Baren Digest Sunday, 13 August 2000 Volume 12 : Number 1112 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:37:12 EDT Subject: [Baren 10911] Re: Yellow halo on prints In a message dated 8/11/00 10:10:28 AM Central Daylight Time, studiojnc@prodigy.net writes: <> For etching ink you use burnt plate oil, I believe also for block print ink. If you are using tube oil paints you might have to remove some of the oil on blotting paper before using, as commercial paints almost always have too much oil. I think burnt plate oil does not creep out into the paper like that. Excess oil, especially linseed oil, eventually rots the paper and makes it brittle, not to mention the discoloration. Darrell .................. Arts Madis http://members.aol.com/artsmadis/index.htm.htm 70 pages so far .................... ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:36:07 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10912] Re: Yellow halo on prints charset="iso-8859-1" Darrell I have been using Winsor Newton painting medium, it says "non yellowing" so thought it was safe. Also am using Rembrandt Relief Paint. I use #00 burnt plate oil for etching so maybe that is what I should use for the woodblocks too. Just trying to use up all of my paints for painting on canvas. I did use some of the oil paint and did notice severe halo effect on the paper so put away my canvas painting oils for awhile. I will use the burnt plate oil, also have a heavy plate oil. ??? Jeanne Thanks Darrell ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:27:33 EDT Subject: [Baren 10913] Re: Yellow halo on prints In a message dated 8/11/00 11:35:52 AM Central Daylight Time, studiojnc@prodigy.net writes: << I will use the burnt plate oil, also have a heavy plate oil. ??? >> I guess heavy or light is ok. I think it's probably a mistake to add too much oil to print ink. It thins it, makes it less dense and dark. I've never seen an explanation of the way heavy or light burnt oil added to ink affect it's properties, have to just experiment to see if you like the results, I suppose. I know adding oil makes the ink looser and easier to wipe in etching. Darrell ................... Arts Madis http://members.aol.com/artsmadis/index.htm.htm 70 pages so far .................... ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:34:28 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10914] Re: Highlighting the woodgrain charset="iso-8859-1" Jan She is now printing the "Humor In Life" for portfolio # 7. I like that, not going to be a late one!!!! Look forward to seeing it. I think the first one in, should win some kind of a prize!!! Jeanne and Dan Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum your # 7 coordinators. ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:05:01 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10915] Re: riddle >Answer > >http://www.rst-art.com/pinotbas.htm > >Rudolf Say that is one hell of a print !!!! Such fine details. Wonderful bokashi. That red flower is a touch of genius..... Gutsy move to centre it. (<: Graham ------------------------------ From: Blouin Danielle Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:33:55 -0500 Subject: [Baren 10916] Re: Yellow halo on prints Dear Jeanne, it's mostly because your paper is too tin to receive this oily charge, one of the way to remedy to it, its to use a blotter and let stand your oil colour on it during the night so the next morning you just pick your colour and all the oil will be drunk by the blotter or an old telephone book. If it's too tick after this, I use the Daniel Smith Flash oil 470, which make your colour extended but not oily, this product is evaporating before it dry on the copy. Danielle (sorry for my english...) ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:39:23 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10917] #7 print Boy, how do you print a hundred ideas? I have been proofing the image I want to use for this exchange, that's why all the questions about ink and wood raising. Gave up on the wood raising, guess I shouldn't use Poplar, no grain at all! As for the Aqua Kolor, am going to give it another shot tonight. No press, baren only. Might try the brush technique, sounds like fun although the fellow at the art store didn't have a clue what I was talking about. For all those in the Sacred Tree thingy, I am going to print about 50 or more for this exchange. Oh yeah, my image is going to be a reduction block, 3 to 5 colors on Poplar. Image is ,well, I promise it will bring a smile to your face and allow me to stay in my genre (is that right?) Oh well, off to the printing room (my kitchen counter) hot and sticky in Tampa Tweedle Dee (I ain't gonna be the other one) ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:46:31 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10918] shoot, darn, drats, boo hoo ignore most of my previous post, just dawned on me to check the dimensions of this exchange and my reduction is too big!!! :-( Oh well, back to the drawing board. I'll just use one of the other ideas. dan dew ------------------------------ From: Lynita Shimizu Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:22:00 