Today's postings

  1. [Baren 23988] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle (Mike Lyon)
  2. [Baren 23989] Re: a question about barens (Mike Lyon)
  3. [Baren 23990] Practise paper/please read and answer (Barbara Mason)
  4. [Baren 23991] Re: Practise paper (Mike Lyon)
  5. [Baren 23992] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle (Charles Morgan)
  6. [Baren 23993] Re: shunga exchange (Darrell Madis)
  7. [Baren 23994] dumb question ("marilynn smih")
  8. [Baren 23995] Re: Practise paper/please read and answer (Consoft # aol.com)
  9. [Baren 23996] wow ("Maria Arango")
  10. [Baren 23997] Re: Plywood, black ink and priming. (Catherine Dreiss)
  11. [Baren 23998] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle (b.patera # att.net)
  12. [Baren 23999] maria's trip (Cucamongie # aol.com)
  13. [Baren 24000] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle ("Kristine Alder")
  14. [Baren 24001] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V26 #2522 (Jan 25, 2004) ("aimee")
  15. [Baren 24002] shunga solution (FurryPressII # aol.com)
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Message 1
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:12:57 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23988] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle
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Maria Arango wrote:
>Okay, one more crazy probable-possible idear: in 2005ish I'm planning a
>summer road trip through the West and Midwest. I plan to do a
>collaborative series of prints where I travel to various printmaker's
>studios and design/carve, perhaps even print a print in situ while I'm
>there. Y'all let me know if you're game to be on the route, put me up for
>a couple of days (3' x 6' space on the floor will do) and I will start
>sort of planning my trip. No, really, won't that be fun? I can make a web
>log as I go and upload pics and everything, it will be the greatest
>printmaking adventure of all. And it's tax deductible too!

Absolutely YES! Let's do it in Kansas City. Linda and I will actually
provide you a real bed, bath, and beyond... It'll be FUN!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com
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Message 2
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:45:57 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23989] Re: a question about barens
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georga wrote:
>im looking at purchasing a baren from the baren mall i cant afford the
>handmade ones and i have no interest in learning how to replace the
>bamboo sheath on the other ones so im thinking of the ball bearing
>barens my dilema is i dont know which one to get i want to use it for
>moku hanga any recommendations???????

I'd recommend either the type 'C' (finer and easier running) or the new
Korokoro (which I am ordering one of right now!) which looks good to me for
$127 instead of $218, but I haven't tried this one (the type 'C' is a good
tool and works very well, though it's much coarser (more likely to produce
baren-suji) than the 13 cm Murasaki medium for $117 (but you'll have to
replace covers on the Murasaki regularly, I'm afraid)...

Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com
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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:47:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 23990] Practise paper/please read and answer
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Steve and all,
This is a good question...can everyone on the baren send me their experience with the various papers and I will compile a list for all about these papers and how you like them?
I have not used any except the Yamaguchi paper and it is a bit spendy to learn on, although Dave would disagree, feeling that you need to use the best in order to really learn. I have used Masa, Mulberry, hosho and of course the Yamaguchi paper. The Masa is marginal but works, the mulberry is fair, the hosho if better, the Yamaguchi is great.
Lets get more info in here for those starting out. I know MIke has used lots of different papers, but I failed to keep a post he made a few months ago. I promise to compile a good little cheat sheet here for anyone who wants it. Send me info.....
thanks to all who reply and you can send it off list if you wish.
Barbara/mall manager
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Message 4
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:00:52 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23991] Re: Practise paper
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Steve wrote:
>Apologies for sending two emails today. I'd be very grateful if someone
>could suggest a suitable practise paper for a beginner in japanese
>woodblock prining from Baren Mall.

Try "New Hosho" (#23 at http://www.barenforum.org/mall/products/paper.php )
It's a decent paper and relatively inexpensive at $8.25 for approximately 6
square foot sheet (2' x 3')... Good for printing and cheap enough for
practice, I think.

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com
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Message 5
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 07:38:28 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23992] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle
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Depending on the scheduling (we may be out of town ourselves), if you make
it to Victoria, we could probably even clean out the spare room for you ...
a little more than 3' x 6' ... ;-)}}}

Cheers ..... Charles
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Message 6
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:48:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 23993] Re: shunga exchange
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I will be priority mailing mine today or tomorrow at the latest so they should arrive before the Feb. 1 deadline.
BTW I'm not signing mine [embarassed]--was a consensus ever reached on anonymity for the exchange display on the Baren website?
Darrell Madis
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Message 7
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:07:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23994] dumb question
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OK, here goes the dumb question. I have done hanga and worked on one at the
summit. But i did not bring my notes on setting up registration with me
and well to be honest i have not been carving. I have been decorating and
painting! So now I have 2 watercolors to choose from and some wood here.
The enclyclopedia is grand but it does not say how much space I need for my
kento. So do i leave about a quarter inch all around and than another inch
at the bottom for the center registration area that is slanted toward the
design? How much space should I leave around the design so I do not have
the paper getting mucky around the design and yet hold it from the
background.

