Today's postings

  1. [Baren 40043] barens and member blogs (Linda Beeman)
  2. [Baren 40044] Re: Baren Digest (old) V49 #5017 (Bill Pangburn)
  3. [Baren 40045] Re: Barens used ("Nancy O")
  4. [Baren 40046] Plannedscapes, substitutes of baren (guadalupe Vic)
  5. [Baren 40047] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V49 #5017 (Oct 30, 2009) (Lynn Starun)
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Message 1
From: Linda Beeman
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:22:41 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40043] barens and member blogs
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I also started out with a wooden spoon. I used it so much the back side is like glass. But my hands would cramp so bad I figured there had to be a better way. I tried the speedball baren and it's ok but I felt it was too rounded and I kept missing my edges. Then I tried the "student grade" baren and that was better but fell apart quickly. I finally bought the most expensive tool I've ever bought (and I brought up my husbands backhoe when making my case for it's purchase!) - a baren from the Baren Mall. It made a huge difference. HUGE.

And I always use parchment paper between the baren and the print. Otherwise you just shred the paper. I was also told wax paper would work but found it shaved off the wax onto the baren.

Member blogs: my didn't show up again. I don't know why. I remember someone mentioning that if you took too long writing your post it wouldn't go thru? Anyway I have a new print up and it's at
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Message 2
From: Bill Pangburn
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:23:15 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40044] Re: Baren Digest (old) V49 #5017
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I studied printmaking in Germany and the preferred tool is a bone
folder, which is used in book binding. It has a very slight belly to
it. Some have a somewhat pointed tip; others are more rounded. I have
used this tool for years and find it unsurpassed, but i also generally
print with oil based inks in the western tradition. I have all of my
students buy these. They are available in some art supply stores, cost
less than $10, and can also be found online at Utrecht or Talas (the
widest selection), among others. Thought there is a synthetic version
(PTFE), I have only used those made of real bone. Oiling or polishing
of any kind is not required.

As far as spoons go, the type of spoon to use is a Japanese rice
spoon. Other wooden spoons are too round, I agree.

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Message 3
From: "Nancy O"
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:49:48 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40045] Re: Barens used
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Barbara mentioned the rice paddle, and that reminded me of my old butter paddle...never thought of using it (so far). I do not like the teflon Speedball baren, and get good results from less expensive plastic ones from the Baren Mall...when I win a lotto...........
Two more oxen arrived last week..Brad's brought back good memories of our trip to Spain, and Monica's is an absolutely unique approach...wonderful.

Nancy O
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Message 4
From: guadalupe Vic
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:01:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40046] Plannedscapes, substitutes of baren
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Substitutes for Baren.

Hello Karma. Sometimes in the same print I use several objects as barens in the same order.
First I use my hand followed by a wooden flat spoon, then a flat metal spatula and finally a regular metal spoon for the small details.
I bought one of those 250 or so dollars small printing presses and they serve well also for relief prints.

Some printers here use a baren made of dry corn leaves but I have not tried it. Others use like a handmade leather with holes with movable marbles;
this works very well I have tried it but do not own one.
Best Regards, Guadalupe
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Message 5
From: Lynn Starun
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:47:12 GMT
Subject: [Baren 40047] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V49 #5017 (Oct 30, 2009)
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Hi All,I have two ball bearing barens--first I bought the plastic one and loved it but I figured if it was so good imagine how good the one with the nice leather handle would be so eventually I bought that one.  The more expensive one sits in a drawer but the plastic one I use all the time and not just for woodblock Japanese style.  I like it for linoleum block printing or any relief printing where the ink is rolled on.  Sometimes I use a piece of wax paper to protect the paper or the more expensive stuff from Japan. A little chapstick on that paper is really helpful once in a while.   I think it's expensive but it is such a good tool that I don't think the price is too high.Lynn Allison Starun