Today's postings

  1. [Baren 34994] Re: Selling Rights to an image (ArtfulCarol #
  2. [Baren 34995] Re: Selling Rights to an image ("Maria Arango")
  3. [Baren 34996] Carborundum? (Annie Bissett)
  4. [Baren 34997] Re: Carborundum? (Carol Myers)
  5. [Baren 34998] Re: Carborundum? (David Harrison)
  6. [Baren 34999] infinite printmaking ("Oscar Bearinger")
  7. [Baren 35000] Re: Selling Rights to an image ("claudiacoonen")
  8. [Baren 35001] Re: infinite printmaking (ArtfulCarol #
  9. [Baren 35002] Re: Carborundum? ("DePry Clan")
  10. [Baren 35003] Re: Carborundum? ("Barbara Carr")
  11. [Baren 35004] wonderful package (Barbara Mason)
  12. [Baren 35005] hollidays (Maria Regina Pinto Pereira)
  13. [Baren 35006] small prints (Barbara Mason)
  14. [Baren 35007] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  15. [Baren 35008] Re: Copyright (Jan Telfer)
  16. [Baren 35009] posting ("Piers Moore Ede")
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Message 1
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:43:57 EST
Subject: [Baren 34994] Re: Selling Rights to an image
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I had experience* with artist's legal copyrights . Enough to say that it is
advisable to show any contract to a lawyer who specializes in copyright law.

An updated Artist's Legal Guide can tell you about many of the issues and is
also very interesting. Copyright Law is Federal although states have their
own specifics

Good Luck!.

It's best to stay out of the courts. But
*We won a Federal case and went on a nice cruise to Alaska.

Carol Lyons
Irvington, NY
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Message 2
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:32:28 -0800
Subject: [Baren 34995] Re: Selling Rights to an image
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Go to and buy their Legal Forms for Artist's CD (downloadable).
It is a resource that I use on a weekly basis for something or another.

You will have a better chance of getting your work published if you charge a
reasonable flat fee. The only demand that I make is credit and I have
received quite a bit of business from seemingly tiny publications that
published my images. Also, they keep coming back for more if you stay
Absolutely have a time limit for usage and specify (very specifically) the
use for the image. All of this is spelled out in the contracts in that CD.

Oh and always remember, "you catch more flies with honey..."

Good luck,

Maria Arango
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Message 3
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34996] Carborundum?
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Does anyone know where I can buy carborundum? I looked around on the
internet and could only find very large quantities (50 pounds+)
available. I just want a small amount to experiment with.

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Message 4
From: Carol Myers
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:36:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34997] Re: Carborundum?
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Hi Annie,
I think you can buy carborundum from Graphic Chemical and Ink-it's
used to grain litho stones and I've seen it in small cans.
Good luck on your hunt.

Carol Myers
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Message 5
From: David Harrison
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:36:09 +0000
Subject: [Baren 34998] Re: Carborundum?
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I think its chemical name is silicon carbide. You should be able to find one
pound cans of that at many online shops. Some of the hobby lapidiary stores
should be able to help.


David H
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Message 6
From: "Oscar Bearinger"
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:18:23 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34999] infinite printmaking
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Artful Carol

I just love your statement about printmaking, Carol:

" It was the possibility of playing with infinity: "

Gives us a lot of possibilities in the process of printing.
I need to remember that the next time I feel stuck!


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Message 7
From: "claudiacoonen"
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:46:01 -1000
Subject: [Baren 35000] Re: Selling Rights to an image
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Funny I just sort of went thru this but in a different aspect.. I was contacted by a photographer for Pottery Barn who wanted to use my prints in a catalog shoot. I was sent a release to sign .. It was giving them full rights to owning their publication, But I made sure they had NO rights to Reproduce my images.. I still had a sense of un ease signing any sort of contract, but obviouly if I didn't they wouldn't be used.
I'm hoping everyone contacts P.B. when they come out, about my prints , so maybe they will carry me (lol).. But does any one know of a contract form covering this? I have one from crafts report, but I feel like it's usually the purchaser/user of the images drawing up the contract. I think signing requires some smarts and some faith....
They did buy the prints.....

claudia g. coonen
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Message 8
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:23:25 EST
Subject: [Baren 35001] Re: infinite printmaking
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Oscar, thanks for the comment.
Take the possibilities and run with them
What fun!
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Message 9
From: "DePry Clan"
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:04:00 -0800
Subject: [Baren 35002] Re: Carborundum?
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Try Harbour Freight Tools.
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Message 10
From: "Barbara Carr"
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:30:41 -0800
Subject: [Baren 35003] Re: Carborundum?
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Annie, Daniel Smith carries 6 different grits of carborundum, from #80 to
#320; it's about $9.95 per pound. They have pumice powder, too.
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Message 11
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:43:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 35004] wonderful package
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Hello friends,
I got the best package in the mail today....

