Today's postings

  1. [Baren 39443] Re: cherry plywood (richard stockham)
  2. [Baren 39444] The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me. (Lana Lambert)
  3. [Baren 39445] Re: Exchange 41 ("Jeanne Norman Chase")
  4. [Baren 39446] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me. ("Terry Peart")
  5. [Baren 39447] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me. (Daniel Dew)
  6. [Baren 39448] Blog Listings (Gayle Wohlken)
  7. [Baren 39449] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me. (David Bull)
  8. [Baren 39450] More on Plywood and Distance Learning (Tom Kristensen)
  9. [Baren 39451] Re: copyright (Amanda Miller)
  10. [Baren 39452] Distance Learning (Barbara Mason)
  11. [Baren 39453] RE: More on Plywood and Distance Learning (jennifer kelly)
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Message 1
From: richard stockham
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:21:54 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39443] Re: cherry plywood
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I want to thank all y'all for the input. This diversity of thoughtful options will more than satisfy my needs. This is just the kind of friendly, knowledgeable and practical help I have come to rely on here. And, thanks to the facebook option now available I'll post the results there in 6 to eight weeks.

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Message 2
From: Lana Lambert
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:12:26 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39444] The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me.
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I seriously doubt it.  But I've been passed over again!

So, for anyone who cares to read and see an update about trilobites or wants to revisit their childhood making mud pies this is for your enjoyment:
-Lana Lambert
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Message 3
From: "Jeanne Norman Chase"
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:53:21 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39445] Re: Exchange 41
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Dear Joseph
You have sure had your share of bad happenings of late. So sorry about your loss and all the other events that have been so unpleasant.
Wish I did not have some more bad news.
I must drop out of the exchange.
I have nerve damage in my right hand and it comes and goes and when it happens , then I have to wear a cumberson brace on my wrist. Am typing with my left hand, which in itself is difficult.
I know the penaly will be that I cannot enter another exchange for awhile but it seems I will not be able to anyway.
I had my "duck" carved for three colors and was starting on the first last week when my wrist gave way. thought it might be miner but was not. I feel very bad as I know it is too late for someone to jump in for me.
I even tried the dremel with my left hand, no go.

Sorry beyond words.
Jeanne Norman Chase
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Message 4
From: "Terry Peart"
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:13:13 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39446] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me.
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So, how does one include their blog into the blog list? I've looked on the website and can't figure it out.
West Seattle
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Message 5
From: Daniel Dew
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:18:20 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39447] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me.
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Let me answer, let me answer!

You have to use the tag thing at the bottom: IT HAS TO SAY "relief
printing" to appear in the Blog Manager update.

Daniel Dew
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Message 6
From: Gayle Wohlken
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:25:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39448] Blog Listings
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For listing your blog on the Baren Digest:

> [Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog, or a website with a
> published ATOM feed, and wish it to be included in our daily
> checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager here. (If your
> blog also contains material other than woodblock-related items, we
> can only add you if the woodblock posts will be 'labeled' as such.
> The Blog Managers can provide details.)

The blog manager is Julio Rodriguez:

Just click the circle by his name and fill in the form, telling him
you wish your blog listed.

This info, by the way, is at the very bottom of the Baren Digest where
it lists a number of options for Bareners, i.e. for uploading their
snapshots to show in the digest, or for changing their membership, or
listing their blogs, etc.

Hope this helps.

Baren Moderator
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Message 7
From: David Bull
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:50:46 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39449] Re: The blog updater has a personal vendetta against me.
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Lana wrote:
> ... I've been passed over again!

The blog updater is a small php script, without a lot of brain. It
doesn't know the meaning of the word 'vendetta'.

I had a look at your blog to try and see why your last entry got
skipped. My script looks for the _creation_ date of entries, and uses
that information to decide what to include, and what to skip.

Your entry didn't appear on the digest this time because it was too
old (it had been created just over 24 hours before our scan time.)
That means it _should_ have appeared the day before; my guess as to
why it didn't, is that you worked on it for a while as a draft
version, without setting 'publish'.