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10919] Web Page Through the combined efforts of two of my three sons, I now have a web page. If you are interested, the URL is: http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html Hope you enjoy it. Lynita ------------------------------ From: Artsmadis@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:37:28 EDT Subject: [Baren 10920] Re: Web Page In a message dated 8/11/00 7:25:43 PM Central Daylight Time, shimizu@mail1.nai.net writes: < Through the combined efforts of two of my three sons, I now have a web page. If you are interested, the URL is: http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html Hope you enjoy it. Lynita > Really nice. It is easy to see that the world of nature is important to you. I believe I like Common Grackles and Cheung Chau Island the best. Charming pictures. Darrell ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:33:37 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10921] Re: Web Page Awesome prints!!!! But where is the price and ordering info? dan dew ------------------------------ From: Gary Luedtke Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:10:58 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10922] Web Page charset=ISO-8859-1 Enjoyed your web-page very much, Lynita. Particularly the way you give= so much charming character to living things, be it birds, frogs, cows, or= people. Very nice! Thanks! Gary = KC ------------------------------ From: "john ryrie" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:01:39 +1000 Subject: [Baren 10923] blow torch charset="iso-8859-1" This talk of blow torches reminds me of some experiments that I was doing as a student in 1982. I had been doing photographic lino cuts and thought I could fined a way of doing a photographic wood cut. What I did was to screen print the photo onto the wood using fire proof paint, (the type you paint pot belly stoves with) then berne the un-coated parts with a blow torch. It didn't work, no mater how much many coats of the stuff I printed on it was not thick enough to protect the wood from the flame. Maybe NASA have come up with something since that would work better. One of the many Baren members who are also rocket scientists could maybe let me know. Otherwise this could go into the Encyclopaedia section on woodcut techniques to avoid. John Q: why did the kangaroo cross the road. A: the chicken was on her lunch brake. http://www.geocities.com/laddertree ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:36:57 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10924] Re: Web Page >http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html >Hope you enjoy it. > Lynita, Your work is 1st rate. The use of texture woodgrain reminds me of Kiyoshi Saito who uses wood patterns as well as many other textures. Also his design and abstract approach is masterful as is yours. After seeing his work and finding out a bit about him I sure admire him. The exhibition at the Art Gallery of Greater Victoria was fabulous. I would be interesting to know who your idols or influences are. Are you doing hanga or oil base and press work.? Regards Graham ------------------------------ From: Shireen Holman Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:56:56 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10925] Re: Yellow halo on prints At 11:10 AM 8/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >This is from an "oily" printmaker. After I run my prints, using oil paint a >faint yellow halo creeps around the print. Very distracting. I am used to >painting on canvas and so I never had that problem. But now that I am doing >prints this is happening. What kind of oil, burnt plate oil, linseed oil, >whatever .do you use to thin your paint out to a nice consistency without >causing the halo???? Jeanne, The problem may be because of using oil paint and oil. If you use printing ink and don't use any oil, you shouldn't have that problem. I think oil paints have much more oil in them than printing ink, and although the inks are oil based, they are not 'oily'. Shireen *********************************************** Shireen Holman, Printmaker and Book Artist email: shireenh@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~shireenh/ *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: Graham Scholes Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:36:57 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10926] Re: Web Page >http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html >Hope you enjoy it. Lynita, Your work is 1st rate. The use of texture woodgrain reminds me of Kiyoshi Saito who uses wood patterns as well as many other textures. Also his design and abstract approach is masterful as is yours. After seeing his work and finding out a bit about him I sure admire him. The exhibition at the Art Gallery of Greater Victoria was fabulous. I would be interesting to know who your idols or influences are. Are you doing hanga or oil base and press work.? Regards Graham ------------------------------ From: Andrea Cuchetto (Dega) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:15:01 