Maria sounds like you have a lot of invitations. Mine did not include a
bedroom because I am not sure our house will be finished. But my studio has
a wonderful view - the largerst fresh water estuary on the pacific
coastline. We also have the pacific ocean a mile away and you will get to
view the mighty columbia river if you come to my peninsula hide out. I have
a press and ink and plenty of scenery to offer. I am in Washington, but it
will not be a straight shot up to BC from here, but the back roads offer
scenery of their own.
marilynn

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Message 8
From: Consoft # aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:11:19 EST
Subject: [Baren 23995] Re: Practise paper/please read and answer
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Barbara,

That's a great idea you have. It's very difficult to choose from so many
different available papers.

One problem I find is the paper names. I found a supplier of japanese papers
in England and some of the names in their list match those listed in Baren
Mall but the prices are very different. Some times much more expensive and
sometimes cheaper. So much so that I can't believe that they refer to the same
paper. Also there are similar looking names. For example Kojo and Koju. Are
they the same?

Cheers

Steve
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Message 9
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:25:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23996] wow
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Wowwieee!!!

Thank you all who sent invitations in response to my road-trip ditty. I
am keeping all of them in a special folder and will give some thought to
my route. As for dates, I don't have any yet, all depends on soooo many
things. But the trip is set and the idea is taking shape. My thougths is
that I can bring blocks and paper and do some sort of a "sense of
(printmaker's) place" theme piece with every one of you in a
collaborative arrangement. Then I would bind all the prints in a book
and it would be like a diary of the trip to be sent to each participant
after the trip is over. Cool, huh?

Anyhow, thanks for the warm invites! So far it looks like quite a
trip...if I hit all the places I'd be on the road for months :-)


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA
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Message 10
From: Catherine Dreiss
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:28:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 23997] Re: Plywood, black ink and priming.
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>One question for Caye. You mentioned about priming plywood. Does priming have a particular
>meaning in the context of wood block printing? Over here the term is used in house decorating
>to refer to a particular kind of paint which is used to seal wood before over painting with gloss

Sorry it took me so long to reply - I didn't get to check email this weekend. In my studio, priming my birch ply has the exact same meaning as in house decorating --- because I use the same primer for both! I guess the only difference is that I sand the primer down and sometimes do more than one coat. I used to use gesso until I realized that there was no difference in the results and the cost was more.

Have fun!

Caye

Catherine Dreiss
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Message 11
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:46:07 +0000
Subject: [Baren 23998] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle
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Hey Maria,

When you say west keep Washington in mind .... would be nice to meet you.
Also think about the Pacific Northwest Fair.... it's in Bellevue, Wa and the
jurying is, I believe, sometime next month. Used to be a great show.... and
you could use our house as a base.

Regards,
Barbara patera
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Message 12
From: Cucamongie # aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Baren 23999] maria's trip
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well, Maria, if you decide to come East... unfortunately I can't provide a place to stay as Jeffrey, Garbanzo the cat and I barely fit in our apt with all the woodblocks... but I'd love to meet for CAWFEE and/or studio visit or whatever!
best,
Sarah
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Message 13
From: "Kristine Alder"
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:23:20 -0700
Subject: [Baren 24000] Re: exchssssssssss and puzzle
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You are welcome here in Northern Utah anytime Maria, and of course any other Bareners out there! Would love to have you drop in and print a spell...plenty of space so accommodations of course would be provided.
Kris

<^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^> Kristine Alder
Logan, UT
Art Educator/Printmaker/Book Artist/Graphic Design

email: kalder@preston.k12.id.us
imakeprints@hotmail.com
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Message 14
From: "aimee"
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:35:45 -0900
Subject: [Baren 24001] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V26 #2522 (Jan 25, 2004)
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hey, maria, if you make it to b.c., well heck--another 900 miles or so
north, and you're in gustavus! of course, you'll have to leave your car in
juneau---unless it's amphibian---hmm, now there's a market for all those
folks who forgot to buy a hummer...

hey, monkey-minded bareners--mine's cut, going to start printing tomorrow.
thanks for all the fine ones that have come in--i have five so far.

and david--that looks like a great show you're having! and it sounds like
you're enjoying it-- as it should be!congratulations and best
regards------aimee
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Message 15
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:03:24 EST
Subject: [Baren 24002] shunga solution
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a way to keep the anonymous vs named prints seperate -- I will put the names on
the colophone but no names should be posted on the baren web site when the
prints are listed.

john center