So two digests ago, you had created, but not yet published ... one
digest ago, you had published, but were now too old ...

I don't have a simple solution for this problem. I can't ask the
script to use 'modified date', because blog entries would then be
repeated every time somebody made a spelling correction, or something
like that. Just try to minimize your 'editing' time, to minimize the
chance of this happening.

Anyway, this is what I suspect happened in this case. (It wasn't
actually anything to do with the keywords, or tagging)

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Message 8
From: Tom Kristensen
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:57:10 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39450] More on Plywood and Distance Learning
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The Cherry faced plywood sold by Rockler is indeed AI cabinet grade,
as explained by Mike... but it is sold for making cabinets on boats -
it is unusually light. Cabinet grade plywood is not normally made
from lightweight timbers. If you want a board that is easy to carve
then it should be lightweight, however, lightweight boards are not
normally used for fixing veneer, they tend to squash when put in the
veneer press under enormous pressure. Lightweight boards are also not
noted for being completely flat, there is a slight 'chatter' on the
surface made from the milling machine. This can be sanded off, but in
my case we just crossed fingers and proceeded regardless. Cutting the
board lengthwise before veneering also helps.

Foreman Ray at Yates Timbers in Sydney was not too impressed with the
cheapo boards (A1 in name only) I was asking to have veneered, but he
did the job and it worked out fine.
I strongly recommend the lightweight timber, the results are much
easier on the wrist when it comes to carving.

I think I remember Maria saying that the Rockler ply is not ideal
when printing a huge print with a press, because of its squashiness.
Printing with a baren is a little kinder to the timber and I have not
had any problems.

Jennifer asks where in OZ did I learn to do Hanga. I learnt here on
the computer accessing the pages of the Baren Forum. I am yet to meet
another person in real life who has carved a wooden block, all my
tuition has been virtual. Answers to any question can be found by a
simple Google search adding the search word 'baren'. Much of the
meatiest information is archived from the early days. Of course you
can always ask a fresh question without searching the archives, but
for the full-length debates with pros and cons I recommend the
tussles from way back when.

'Japanese Wood-Block Printing' by Hiroshi Yoshida as an ebook posted
up by Dave is excellent:

But my favourite book to hold in the hand comes from the University
of Finland:
'The Art and Craft of Woodblock Printmaking' etc. by Kari Laitinen et al
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Message 9
From: Amanda Miller
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:24:39 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39451] Re: copyright
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Thanks to those who helped with my copyright question. I find the issue
confusing and appreciate the guidance. The novel I'm working with is
contemporary, but I'm not copying another artist's illustrations, I'm coming
up with my own. The author is living, so I may try to contact him, just to
be safe.


Amanda Gordon Miller
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Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:29:13 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39452] Distance Learning
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This is amazing, that you have learned this by trial and error. Major congratulations. I don't think I would have had the tenacity to keep going, since I know all the things that can go wrong. Your work is lovely. I agree the book from Finland is the best one out there. I don't let that one leave the studio, no matter who wants to borrow it. I think it is out of print but McClains still has a few, for 1/2 the price on Amazon. This Baren Forum is amazing... look how many lives it has changed, and all for the better!
My best
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Message 11
From: jennifer kelly
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:37:22 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39453] RE: More on Plywood and Distance Learning
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It sounds like my "journey." I am in the middle of getting some images together to put on a blog so as to be able to share with everyone. I too downloaded the Yoshida book about 5 years ago. Unfortunatly I had injured my arm/hand which did not allow me to carve anymore. I have also never met anyone face to face that carves wood. Baren is my major connection with this section of learning. Likewise, distance learning. At the moment I have 2 queries. !. Being a virtual learner, I have no idea how to pronounce those Japanese words.2. I have carved several vinyl blocks (its all I had at the time,) with which I want to print using oil based inks in a hanga style. I carved my key block first, then made a mistake that I have only come to realise. I printed the key block onto the other blocks and then carved them out. So of course my key block will be the reverse of my other blocks. Where to go from there???Jenny