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10927] Re: Web Page Lynita: Your website is most impressive. Your work alone is grand, but, the design makes it smashing. You and your sons did a fine job. I am so inspired! Thank you. Sincerely, Andrea Little Rock, AR - ---- On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Lynita Shimizu (shimizu@mail1.nai.net) wrote: > Through the combined efforts of two of my three sons, Inow have a web > page. If you are interested, the URL is: > http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html >Hope you enjoy it. > >Lynita ------------------------------ From: slinder@mediaone.net Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:38:00 -0500 Subject: [Baren 10928] Re: Web Page Lynita, What a wonderful webpage! NOW I understand how you are able to relate that special quality in your bird images! What an massistant! Beautiful prints, and a great visual explanation of woodblock printing! Sharen Lynita Shimizu wrote: > Through the combined efforts of two of my three sons, I now have a web > page. If you are interested, the URL is: > http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html > Hope you enjoy it. > > Lynita > ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:50:06 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10929] Re: blow torch john ryrie wrote: > Maybe NASA have come up with something since that would work better. > One of the many Baren members who are also rocket scientists could maybe let > me know. Not a rocket scientist - but: I tried the blow torch method on a recent woodcut. I think it was moderately successful. When I showed the print to a fellow printmaker, and described the method I used (covering the parts I didn't want torched with a metal plumbing tape - which had flammable glue underneath!) he said to go to a pottery/ceramic store in our area ("Georgie's" in Portland, Oregon, USA) & tell them I needed a heat> ------------------------------ From: "John and Michelle Morrell" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:29:54 -0800 Subject: [Baren 10931] Sitting in a Retail Establishment with Very Few Customers (Baren #1109) charset="iso-8859-1" B Mason wrote: I seem to be a person of major over-committment, which cuts into my art time in a big way. I am constantly behind in my creating and today I was sitting in the gallery in Portland with only 7 people in six hours coming in. One of these was the mail man and one was my sister, so that makes 5 cutsomers. I had a lot of time to think about priorities. I think one reason I get so busy that I have limited time in the studio is fear of actually creating work that I like or that I think is worthwhile. I do not sell my work as a living so that motivation is missing. When I am out working it is wonderful and I ask myself why I don't make it my most important priority. The only answer that keeps coming up is I am afraid I won't be able to create. Barbara-- This is so reminiscent to me of when my father was dying and I was doing co-op duty and trying to carve out a wood engraving that I had suddenly lost all taste for. Sometimes it's better not to force yourselt to create. Still, even now that I am "out working" and have so little time for the studio, at night I have dreams of painting something new and fantastic that inspires all the delightful feelings I had when my daughter was born and one of my husbands co-workers sent me a bouquet and I became suddenly aware of how wonderous cut flowers were, especially baby's breath. I don't really have any comments for you except to say that now is probably not a good time for you to set your priorities, and I am sorry for your loss. <^><^><^><^><^><^> Michelle Morrell jmmorrell@gci.net <^><^><^><^><^><^> ------------------------------ From: Lynita Shimizu Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:17:21 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10932] Re: Web Page Whew! I'm so relieved my kids knew what they were doing in making that web page. Now if they could just teach their mom how to do it. Thanks for your kind comments. To answer a few questions, the prints are not all recent ones but actually cover a span of about 20 years. The common factor in selecting the prints was that they could fit into our scanner in one swoop. The bigger prints are still in drawers or on the walls. Graham and Wanda, Kiyoshi Saito is my absolute favorite artist. I saw two of his shows in Tokyo in the early 80's and whenever I'm stuck for inspiration, go back and pour over two worn catalogs from those shows. (You two are sharp!) I used "Seaswirl", a douglas fir plywood from McClains, for the woodgrain in many prints (such as the chickens) but for environmental reasons, that wood is no longer being harvested. Lauan plywood is useful for an even, straight-grained texture. In the cow print, I used lauan for the woodgrain in the posts and beams... cutting two blocks, not for different colors, but for different grain directions. And Graham, I'm totally a mokuhanga person. During college years I concentrated on acrylics and watercolor ... didn't like printmaking at all then as we had to