Do you remember when Andy English was selling his
complete works for pennies? Well, even at pennies I
could not get the complete works but I did send him
some money to help him buy his press.

We debated over what I should receive in return and
finally I told him to make something he would like to
do, an image for himself.

It arrived today...a wonderful little box of a zillion
book plates that say
Barbara Mason and have an image of a grouse...they are
so wonderful and on top of this Andy sent his amazing
handmade book with 25 bookplate in it. What an
exciting day...I think I might start collecting book

At any rate, you can see the book on his site, and the book is here

Andy, I leave it to you to put the little grouse on
your blog so we can all see it, I am lousy at computer

I already thanked Andy, but just could not resist
sharing it with everyone....I am so excited.
My best to all,
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Message 12
From: Maria Regina Pinto Pereira
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:12:21 -0300
Subject: [Baren 35005] hollidays
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I'll have hollidays from 14th to 26th February in Paris.
Someone has some hint about etchings and engravings for me?
I intend to see the exhibition "Expo L’Enfer de la Bibliothèque. Eros
au secret à la BNF" - The erotic prints at National Library
and also to visit Sennelier to buy some papers and ink.

In the 23rd February I'll be in London, but only this day.
If there is some nice exhibition, I can try to see it...

thanks in advance

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Message 13
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:25:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 35006] small prints
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Sorry for the second post in one day, but I got
looking at book plates on the web and see what I found
best to all
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Message 14
From: Blog Manager
Date: 7 Feb 2008 04:55:32 -0000
Subject: [Baren 35007] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (42 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)


Site Name: Woodblock Dreams

Author: Annie B
Item: Mohammed Square


Site Name: mLee Fine Art

Author: Marissa L. Swinghammer
Item: New Shop! mLeeRedux on Etsy

Author: Marissa L. Swinghammer
Item: Valentines Day Contest! Win This ACEO!


Site Name: Artist Printmaker on line

Author: ainesse
Item: Have You Seen Her...Tell Me Have You Seen Her?


[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:

For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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Message 15
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:49:35 +0800
Subject: [Baren 35008] Re: Copyright
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Nice work Annette, Congratulations.

One of my earlier woodblocks (one colour design) of flying birds in
sunrays for an exchange was posted on the internet and I had a personal
email from a tattooist who requested my permission to use it. I was
thrilled that he even asked. Of course I gave him permission.... I
didn't really feel as if I could ask commission for using it or selling
the copyright and there would have been no way I could have checked it
out...... going to America and pulling up every likely shirt on likely
"hunks".... could you imagine it? Wow, but at least if i do see it in
a Tatts magazine I will frame the picture alongside my woodblock print
and block!! Everytime that body moved my birds would fly...........

Good luck, Annette.

W. Australia
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Message 16
From: "Piers Moore Ede"
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:20:05 +0000
Subject: [Baren 35009] posting
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Can I post this on the forum?

I've recently started an art business in the UK, (mainly online)
which will be selling beautifully printed images on handmade
indian khadi paper. I'll be supplying private individuals as well
as providing art for offices and hotels etc.

One section of my site will sell broadsides, ie poetry and an
image, and I'm looking for woodcut artists who might be
interested in working with me. To begin with, I'll be using some
well known poems, for example Heaven by Rupert Brooke, which is
about fishing. I'll print a limited edition of these (say 50) and
sell them for aroud 500 each. To be honest I haven't full
considered what the financial arrangement would be, but probably
we'd agree a percentage and the artist could therefore stand to
make a decent amount.... Could any artist interested in this
submit to me an example or two of their images, or a site where I
can look. Many thanks, Piers Moore Ede


Fish (fly-replete, in depth of June,
Dawdling away their wat'ry noon)
Ponder deep wisdom, dark or clear,
Each secret fishy hope or fear.
Fish say, they have their Stream and Pond;
But is there anything Beyond?
This life cannot be All, they swear,
For how unpleasant, if it were!
One may not doubt that, somehow, Good
Shall come of Water and of Mud;
And, sure, the reverent eye must see
A Purpose in Liquidity.
We darkly know, by Faith we cry,
The future is not Wholly Dry.
Mud unto mud! -- Death eddies near --
Not here the appointed End, not here!
But somewhere, beyond Space and Time.
Is wetter water, slimier slime!
And there (they trust) there swimmeth One
Who swam ere rivers were begun,
Immense, of fishy form and mind,
Squamous, omnipotent, and kind;
And under that Almighty Fin,
The littlest fish may enter in.
Oh! never fly conceals a hook,
Fish say, in the Eternal Brook,
But more than mundane weeds are there,
And mud, celestially fair;
Fat caterpillars drift around,
And Paradisal grubs are found;
Unfading moths, immortal flies,
And the worm that never dies.
And in that Heaven of all their wish,
There shall be no more land, say fish.

Rupert Brooke, 1913