Today's postings

  1. [Baren 44646] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet? (key sevn)
  2. [Baren 44647] re:5819 Home sizing paper (Andrew Stone)
  3. [Baren 44648] location of Japanese Papermakers (Carole Dwinell)
  4. [Baren 44649] Re:5819 Home sizing paper (Barbara Mason)
  5. [Baren 44650] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet? (key sevn)
  6. [Baren 44651] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet? (Barbara Mason)
  7. [Baren 44652] Thank you, Bareners (Pinto Lawrence)
  8. [Baren 44653] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: key sevn
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:22:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44646] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet?
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@I have no idea how the pros handle such large sheets ...

I think the answer is in fabric process of sizing paper. They should make
another "How it's made" episode about machine making japanese paper.
I was thinking about it and choose atomiser, but it could also be dipping.
cheers
Olek.
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Message 2
From: Andrew Stone
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:48:04 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44647] re:5819 Home sizing paper
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Thanks for the advice.

I am planning on sizing a test batch--in this case 2 sheets each of 2 different papers cut in half so I'll have just 8 sheets about 28 X 40cm to cover. And I may try half the alum on the first 4 and the rest on the latter but as this is my first go maybe I'll take Dave's advice and use a weaker recipe. I have been using recently some New Hosho and it has lots of sparkle (too much alum) and the Nishinouchi I used recently seemed to have been sized badly and with very weak size (lots of bald spots). So I'll give it a go. I am planning a print that will have multiple overprintings and a mottled background and I wan't to see if I can size it adequately to suffice as the paper is locally available and my labor is cheaper than shipping another batch of already sized paper over here (which is plan B).
I expect I'll see the brush marks as my brush is only about 17cm in size even If I can manage to get the paper evenly sized
So I'll probably just mix up a liter of size to start and give these few sheets a go. I may "test size" some much cheaper etching paper just to get the feel of brushing out the size--a sheet of magnani or fabriano etching paper here is just 3Euro/sheet and I could probably use it for watercolor after if it's sized??

I'll let you know how well (disastrous) it goes!

Andrew Stone
rospobio.blogspot.com
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Message 3
From: Carole Dwinell
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:12:35 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44648] location of Japanese Papermakers
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Hi, all.

Could use some help here. A friend on another list is looking to visit
the studios of japanese paper making artists who might welcome a visit
from a foreign visitor. Is there a directory (in English, please) or
do any of you have that information?

Thank you.
Carole
dwinell.carole@gmail.com
http://caroledwinell.blogspot.com
www.caroledwinell.com
"Today is the day to DO it!"
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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:22:56 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44649] Re:5819 Home sizing paper
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Andrew,
We are all hoping you make the sizing work, I think the etching paper will work well for watercolor after it is sized...my experience with watercolor on etching paper is that it is immediately absorbed, no moving the pigment around.
My water brush is about 7 inches wide and it works well for dampening paper...I would try using just water and newsprint to get the feel of it, you will immediately see where the water is on the newsprint and know how hard or lightly to press... this way you will know what you are doing when you get to the real paper and the newsprint will dry so you can use it again.
My best
Barbara
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Message 5
From: key sevn
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:30:53 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44650] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet?
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and how about printing size using woodblock?

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Message 6
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 16:39:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44651] Re: sizing paper at home--both sides when wet?
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This is a good idea, I did chine colle with a class of high school kids by rolling out pva glue on a piece of plastic (acrylic) and laying the paper back side down on it and pushing it into the glue with fingers... it worked really well for a class of 30 kids. It is always hard to figure out how to do this with a big group...

So if you brushed out the sizing on a block that was full of water so it would not absorb the sizing, I think it might work. This is a good idea and I will try it myself. I have about 200 sheets of paper from Mexico that is totally unsized and made from the local vegetation. I would love to be able to use it as it was almost free it was so cheap. I got it through the Drachen Foundation in Seattle, they use it to make kites.
My best
Barbara
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Message 7
From: Pinto Lawrence
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:16:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 44652] Thank you, Bareners
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Dear Bareners,

Last week I posted a question about the type of landscape drawing that
can be made into a good woodcut and another about how a specific
pastel could be turned into a woodcut. I got a number of responses and
suggestions and I have learned a lot from them.

I want to thank the people who responded to me, particularly Graham
Scholes, Dave Bull, Diane Cutter, Annie Bissett, and Linda Beeman. You
have been very helpful and patient with my beginner's questions and I
really appreciate it. I'll try to pass along the same to others when
I've learned enough to do so.

Thanks again,

Larry

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