stay up all night if we wanted to use the press. I still enjoy doing watercolors but like the feeling of control and the closeness to materials that one gets with hanga. Dan, I don't think I'm ready to sell on-line yet. At this point I'm working to keep up with local demand. After a show and whenever possible, I like to drag my customers to my house to pick up their prints so I can show them how its done. Now I'm preparing for a two-county "Open Studio Weekends" that is held annually in late autumn. Maybe when the third son heads off to college ... Sharen, My bird assistant was a baby blue jay I rescued from the road one summer. In that photo I'm holding the knife in a rather strange way to avoid getting a feathered texture in the print. Sorry to ramble on so much about myself. Thanks for your kind support! Lynita http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html ------------------------------ From: "Ittai Altshuler" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:19:30 +0300 Subject: [Baren 10933] Re: Web Page - thanks charset="iso-8859-8-i" Lynita, Amazing works with full sensitivity to color and pureness of shape a great leasson of wood cut making thanks deeply Ittai - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynita Shimizu To: Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:22 AM Subject: [Baren 10919] Web Page > Through the combined efforts of two of my three sons, I now have a web > page. If you are interested, the URL is: > http://homepage.mac.com/mokuhanga/woodblock/index.html > Hope you enjoy it. > > Lynita > > ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:44:24 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10934] Re: Yellow halo on prints charset="iso-2022-jp" Danielle Thanks for the advice re; the yellow halo on my prints. I will try the Flash oil 470 but if I lay out the oil colors on blotter paper or the phone book, won't the oil paint have a thick skin on it by the next morning? Jeanne N. ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V12 #1111 ***************************** ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:41:40 EDT Subject: [Baren 10936] Akua Color Akua Color is a a type of non toxic waterbased printing ink developed by a NY printmaker named Susan Rostow, it's wonderful stuff and can be used for not only woodblock (both western rollup process and hanga) but monoprinting and other types of printing processes. I'd be happy to give you any more info you like if you have specific questions best wishes Sarah Hauser Cucamongie@aol.com In a message dated 00-08-12 09:05:35 EDT, Jan wrote << What is Aqua Kolor? I have never seen it or heard of it before. >> ------------------------------ From: Cucamongie@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:48:00 EDT Subject: [Baren 10937] Lynita's prints Lynita's work is indeed lovely, we have done sort of our own private print exchange (I did several prints of her fabulous doggie Penny and she sent me a package of her prints) so I am happy to be able to not only see some of her prints "in person" but have them up in my apartment - great feeling, color, texture, etc etc etc!!! best to all, Sarah Cucamongie@aol.com ------------------------------ From: LEAFRUTH@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:03:47 EDT Subject: [Baren 10938] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1111 Jeanne, You are probably using a heavy oil or too much oil. I use raw linseed oil and or safflower oil which is very thin if you need an oilier ink. Ruth http://www.ruthleaf.com ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:12:25 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10940] Re: Web Page charset="iso-8859-1" Lynita What a wonderful group of woodblock prints. Love the way you let the wood speak. Also keep everything so simple and clean. Yes, sons are nice. If it were not for mine I would not have a web page either. I am glad that we can see your work now. Keep up the wonderful work. I do so love your birds, as I am a real bird watcher. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: James G Mundie Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:33:59 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10941] SwapShop images available for viewing Roll up, roll up! Step right this way, folks! What I am about to show you will astound and amaze! Why is that, you say? Well, I'll tell you... After several long months of waiting and wondering; after finally getting enough material but your dear coordinator was too busy to deal with it; after finding the time but having an uncooperative scanner; and after having the images made viewable through the good graces of a kind gentleman in the furthest reaches of the Pacific rim... The first set of [Baren] SwapShop images are ready to be seen, to be unveiled before your very own disbelieving eyes -- gathered together from the far corners of the globe to beautify and instruct! Now, now, no need to shove, folks. If you would be so kind, step over to http://woodblock.com/forum/swapshop/intro.html. There before you will be the very images you seek. Now, if you like what you see (and who wouldn't?), you too