Oh my
goodness...I'm very pleased with all of them. What beautiful beautiful
art from our souls. A round of applause for Gilda.....Super job!

""""And to everyone behind the Baren scenes who make everything love and
care about happen."""""

Carol Lyons and Sharen Linders (and anyone else I might have missed)
thank you for the information about Gustave Baumann. I hadn't viewed
his work in a long time and I found a really great weblink:
http://tinyurl.com/2c8gu
a short link for "Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco"

Again, showing appreciation for all of Julio's hard work on the
calendars. Julio, I hope you don't get tired of us thanking you,
because you deserve it. No blushing, now.

Well, its back to my woodblock.

Enjoy the monkey cards. You'll get my real one too.

Here's your haiku for the day.....

old clam,
your haven a pendant
near my heart

b'oki.
2004copyright

(at Venice Beach, FL I pick up all the clam shell fossils. Usually they
have a hole drilled in them compliments of a Moon Snail. Natures gifts.
I bet Jeanne Chase has some too!)

Warmly,
Bette Wappner

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Message 17
From: JMartin906 # aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:37:11 EST
Subject: [Baren 24035] thanks for the update
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Julio,

Thanks for explaining what's going on with the calendars. I'll keep waiting
patiently.

Suzi

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Message 18
From: Shireen Holman
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:23:31 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24036] monkeys
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Hello everyone - this would be a great addition to our monkey cards; check
it out.
www.shireenholman.com/goyamonkey.htm
Shireen

***********************************************
Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist
email: shireen@shireenholman.com
http://www.shireenholman.com
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Message 19
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:19:15 EST
Subject: [Baren 24037] Re: What do you call this?
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dave
i think speedball has the type of press youre looking for
georga

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Message 20
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:07:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24038] Re: What do you call this?
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Catherine,
If you use dry paper it is not necessary, with damp paper it will keep the paper the same size if you prestretch it. This means you dampen it and then run it through the press and then print with it. I have not found it too necessary, only if you are doing really really large prints and have lots of blocks or plates to register. I would not bother prestreching it with such a small block. If it is 3x4 feet, that is another story...
Barbara

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