Today's postings

  1. [Baren 33313] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt (Clive)
  2. [Baren 33314] Re: Baren Digest (old) V39 #3888 ("Marilynn Smith")
  3. [Baren 33315] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt (Sue Woollatt)
  4. [Baren 33316] Re: Final proofing done (Barbara Mason)
  5. [Baren 33317] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt ("Barbara Carr")
  6. [Baren 33318] vertical format prints ("Jean Womack")
  7. [Baren 33319] Maria Regina's email - a request ("colleen #")
  8. [Baren 33320] Re: vertical format prints ("cjpiers-gmail")
  9. [Baren 33321] RE: vertical format prints ("Mike Lyon")
  10. [Baren 33322] Re: Maria Regina's email - a request (Julio.Rodriguez #
  11. [Baren 33323] receipt of prints for satellite exchanges and a little OT ("Maria Arango")
  12. [Baren 33324] Re: receipt of prints for satellite exchanges and a little OT (Diane Cutter)
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Message 1
From: Clive
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:49:29 -0400
Subject: [Baren 33313] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt
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Hi Sue, your print 'Charlie' looks great! You mentioned that you'd "
been having trouble keeping flecks in the scorped-away areas from
printing " The mask works well for an image like yours because its all
in one area.

Another good trick is to keep the ink off the background by using
'bearer bars', plates you put on either side of your engraving while
inking. Because the plates are the same height as the engraved plate
they support the roller evenly and don't allow it to dip to one side or
the other of your image putting ink in the 'scorped-away' areas. They
are also very useful when inking small blocks and narrow blocks.

Good luck,

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Message 2
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:21:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33314] Re: Baren Digest (old) V39 #3888
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Ahh Maria, thanks for all your hard work.
Getting packages is not always what it should be. Our UPS driver leaves
them wherever he feels like. I had over a hundred dollars worth of art
supplies sit next door under a travel trailer in the pouring down rain for 3
days. Than I decided to use the tracking number and discoverred that the
driver had listed their address as the place of delivery. I had a covered
porch at that address, but the drive up the driveway was steep, he just did
not want to do it. I always get tracking numbers when it is an important
package, that does help when it does not arrive.

Block one of 3 is carved for the 3 color 3 block exchange. I am subbing
now, so hope by saturday to have part one of the pig cards in the mail, if
the sea food festival at the port ( Mary our port captain is a close friend,
must go) does not keep me full all day. Yes I do understand busy lives, I
have one. Bless you all and sorry to make waves. Most on our new years card
list I have received work from in either that or another exchange and I know
they are truly wonderful folks with generous and loving hearts.
In fact I have met many of you in person and think that you are awesome
people. Perhaps it was just the shock that so few had actually been done,
guess i should wait til December to yell and scream, huh???

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Message 3
From: Sue Woollatt
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:55:08 +0100
Subject: [Baren 33315] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt
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Hi Clive,
What a brilliant idea...thanks! I'll try and find something that will
do the trick.

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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:15:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33316] Re: Final proofing done
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I am glad you were able to make the paper work for you.
You almost always see a border with block printing and it does help with the flecks as it holds the paper off the block. You could tape some matboard strips to the edges and I think that would work as well. You would keep them ink free of course. I use plastic tape over the matboard or places I want ink free as it is so easy to wipe off. All the purists are probably shuddering about now, but what works, works. Sometimes wood or lino just does not take ink because it is lower in one spot, so once you know where those areas are you take extra care and maybe use a tiny roller to ink that spot. A wooden spoon will be easier for you than a teaspoon. Maria has some amazing printing tools she has made. If you check out her site you will find them in there somewhere. I think she used a wooden knob (a drawer pull) that she got at a hardware store. Almost anything you can hang onto easily will work for oil based inks. A rice paddle is the easiest for me to
hold, you pad the handle so you can hang onto it better. It seems the perfect shape and you can find them in the USA at most kitchen stores and certainly most asian import stores. Of course a ball bearing baren does a great job but is pretty spendy and sometimes noisy.
What type of ink are you using? Almost everyone I know uses Lithography ink that is modified with some type of oil for block printing, but I think the relief ink works almost as well. It is really what you get used to and are comfortable with.
I think Charlie looks quite proud of himself.
Best to all
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Message 5
From: "Barbara Carr"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:48:40 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33317] Re: Final proofing done / Sue Wollatt
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Sue, I love your doggie print! To get excess ink off before I print, I
just wipe it away with a dry paper towel. I print by hand; not sure if
this would work as well on a press.
Barbara C
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Message 6
From: "Jean Womack"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:14:30 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33318] vertical format prints
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I am intrigued by the potential beauty of narrow vertical format woodcuts,
as we are doing for Print Exchange 33, right? Did I get the right exchange
number? Is this an especially Oriental format? Can anyone recommend web
sites with examples of this format, aside from Mike Lyons Chicago show? By the way, that is a very clever way
of preventing people from printing a copy of the print--to attach a big
expanse of black color to it, because the ink costs so much that when it
prints out, the person is horrified by the amount of ink he or she just used