can be a part of this. Just head on over to http://woodblock.com/forum/swapshop/index.html to find out how. ~ James Mundie, [Baren] SwapShop coordinator ------------------------------ From: Blouin Danielle Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:38:50 -0500 Subject: [Baren 10943] Re: Yellow halo on prints <200008112126.GAA18590@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> <200008121239.VAA39040@ml.asahi-net.or.jp> Dear Jeanne, you could put a Saran wrap on it or just spray a "ink ready" (the kind of stuff that don't make your ink dry in the can with a skin) or a plastic pot on it (yoghourt one's). I'm sometime more drastic with the ink when I have to print thick etching on tin paper, I mix the flash oil to the ink before going on the blotter so it dilute the oil and go on the blotter more radicaly. Certainly than the printmaking colour are superior to oil painting color for printmaking, but initially intaglio was meaning "peinture en creux", I remember russian artists that we were working with and they were sending their print (marvelous one's) printed with shoes polish... They didn't have any ink in the country for their personnal use. All the best, Danielle ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:56:11 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10944] Re: Yellow halo on prints charset="iso-2022-jp" Gee, it is fantastic to be on Baren. I received so many replies to my "yellow halo" problem that I am willing to try them all. Thanks all, to Darrell, Ruth, Barbara and all others. But Danielle, I do not think that I am ready to print with shoe polish yet. Still have lots of ink, etching and relief. Will just save the regular oils for further easel painting. If I can print with shoe polish, can I polish my shoes with oil paint???? Kidding, just kidding. Have a wonderful weekend !!!!! Now I am going to visit the Swap Shop. Have some prints on their way, James, on Monday. Jeanne N. ------------------------------ From: Vollmer/Yamaguchi Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:35:14 -0400 Subject: [Baren 10945] scans, ink and travel Lynita, nice to see more of your work, I especially like your grackle, so simple and quirky. Surely you did scans in 2 parts, as some of the images are 16". Scanning a large print isn't hard, you make one half with a feathered edge, make it transparent and move it over the first into the right position. You can do it with four pieces but it gets a little tricky.... Jeanne, I've used litho ink a lot for woodcuts, it dries slowly, where ink designed for woodcut has varnish in it, so gets a skin on it. Both roll out nicely. Using oil paint seems penny wise and pound foolish, as you spend so much valuable time on your prints! Who asked? Dan? Akua color rolls up ON THE PLATE for monoprint. It rolls up very smoothly, better than oil rolls, with fewer marks from the roller. And putting it directly on an acrylic plate saves a lot of ink. It IS pretty transparent, which I sort of like. And non-toxic, water clean-up. Time to pack up again, I can't believe my baren supply is getting such a workout. I'm off to Horizons tomorrow to teach yet another class! I must slow down, so I have more time in the studio. I enjoy it, but this summer has been over filled with teaching. I am hoping to cut some new blocks while I'm there, though. No computer for a week! April Vollmer 174 Eldridge St, NYC 10002, 212-677-5691 http://www.aprilvollmer.com ------------------------------ From: baren_member@woodblock.com (Judy Mensch) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Baren 10946] Akua Color Message posted by: Judy Mensch To find out more about Akua Kolor you can also email Susan at: wb-inks@att.net These inks are great. Susan created them to be non-toxic and were origional made for monoprints, but, as Sarah said, they can be used for many print mediums. Susan's web site for Akua Kolor is: www.waterbasedinks.com Judy ------------------------------ From: "Jean Eger" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:02:07 -0700 Subject: [Baren 10947] Lynita's web site charset="iso-8859-1" Lynita, Congratulaions to you and your sons on a very warm and elegant web site. The images load up quickly and the color is rich. The design is interesting and thoughtfully created. The foreshortened gouge really catches the attention! Your prints are so classic and beautiful! I printed some out so I could see how they look on paper. Thanks for sharing it all with us! Jean Eger ------------------------------ From: Studio Dalwood Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:32:52 +1000 Subject: [Baren 10949] Highlighting the woodgrain Jeanne said >Jan She is now printing the "Humor In Life" for portfolio # 7. I like that, not going to be a late one!!!! Jan is probably too modest to mention why she is working ahead like this. Her daughter is competing in the Sydney Olympics in gymnastics and Jan will be travelling across the continent to be with her next month. We are all eagerly awaiting her visit as we are planning a Sydney get together. Josephine ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V12 #1112 *****************************