Today's postings

  1. [Baren 41724] link to gelatin in bulk (eli griggs)
  2. [Baren 41725] wrinkled corners (Andrew Stone)
  3. [Baren 41726] Re: wrinkled corners (Barbara Mason)
  4. [Baren 41727] Re: wrinkled corners (l k)
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Message 1
From: eli griggs
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:14:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41724] link to gelatin in bulk
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I don't know how many folks here need gelatin on a regular basis but here is a
link to a supplier I just learned about on a carbon printing (photographic)

It was favorably compared to a gelatin that is rated to 250 bloom with identical

Cheers, Eli
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Message 2
From: Andrew Stone
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:46:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41725] wrinkled corners
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I'm working on a heavier sheet of washi--90g/M2 and printing off a piece of plywood--moku hanga style with a medium baren. Since my paper is bigger than the wood block, there is a 1" border of paper that remains off the wood and doesn't get pressed by the baren.
As I have been doing multiple drops with large areas of color the paper that is printed is getting wetter and wetter and eventually is buckling while the border stays relatively dry and is sort of drying out. By the time I've done my 3-5 impressions the corners look uneven/stretched and dry that way.
I tried moistening the paper again once dry and ironing with the baren the whole corner against a hard surface but while it worked/got flat when wet, it dried wavy/wrinkled.

Can I fix this or how can I avoid this?
I pressed the paper between two big plywood boards but without a lot of weight.

Andrew Stone
The print in question and the wrinkled corners on on my blog post.´╗┐
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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:24:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41726] Re: wrinkled corners
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To fix wrinkled paper. . . dampen the paper from the back until it is uniformly
damp all over, Put it in clean dry flat blotters for 30 minutes,
Move it to a second set of clean dry flat blotters. At this point you can weight
the sandwich if you so desire, my stack of blotters is 5 inches high so the
weight of the blotters is enough to take care of flattening the prints.
Move the prints to new blotters in the morning, leave in the blotters for a
couple of days. The prints will be flat as a pancake. I do not recommend ever
ironing paper, it is not a good way to treat your prints and will damage the
My best to all
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Message 4
From: l k
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:36:08 GMT
Subject: [Baren 41727] Re: wrinkled corners
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I was getting these kinds of wrinkles for a bit,
but I discovered it was because my paper was not uniformly damp.
The edges of the paper were drying fasteráthan the center part,
which meant to me, the outside edges were slowly shrinking back to their normal size
faster than the inside, creating a kind of bowl like situation,
and no way could I get the wrinkling to stop..
until I started paying attention to my paper dampening habits.
I just watch what the paper tells me.
Yeh, and Barbara is right..
blotters, weight and patience.