Today's postings

  1. [Baren 34107] Re: Studio Lighting (Andy English)
  2. [Baren 34108] studio lighting ("Lee Churchill")
  3. [Baren 34109] Re: Studio Lighting (DADI #
  4. [Baren 34110] lights again (Barbara Mason)
  5. [Baren 34111] Re: Baren Digest (old) V40 #4050 ("Marilynn Smith")
  6. [Baren 34112] Re: Karen Kunc workshop in NY (Diane Cutter)
  7. [Baren 34113] RE: blog discussion ("Mike Lyon")
  8. [Baren 34114] Re: Baren Digest (old) V40 #4053 ("Marilynn Smith")
  9. [Baren 34115] Re: Studio Lighting (Sharri LaPierre)
  10. [Baren 34116] Re: Photos on the Digest (Wanda Robertson)
  11. [Baren 34117] Re: picture (Wanda Robertson)
  12. [Baren 34118] Utamaro beauty ("Mike Lyon")
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Message 1
From: Andy English
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:41:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Baren 34107] Re: Studio Lighting
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My immediate lighting is a "daylight" fluorescent desk lamp - an inexpensive one. It floods my workdesk and is kind on my eyes. It was suggested by my optometrist, whom I had already married to secure future high quality eyecare - so important to an engraver.

Two posts to the main list in 24 hours - the boy is on fire!


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Message 2
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:34:03 -0600
Subject: [Baren 34108] studio lighting
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Hi Annie,

I have different lighting depending on the area. In my basement carving
area I bought a cheap fluorescent fixture that hangs by chains from the
rafters (about $20.00) it's not as attractive but it makes for a really
well lit area. Canadian Tire (which you probably don't have, but Home
Depot or other big box hardware places should be the same) sells quite
cheap daylight balanced fluorescents. Mine have been going pretty much
night and day for about three years... In my upstairs
printing/painting/bookbinding area I use compact halogens with UV
filters. I've heard people say they think halogens are yellow but I
don't find mine to be, they were cheapo ones from Ikea. I've found the
compact fluorescents too dim, even when they say they are supposed to be
the equivalent of a 100watt bulb they seem to be fairly brown and take a
long time to reach full brightness.

I hope you find something that works well for you and would love to hear
what solution you finally come up with.


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Message 3
From: DADI #
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:39:04 EDT
Subject: [Baren 34109] Re: Studio Lighting
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I have a studio in my basement with about 850 square feet. I have very
little light from outside so I had a number of florescent fixtures (8 two tube and
6 three tube 48 inch fixtures) hung. I also got two floor lights from First
Street (online) which are balanced spectrum and can be directed to where I am
working. I have vision in just one eye so find that the more light the

Dale Phelps
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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 34110] lights again
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you have really got the list going...and two posts
from, that is good.
I had flourescent day light bulbs installed when my
studio was wired and like them a lot..they do have the
professional balasts Mike was talking about, but it
has been three years and one it totally I
think it might have been defective. I did not notice
it so don't know how long it has not been working as I
had them put in a ton of lights. I don't work much at
night and I have huge windows made out of recycled
sliding glass doors all around so have lots of natural
My husband has been on a kick lately to replace all
the lightbulbs in our home with the curled flourescent
ones, they are very white light and definitely not as
much light as a reaular light bulb. I feel like we are
moving around here by feel, sort of like moles. Also
they take a long time to come on, a delay of about 10
seconds that seems a lot longer to me.
I am still not happy with them, but will give it a
little more time.
I have a magnifying fixture like the one Maria has for was amazing how much it helps. I do not
wear glasses to read, but find carving a different
My best to all
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Message 5
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34111] Re: Baren Digest (old) V40 #4050
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Hi Louise, good to hear you had a nice summer. Regarding your printmaking
questions, I am not an expert, but I have successfully dried out my hanga
style prints and rewetted them. I have never had a bleeding problem???? I
do not know if that might be caused by pigment or paper???? Also you can
place prints in the freezer for a few days and they will not mold. As for
how long one can leave them in a dampened state I believe that has a lot to
do with your climate. I like to use mine by the next day, in either my
north or south climates. Wanda are you saying we can place pictures on the
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Message 6
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:01:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 34112] Re: Karen Kunc workshop in NY
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What city/state is this in?

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Message 7
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:42:12 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34113] RE: blog discussion
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Dear Jean,

This is likely the Graham Scholes video you referenced:

It's very well produced, I think, and an honest presentation of his
technique. Every printer develops a bit differently, according to
experience, personality, and training -- it's always interesting to watch
how other printers do things and generous of Graham to make it available.

