Today's postings

  1. [Baren 39222] Re: Facebook ( slinders #
  2. [Baren 39223] Re: Facebook (Andy English)
  3. [Baren 39224] Lino printing problems and face book (Georgina Leahy)
  4. [Baren 39225] Baren is Special (April Vollmer)
  5. [Baren 39226] RE: Lino printing problems and face book (jennifer kelly)
  6. [Baren 39227] Re: Baren is Special (ArtfulCarol #
  7. [Baren 39228] Facebook schism (Tom Kristensen)
  8. [Baren 39229] Re: Facebook ("Nancy O")
  9. [Baren 39230] Re: Baren is Special (Barbara Mason)
  10. [Baren 39231] Re: Lino printing problems and face book (Charles Morgan)
  11. [Baren 39232] RE: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4871 (Jun 29, 2009) (guadalupe Vic)
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Message 1
From: slinders #
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:36:14 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39222] Re: Facebook
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Facebook? Not interested!

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Message 2
From: Andy English
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:01 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39223] Re: Facebook
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I enjoy my occasional forays into Facebook and am pleased to be in touch with several BAREN members. However, I don't think that BAREN necessarily needs its own group there.
Actually, there are several groups caled Baren, dealing with topics such as Electronic music and food & drink. There are also many groups dedicated to printmaking that one might join. Perhaps someone would like to start one for hanga - though there is already one called "�I got fat in switzerland - because of Hanga" which if probably about something else ;-)
I'm off to the Wood Engravers Workshop annual gathering in Chicago in less than three weeks now - and getting excited.
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Message 3
From: Georgina Leahy
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:20:02 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39224] Lino printing problems and face book
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Thank you those who responded to my questions about printing lino and for the post that prompted my thoughts.

I don't know much about facebook so probably am not interested. While I am new here , I think this forum works well enough.
If I could make the comment that I would prefer conversations about printing though, but I guess it is all part of the same
thing, getting a message out. I am more interested in the old than the new though! I am about to take some classes in digital
illustration and typography just to help pull me out of my medieval ways. I am actually quite interested in learning about old
fashioned typography really. It would be lovely to have a letterpress to print images and type. That would be very nice indeed.
Anyone do that sort of thing here?

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Message 4
From: April Vollmer
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:21:19 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39225] Baren is Special
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Baren has always been special because of David's careful programming, and the input of other members of the organizing committee.
It is not a commercial site, but designed for serious people who want to share information about moku hanga and related printmaking.
I appreciate the content of the site, but also its form. It remains true to David's original vision, which has has been flexible enough
to permit much growth. The format of Facebook encourages chatter, which I already have plenty of, thank you very much!

Baren is special because of the hard work of David, Barbara, Maria, Mike and others, people who bring their vision and personalities
to the Forum to make it the welcoming, informative place it is.

April Vollmer
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Message 5
From: jennifer kelly
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:06:32 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39226] RE: Lino printing problems and face book
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I am also new and am addicted to all things printing. I have been looking for a letterpress for a while, I am both patient and opportunistic.
It will happen one day. I was originally looking for a platen style, or any style really. but I have recently seen one that is much easier and
quicker to typeset. It also takes up a lot less room and is portable. Unfortunately I do not know what its name is. I look for these things on Ebay.
2 years ago I purchased an etching press there. And its a terrific press. Jenny

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Message 6
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:06:50 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39227] Re: Baren is Special
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Amen to what April and others voting NO for Facebook said..
I was faced with more than 200 e-mails this week. Eeek, no more, thank
Carol L.
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Message 7
From: Tom Kristensen
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:35:30 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39228] Facebook schism
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Some years back The baren blog was set up to enable members to post
images and video links. it looks great, but it is a little tricky to
use. One needs a password and html skills and probably it works best
when one can use photoshop to prepare the images. Each time I posted
an image it took me a few attempts to get the page to look good. This
is all acceptable, but the real problem is that there is little
traffic to the blog. Few people are posting and comments are scarce
to say the least. Over the years my own postings continue to draw
attention from robots seeking to advertise sex potions - and these
continue to arrive in my inbox asking for my approval. I gave up
posting images on the blog page, but I still look in now and then.
The baren blog page should be the place to go.

However, I do post images of my prints on my facebook page. Needless
to say it is a far simpler process. Anyone who would like to see my
prints can do so by requesting to become a 'friend' on facebook.
Easy, no problem. A facebook group for woodblock printmakers will no
doubt start up and I suppose I would join up. But these group efforts
on facebbook tend to dwindle away without the continuing efforts of
an administrator who is motivated to keep the page looking fresh and
again, some effort is required on the part of members to actually
post up material.

I am optimistic that there will be a platform where we can easily
exchange images rather than text, and yes emailing over prints is a
little like dancing to describe architecture as Mr Zappa said when
asked to talk about his music.

Tom Kristensen (not the danish formula one racing driver)
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Message 8
From: "Nancy O"
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:38:58 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39229] Re: Facebook
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Definitely No to Facebook....good way to keep in touch with those you want to maybe, but too much 'junk'...IMNOHopinion.

Nancy O
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Message 9
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:00:08 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39230] Re: Baren is Special
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Thanks April, we are all blushing.
I do agree that baren is special. And it does take all 10 or so of us to make it run, while no one is controlling facebook.
Dave still does a lot, he would say he has given it over to us but without him it would certainly not be what it is. He is the driving force, that is for sure and I am sorry the newer members do not get daily posts from him. It was what got me into and staying in baren for 10 years. He only has so much time and like most of us he needs to be earning a living. We miss his on the list input but understand. He is still pretty active behind the scenes if there is a problem.
My best to all

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Message 10
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:19:34 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39231] Re: Lino printing problems and face book
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Several folks have mentioned wanting a letterpress ... Well, as a very inexpensive alternative, may I suggest a platen style bottle jack press. These things are a snap to build ... takes less than a day once you have assembled the pieces. Can be done by ANYONE ... no testosterone required ... using only hand tools. I did a workshop for six older ladies this spring ... all built a working press in less than a day. All materials are readily available at your local building supply store. If you would like a complete set of instructions, just email me off list. Or you can download a pdf file at:

Note this is a stronger, easier to build design than what is posted on my website. My new design handles half a regular sheet of printing paper ... platen-bed contact is 16x16 inches. It will print etchings up to 4x6 inches ... mezzotints up to 2x2 inches. And of course it will print relief of all sorts.

Just a suggestion ....

Cheers ...... Charles
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Message 11
From: guadalupe Vic
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:13:51 GMT
Subject: [Baren 39232] RE: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4871 (Jun 29, 2009)
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Hello Jean: For the Prints for Peace: A Passpartout is the cardboard sleeve or frame around the print. I am not sure
how you call it in English. In Spanish is called Marialuisa. The translation of pass partout is that it passes all the way around I guess.
Thank you for asking and please send me the translation in English so that I can inlcude it in the call..
Saludos, Guadalupe