Today's postings

  1. [Baren 36931] Re: tallies (AEleen Frisch)
  2. [Baren 36932] Shades of _________ (AEleen Frisch)
  3. [Baren 36933] Exchange 39 (Daniel Dew)
  4. [Baren 36934] Re: Online woodblock books (Annie Bissett)
  5. [Baren 36935] Re: exchanges , white line woodcuts (Sharri LaPierre)
  6. [Baren 36936] Re: tallies (Diane Cutter)
  7. [Baren 36937] Re: blog comments (ArtSpotiB #
  8. [Baren 36938] Re: tallies ("Ellen Shipley")
  9. [Baren 36939] Re: tallies (Graham Scholes)
  10. [Baren 36940] Re: tallies ("Maria Arango")
  11. [Baren 36941] Exchange 39 and Oil & Water ("Mark Mason")
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Message 1
From: AEleen Frisch
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:22:24 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36931] Re: tallies
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My vote is trees.
My vote is yippee.
My vote is Yeah.
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Message 2
From: AEleen Frisch
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:26:41 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36932] Shades of _________
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Mike Lyon wrote:
> And for THEME -- how about this: SHADES OF BLUE ??? rotfl again!

Actually, monochromatic -- as a once-in-a-while category -- might be fun
as well :-)

AEleen Frisch, Ph.D.

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Message 3
From: Daniel Dew
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:29:59 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36933] Exchange 39
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Something we've never done, an all embossed series.

Daniel L. Dew
Tampa, FL 33624
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Message 4
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:41:51 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36934] Re: Online woodblock books
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Shawn posted:
>here's another...
>search: japanese wood block print making


Indeed. That's the Fletcher book. It's one of the 17 books reproduced
in their entirety on the Baren Forum web site:

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Message 5
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:21:13 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36935] Re: exchanges , white line woodcuts
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Yo, Gillyin,
I didn't say that I didn't know what the white line method was, I
just said I had never tried it and would be willing to give it a go if
an exchange were so designated. I am not one for fussy, fussy stuff,
either, but printing in colors requires a certain amount of that
whether it is oily or watery. And I do love color! But, I'm torn
towards black and white, too. sigh. In the end, I guess I just like
learning new things, which later may, or may not, end up incorporated
into my work. But, how do you know you won't like it if you don't try
it? OK, don't answer that - it's strictly rhetorical!

Cheers ~

And, thanks to all you young'uns who wrote to say "not seventy!" You
did your tasks well - your $$ are in the mail ;-) LOL
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Message 6
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:30:55 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36936] Re: tallies
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You can change my one vote from 'Garden/Plant/Landscape' to 'trees' ... that will help narrow down the choices. Also, though I said I'd love the challenge of Moku Hanga, I'm easy and, if the usual variety is the choice, maybe I can issue a challenge to those of us who want to learn it.

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Message 7
From: ArtSpotiB #
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:46:44 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36937] Re: blog comments
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Hi Linda.

You are right, your blog site doesn't yet accept comments. So I will do it
here. The upper most print of the lake is delicious, beautiful and I'm sure will
be a hit during the art fair. It captures the feeling of the area very well.
(We had a summer/ski place further north.)

I challenge you to do more about Michigan with such wonderful prints!
Certainly small versions of them would translate into brisk sales in a variety of
places too as they are very nice.


ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba now in Oakland, CA.

History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of
urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.
-Thurgood Marshall, US Supreme Court Justice (1908-1993)
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Message 8
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:36:44 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36938] Re: tallies
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If we decide on moku hanga, does that mean we need to gear up to do it right -- wrapping barens and burning brushes -- or does it mean watercolor prints with multiple blocks?


Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ
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Message 9
From: Graham Scholes
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:45:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36939] Re: tallies
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For sure.... on all accounts.

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Message 10
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:14:52 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36940] Re: tallies
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NO, that is absolutely incorrect, Graham.

If we decide on moku-hanga for Exchange #39 it would mean using a
water-based vehicle for pigment and paste, brushed on the block and printed
onto dampened suitable paper. The intent is to expose participants to the
method, not to make participants have to acquire an entire studio worth of
new supplies.
There are the absolute traditional supplies and many variations currently
being used by our inventive members.

Variations in pigment choices currently used by our moku-hanga printmakers
on the forum include but are not limited to tube watercolors, akua-color
liquids, Guerra pigments in suspension, powdered pigments from the Baren
mall or any variations thereof.

Vehicles could be the traditional rice paste prepared on your stove top,
ready-made rice paste, powdered rice paste, methyl cellulose, wheat paste
prepared or powdered or ready-made or any variations thereof.

Brushes can be the traditional Japanese brushes or cut-off shoe brushes or
thick oil/water painting brushes or anything suitable to achieve a nice
coverage of pigment/paste mix onto the block.

Barens can be any printing device, from traditional to ball-bearing to
home-made barens to any and all variations that we have discussed in the

Anyone wishing can do a one-color print, just like for any other exchange.
If we move forward I will detail all this on the information web-page.


       Maria Arango
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Message 11
From: "Mark Mason"
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:53:53 GMT
Subject: [Baren 36941] Exchange 39 and Oil & Water
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Regarding Exchange 39.

Are all those who like Tree self portraits (not my favourite, I have to
admit. I'm for "A Personal View" which, I suppose could be a view of
yourself as a tree!) planning on depicting themselves as Palms, Conifers or
Cypresses, because not many other trees will fit into the long thin format?
Draw it out and have a look; it's not ideal.

On Oily or Water, I have to agree with Tom K. I joined Baren because I
wanted to learn about traditional Japanese style water based woodblock
printing, and I have. I have a lifetime's debt of gratitude to David Bull
and all the Baren members who've given so much of themselves and their work.
Oil based printing is very interesting, and with a lot of cross-over at the
pre-printing stage, but I love the purity and simplicity of water based
prints, and skip all the post talk of solvents, presses etc.

What could be simpler than water, paper, paste and pigment/watercolour?
Other than water, paper and sumi, that is.

Lets not fall out though, no one wants that, and it's all a bit silly
really. We all learn from each other, and we all like to cut and print.

To infer that traditional waterbased printing methods are
"picky,picky,picky" is inexplicable. If you want to do B&W Moku Hanga, you
can, and I can carry my printing "press" in my coat pocket.

I would like all Moku Hanga Exchanges, but to be fair, it should be balanced
with All Oil Exchanges.

Maybe alternating one of the Chuban size exchanges Oil or Water. It's a
small enough size for people to try a new method of printing at minimum