I hope everyone, especially instructors, will make an effort toward
pronunciation of Japanese printing vocabulary -- it's not good to hear
hanga-to, bokashi, ukiyo-e, or baren pronounced "hang uh 2", "boo-kashi"
"you-kiyo-e" or "BEAR-n". We have a good audio-glossary available at (click
the 'speaker' icon to play the glossary and be patient as the file

Another good series of videos comes from printer Keiji Shinohara who teaches
at Weslayan) and is on-line at (click 'Enter
Site', then select 'Techniques' from the pull-up menu at the bottom).

With respect to 'challenging people and getting arguments started' -- while
some members may have found that period of personal attacks and name-calling
entertaining in a voyeuristic sort of way -- it was counter-productive and
not at all entertaining to the victims of those attacks. I feel that Baren
Forum has been a much more productive 'educational environment' since the
removal of several persistent "flamers". I wouldn't want to see any repeat



Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
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Message 8
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:53:15 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34114] Re: Baren Digest (old) V40 #4053
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I have not been posting often on Baren because I have no questions to ask.
I have been working some, mostly non woodblock work. There is one new block
print that I still need to pull one more printing session from. My studio
is being worked on often and with the husband in there running a saw and
stuff stacked against my press I have to wait for days when he is busy else
where. As for lighting I will have 2 big incandescent spots and halogen
spots and a lot of natural light. I have large french doors front and back,
a small side window and an opened attic with a large eye brow window at the
end. Get as much natural light as you can, it makes a difference in how one
sees color.

Some times it is quiet here because we are all so busy. I do not think the
blogs are taking away, they are adding more. I enjoy visiting a few on a
regular basis. I have followed Marissa's life through her pregnancy and new
baby as well as all of her lovely work. As for me and blogging, gads I have
not even taken photos of my latest works, least of all put them on my blog.
Just a time consuming effort that I have become too lazy to do. As I am not
in country all year, I do not plan on selling online, but will sell direct
from my studio. The people who presently buy my art know me personally and
see me working and finally decide they just have to have something of mine.
So I have to agree that people love meeting the artist, seeing the work
being created and like that personal touch.

Louise blotters do not cause prints to bleed. I use them all the time and
like how they work.

I like all the different areas of Baren and choose the ones I want to
participate in most often. I love after 5 for just chatting about aspects
of life. I love the main list for debate, for exchange of ideas, for links
to work and just all the wonderful people world wide. I like the blogs for
the pictures of others work that we can not post on our main list and the
Baren Mall has been a good source for supplies.

I think we should be grateful for it all. Grateful that we can share world
wide, make wonderful artist friends and share our private lives and pictures
of our work with one another. Making Baren up to date and easier to use is
a great asset for everyone. Julio what do you need?
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Message 9
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:57:00 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34115] Re: Studio Lighting
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I also use the fluorescent fixtures, but I mix half cool white and
half warm white, which gives me a close proximity to daylight and are
much more economical than the color corrected bulbs. They are the
T-8, electronic ballast which is essential unless you prefer your
light flickering and listening to a hummmmm. I have 6 four light
fixtures in one room and 4 in the other and they seem to serve my
failing eyesight pretty well. I also have a long armed lamp for my
carving bench, one of those that fastens onto the table and you can
adjust for where you need the light the most. The same for over my
drafting table. And, just in case that is not enough, there are
track lights around the perimeter of the room, but I seldom turn them
on - only if I'm working very late at night after a very long day and
the eyeballs are just beyond cooperation.

Annie, I love your blog, but I can't seem to post to it. It does not
believe my password. I wanted to add to the discussion you and Mike
were having on hanshita. I print inkjet transparencies for my
solarplates quite often and I put the transparency through twice to
get the ink more dense. It prints in exactly the same place each
time. I don't know if that is because the paper (acetate) doesn't
stretch, or what, but it does show that printers can be consistent.
(Its an Epson - this is not a paid commercial..)

Cheers everyone ~
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Message 10
From: Wanda Robertson
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:09:50 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34116] Re: Photos on the Digest
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No, not on the blog - but on the HTML version of the Digest. In the
HTML digest a photo -uploaded by the person posting- comes up next to
their post. You can see an on-line version of the HTML digest at

Also, you have to give your e-mail address exactly like you are
subscribed, capitals or small letters do make a difference with this.

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Message 11
From: Wanda Robertson
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:23:06 -0700
Subject: [Baren 34117] Re: picture
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Dale, the photo looks great on the file - but you are posting from the address - so it won't come up on the
digest. Are you having trouble posting from the address you are
subscribed under?

And what's the name of the "other person" in that photo? What a cutie,
is it a Newfie?

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Message 12
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:52:21 -0500
Subject: [Baren 34118] Utamaro beauty
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There's a very simple print by Utamaro - three blocks, I think, all sumi
(black ink) - a middle gray overprinted by a dark gray plus a key block with
features, hair, script. Very beautiful and humbling example - it'll be up
for a few days if you'd care to have a look:

-- Mike

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO