Today's postings
- [Baren 23526] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V25 #2465 (Dec 6, 2003) (Sharri LaPierre)
- [Baren 23527] Carol's question (Steve Goddard)
Message 1
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:14:54 -0800
Subject: [Baren 23526] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V25 #2465 (Dec 6, 2003)
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Carol,
An assistant only helps you, they do not do the work for you! Usually,
they act as clean hands for putting the paper down on the block or
plate, or if its a large print, they are the extra two hands you needed
to be born with in order to get the paper down on the block or plate.
They also generally help with clean up, changing blotters, preparing
paper, sometimes with mixing or stretching more ink, things like that.
They are generally employed in the printing, not the carving or
etching, or making of the image.
On the other hand, a collaboration with a Master Printer is a horse of
a different color. There are as many variables to that animal as there
are animals. Most of the time the artist makes the image on the plate,
block or stone, and the MP processes the plate or stone, I guess
sometimes they help with the carving of the block, I've never worked on
woodblock with a MP, so I don't know. And, then they do the printing,
but you are there through the process until you get the look you want.
It is a collaboration - two people working together. It is not
necessarily an easier way to work, just a different way.
It is funny to hear all the criticism of prints not completely done by
the artist. Most of the antique prints were not completely done by the
artist - for example, Durer, Rembrandt, Goya, Picasso, Cassatt, Roualt,
Beckman, and just about anyone in the Art History Book, not to mention
all those wonderful Japanese prints - So, are all those prints any
less because they were not wholly done from start to finish by the
artist? Not imho, but then, that is just mho. :-)
Cheers,
Sharri
An assistant only helps you, they do not do the work for you! Usually,
they act as clean hands for putting the paper down on the block or
plate, or if its a large print, they are the extra two hands you needed
to be born with in order to get the paper down on the block or plate.
They also generally help with clean up, changing blotters, preparing
paper, sometimes with mixing or stretching more ink, things like that.
They are generally employed in the printing, not the carving or
etching, or making of the image.
On the other hand, a collaboration with a Master Printer is a horse of
a different color. There are as many variables to that animal as there
are animals. Most of the time the artist makes the image on the plate,
block or stone, and the MP processes the plate or stone, I guess
sometimes they help with the carving of the block, I've never worked on
woodblock with a MP, so I don't know. And, then they do the printing,
but you are there through the process until you get the look you want.
It is a collaboration - two people working together. It is not
necessarily an easier way to work, just a different way.
It is funny to hear all the criticism of prints not completely done by
the artist. Most of the antique prints were not completely done by the
artist - for example, Durer, Rembrandt, Goya, Picasso, Cassatt, Roualt,
Beckman, and just about anyone in the Art History Book, not to mention
all those wonderful Japanese prints - So, are all those prints any
less because they were not wholly done from start to finish by the
artist? Not imho, but then, that is just mho. :-)
Cheers,
Sharri
Message 2
From: Steve Goddard
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:09:00 -0600
Subject: [Baren 23527] Carol's question
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Hi Carol,
I'll bet the woodcuts you saw were H.C. Westermann's "Connecticut Ballroom
Suite" -- even if not these are worth looking at. We have some really
wonderful things by this artist including this suite -- note the spelling
"barren" http://www.ku.edu/~sma/westerm/sp009f.jpg
Steve
I'll bet the woodcuts you saw were H.C. Westermann's "Connecticut Ballroom
Suite" -- even if not these are worth looking at. We have some really
wonderful things by this artist including this suite -- note the spelling
"barren" http://www.ku.edu/~sma/westerm/sp009f.jpg
Steve