It's wonderful to get some news from Chicago. Occasionally I see an art
magazine from Chicago, which always has remarkably interesting avant garde
art. I think, wow they have a vibrant art scene there. But we don't get
those magazines out here in the boondocks (San Francisco Bay Area) very
often. It was printed on heavy white paper, but not slick paper, but I
don't remember it's name. I think someone lifted it out of my library long
ago. Time to start putting my name on everything in the house and taking
photos of all my art work. Perhaps this summer will be a good time to do
that. Also, you wouldn't think that Fresno would be an art capital of
anything, but they have a thriving artists colony in the middle of Fresno.
I know that because I went to an artist convention there. Just be careful
where you turn right because you might be driving into oncoming traffic. I
guess the locals don't drive in that far left lane on one way streets, just
in case somebody wanders into their city who doesn't know what she is doing,
when she goes looking for a pharmacy to buy some laxative. They have signs
in the restrooms in motels near the convention center that say, "We're your
friends. We're here for you. Friendly bail bondsman." That's Fresno.
They have HUGE government buildings, with practically no one walking around
on the sidewalks, like a deserted city on Saturday. A long line at the
Mexican Embassy--I guess it was the Mexican Embassy--to get in or out? I do
not know.

Jean Womack
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Message 7
From: "colleen #"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 19:07:39 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: [Baren 33319] Maria Regina's email - a request
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I am writing here because I can't find Maria Regina's email
address... anyone knows it? she is in the year of the boar exchange

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Message 8
From: "cjpiers-gmail"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:12:32 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33320] Re: vertical format prints
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A very good question! Is this a vertical format?! I hope so. :o)

Connie Pierson
Spokane, WA
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Message 9
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:24:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 33321] RE: vertical format prints
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Be sure to copy the entire link (if any of the following break into more
than one line) -- from Google Images:

Chu-tanzaku is the format we're using for #33 -- here are LOTS of examples:

Hashira-e is an even longer and narrower format than chu-tanzaku -- here are

Hope this helps?


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
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Message 10
From: Julio.Rodriguez #
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 16:33:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 33322] Re: Maria Regina's email - a request
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I just sent you Maria Regina's email id....let me know if you don't get


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Message 11
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 15:57:08 -0700
Subject: [Baren 33323] receipt of prints for satellite exchanges and a little OT
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This past couple of days I have received about 12 packages from both Cairn
and Iraq exchanges. I will not be able to update website pages and email
participants for another week and a half but rest assured, they are piling
up nicely. Two back to back festivals left starting at 4am tomorrow, my last
of the spring season.

Just as a curiosity, the second festival is showcasing a promotion for
charity "10 for 10" which features 10 local celebrities and 10 artists of
the ArtFest of Henderson teaming together to create 10 works of art. The art
will be auctioned for charity prior to the festival.
I got paired up with Lon Kruger, the UNLV basketball coach. I'm sure obscure
to many of you, basketball is a game which features very tall people tossing
a rather large ball into a rather small basket hanging 10 feet in the air
:-) Why so high, I never knew, otherwise I could have been a basketball
player...sigh, but I digress...
Lon Kruger took the UNLV Rebels back into the national spotlight by reaching
the sweet 16 this past NCAA tournament so he is quite popular here.
We are making a dyptich entitled "Offense" and "Defense", which will feature
his basketball coach "marks" (arrows, circles, x's) on a parket canvas that
I just built. I am "printing" the relief "tracks" of a real basketball with
acrylic to enhance (but not overpower) the coach's handi-art-work.

Anyhow, should be a load of fun. The media will be there to record the first
and probably last Lon Kruger/Maria Arango original collaboration, and so
will my camera! Will show pics after the whole thing is over.


PS "a little OT" get it?

Maria Arango
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Message 12
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 33324] Re: receipt of prints for satellite exchanges and a little OT
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What a great concept for a woodcut, Maria! Please show it to us when it's done...