Today's postings

  1. [Baren 33446] Re: Blick Presses (AGott26909 #
  2. [Baren 33447] Moku Hanga classes in Portland (Barbara Mason)
  3. [Baren 33448] Re: Baren Digest (old) V39 #3905 ("Marilynn Smith")
  4. [Baren 33449] apologies (Julie C Sparks)
  5. [Baren 33450] 19th Century Japanese prints (Tiberiu Chelcea)
  6. [Baren 33451] RE: 19th Century Japanese prints ("Mike Lyon")
  7. [Baren 33452] Re: 19th Century Japanese prints (Barbara Mason)
  8. [Baren 33453] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: AGott26909 #
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:43:26 EDT
Subject: [Baren 33446] Re: Blick Presses
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I have a 906 model II- It is a great press, for the money. They aren't as
finely crafted as some of the more expensive presses, and have less aggressive
gearing, meaning that you are going to have to 'crank' on them a bit harder to
use them, but as far as cost goes, they can't be beat.

I second Diane on the Phenolic bed- it is SO much lighter and easier to deal
with, in addition to the rust issues.
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Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33447] Moku Hanga classes in Portland
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It seems this list has been talking a lot about presses lately. I admit, I could not live without mine....but you cannot take it with you when you travel so woodblock has a strong appeal.

To bring things back to our true love, Moku Hanga....I want you all to know that our very own Wanda Robertson is going to be teaching an ongoing class is waterbased Japanese style woodblock. Wanda gave a great demo at the Summit so we all know she knows her stuff. The physical address will be Atelier Meridian, 665 N Tillamook in Portland OR. Here are the particulars and if anyone is interested in attending, call Print Arts Northwest at 503-525-9259 or email at Beginners are very welcome here.
I am planning to attend, and hope to get some work done! Unfortunately I am missing the very first class due to family stuff...rats.
Best to all

Moku Hanga Japanses Woodblock Class
5/17 - 6/7/2007
Print Arts Northwest
Moku Hanga (Japanese woodblock) Waterbased ink
Traditional Japanese woodblock
Instructor - professional artist and printmaker Wanda Robertson
Learn how to use traditional tools and how to keep them sharp
Print by hand with a Japanese style Baren, a small bamboo covered disc
Learn the difference types of hand-made Japanese paper
Print using pigment and rice paste
No chemicals of any kind are used. This is the most non-toxic of printmaking methods Everything you need to print is completely portable and packs down into a small box
Some supplies included

Thursday evening from 6-9:30pm
Classes starting May 17, 2007
Series of 4 classes
Class limit 10 students
Class supply list available after enrollment
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Message 3
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:28:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33448] Re: Baren Digest (old) V39 #3905
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Thought I made mention of this yesterday on after 5, but it did not go
through. I am busily carving on block 2 of the 3 color exchange. The first
block I did not use my electirc carve, dumb me. These blocks have quite a
bit of area to carve away and the electic carver is both a time saver and a
hand saver. When I used it yesterday I realized it works much better agains
the grain than with the grain. It does not splinter and it does not gouge
as much. This is probably something more accomplished carvers already know,
but a good thing to pass on to those who are starting out. I usually do
small intricate plates where this would not be an issue. So am learning
something with this next exchange already. Me and multiple plates and
printing will be the real challenge!!!!!

Happy carving everyone.
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Message 4
From: Julie C Sparks
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:15:42 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33449] apologies
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Sincere apologies... I just sent to the list in error. Usually I'm so

To make this Baren-worthy, I'll just mention that my Boar prints are
sadly late too, and may be another month or two. We got a German
shepherd pup last month, and she has sucked up all our free time faster
than we can blink. Adorable, smart, beautiful... you betcha. We just
can't get anything done! Too bad the Year of the Dog wasn't this year. :)

Julie Sparks
Salem, Oregon

>Hi Colleen,
>Attached is my artist CV as a Microsoft Word document; if you need it >in
>plain text just let me know.
>Julie Sparks
>Salem, Oregon
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Message 5
From: Tiberiu Chelcea
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33450] 19th Century Japanese prints
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I hope this email belongs to this forum -- it's about woodblock prints, the 19th century variety, but more about their monetary value than their technical aspects. If the topic's not right for this forum, I apologize.

Lately I've been checking the online auction site Artelino, specialized in Japanese and Chinese prints, both historical and modern. I've been quite amazed by the relatively low prices that these prints are fetching (some 19th century prints for 60-80$ -- granted, prints designed by more famous artists have a higher reserve price). How is this possible? Are these prints actually pulled in the 19th century, or are they later "editions" (if there is such a concept in traditional Japanese woodblock printmaking) pulled recently?

Thank you,
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Message 6
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:43:39 -0500
Subject: [Baren 33451] RE: 19th Century Japanese prints
Send Message: To this poster is an auction site, as you said,
offering mainly contemporary Chinese and contemporary and historic Japanese
prints, primarily woodcuts. Nice people to talk with, they represent
several Baren members regularly. I've purchased a number of prints from
them and have had no problems dealing with them at all. The prints usually
arrive as described in terms of impression, condition, and color although
there's a tendency (pretty widespread among all the commercial sites,
actually) to 'push' both color saturation and contrast - don't expect prints
to arrive quite as crisp as displayed.

Although the market is surprisingly active, there can be very wide disparity
in price and estimates among seemingly similar prints from dealer to dealer.
Condition, age, color, impression, popularity, rarity, etc all play a part
in determining price - the most common prints with 'unremarkable' subject,
condition, artist, impression etc are routinely sold for very little,
especially in the bookshops (even the airport shops have plentiful chuban
and oban prints 150 give or take 50 years, for less than $100 (many less
than $25). is pretty widely watched, as are and other
sites which auction Japanese woodblock prints. There are many dealers
around, too, where you can view and buy prints on-line - Artelino, and
Kotobuki both maintain 'retail galleries' on-line - here are a few other
gallery sites I like.

Personally, I think that late 19th century prints are generally undervalued
(with a few exceptions like Yoshitoshi), and I suggest that you figure that
you NOT consider purchases of cheap prints an 'investment', but rather
purchase ONLY prints you genuinely "like". It'll be a LONG time, I imagine,
before today's 'cheap' Japanese and Chinese prints are much appreciated.

Restrikes are usually indicated by 'key words' like "Later printing",
"Posthumous printing", "date: 18xx, this impression later", "completely
recut from the original design", etc. This is not to suggest that the
restrikes aren't wonderful examples of Japanese woodblock printmaking, but
they don't seem to hold their value very well (there are SO many of them
available today and many designs continue to come off blocks even as I
write) - prints of a design pulled yesterday are often sold at higher prices
than restrikes 50 or more years old. Prints from 'early' editions in good
condition command much higher prices.

Wonderful prints for the price of a (really) good meal, eh? Art NOW, stave
later! Happy shopping!

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
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Message 7
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:36:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33452] Re: 19th Century Japanese prints
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The prices are real and the prints are pretty good....there is no such thing in Japanese and Chineese woodblock as limited editions...they just keep making them and when a block wears out they cut another one. This does not mean the work is not good and have value. I would only buy work you work as an investment is chancy. So just get the ones you really want. I have a couple I bought at a local import shop and even though they are totally "unknown" they have a lot of value to me. Most reputable place will take it back if you are not happy with your purchase.
Best to you,
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Message 8
From: Blog Manager
Date: 15 May 2007 03:55:21 -0000
Subject: [Baren 33453] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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