Today's postings

  1. [Baren 32646] Re: Numbering prints (Nancy McMahon-Cox)
  2. [Baren 32647] more on Canada shipping (Cucamongie #
  3. [Baren 32648] Re: more on Canada shipping (L Cass)
  4. [Baren 32649] Exchange 30 arrived (Raymond Hudson)
  5. [Baren 32650] Re: numbering prints (Sharri LaPierre)
  6. [Baren 32651] Re: Numbering prints (korbierogge #
  7. [Baren 32652] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
  8. [Baren 32653] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V38 #3764 (Jan 15, 2007) (juan)
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Message 5
From: Nancy McMahon-Cox
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:07:00 -0600
Subject: [Baren 32646] Re: Numbering prints
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Hi Dale, Hi All,
Most professional printshops and printmakers who print their own
editions number prints in an edition to designate how many total
prints are in that edition. The number is not related to the order in
which the print was made. The number is written on the print in
pencil and expressed as a fraction like: 2/50 meaning there are 50
prints in the edition. All prints in an edition are supposed to be
identical(same ink, colors, registration, paper) and usually prints
are pulled, dried and then sorted with non matching prints discarded.
The B.A.T. or R.T.P.(right to print)are signed by the artist and
either the artist or the printer matches the B.A.T. to each print in
the printing and sorting process. (An artist printed B.A.T. may be
called and labeled 'type l'artiste'.)Printers and printshops are
sometimes given prints as part of their compensation. Editions also
may contain a specified number of 'artist's proofs' which the artist
keeps for her own use. Artist's proofs and printer's proofs are so
marked in pencil and are not usually numbered. To be called an
'artist's proof' a print is supposed to match a B.A.T. and/or an
edition. Working proofs are often labeled as such by artists and
printshops and sometimes have notes, numbers, ink recipes etc. and
sometimes are signed. It is the responsibility of the printshop and
the editioning artist to document editions and to keep a log book of
what they have done.
Shop practice varies slightly but generally this is what pro
printshops and artists do and this is what gallery people who know
about prints understand and expect.
Best Regards - Ian Ox
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Message 1
From: Cucamongie #
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:30:41 EST
Subject: [Baren 32647] more on Canada shipping
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thanks for those who shared their thoughts on shipping to Canada.

A few more details about my situation: For convenience sake, I will
probably have my work returned from the exhibition via UPS, as I need to pay for
return shipping and so they can just charge it to my account. also, I will be
shipping to/from a residence, as this person is coordinating the exhibit at
the gallery.

If anyone has any further thoughts with this additional info, I would be
very appreciative if you could email me either on or offline, whatever you

many thanks
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Message 2
From: L Cass
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:57:08 -0500
Subject: [Baren 32648] Re: more on Canada shipping
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Sarah - I offer one more bit of advice knowing the details - since
your work is going to a private residence, put 'gift' and 'printed
material' (as applicable) on your packages
-packing your sculpture separately- and don't bother insuring it -
UPS doesn't offer insurance if you pack stuff yourself and I had to
have one of their agents here pack my
work for France in order to have it insured -next time I wouldn't
bother as it ended up being really costly. You can certainly rely on
UPS for not losing things and that would be
the only need for insurance - as Charles said, customs are more
likely to investigate packages that are insured - chances are it will
go quickly to it's destination -as
Charles and I both said the whole system is erratic but one way or
another packages do get delivered generally without too much trouble
and I've never heard of
things really getting lost - UPS gives you a tracking number which
you can call and find out your packages' progress and will tell you
when it's been delivered and who
signed for it.
So just keep your fingers crossed after you send (what city is your
work going to??)
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Message 3
From: Raymond Hudson
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:52:05 -0500
Subject: [Baren 32649] Exchange 30 arrived
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On the coldest day of the year so far, the prints for exchange 30
arrived. What a treat! It's a grand collection. Many many thanks, Doug,
for the coordination and the fantastic booklet that you prepared.
Ray Hudson
Middlebury, Vermont
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Message 4
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:07:22 -0800
Subject: [Baren 32650] Re: numbering prints
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Open editions work very well until you start dealing with galleries and
then that comes to a screeching halt. If I have something, like a new
years card, that I do not intend to put in a gallery, then O/E is the
way to go!

As far as instructors being scandalized, allow me to let you in on a
secret. Most of us teach (or taught) the accepted method (actually the
bon a tirer, or BAT is when you're working with a Master Printer. That
is the one they are to duplicate as closely as possible. Artist Proofs
should be part of the edition and as close to the others as possible.
They replace the BAT when you're doing your own printing, and have
other purposes, too.) But, as I started to say, we may teach one way,
but practice another. Most instructors I know have their own way of
doing things and it is, surprise! Whatever works for them. So now
you are all unburdened from your numbering guilts, if you had any!

Sister Sharri
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Message 5
From: korbierogge #
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:26:17 -0500
Subject: [Baren 32651] Re: Numbering prints
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well i cant say that i number my prints in exactly the order that i print them. i usually place them in an order while they dry and then try to pick them up in the same order to number then but i never really have worried too much about it. but i do infact number all my prints. i always have.
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Message 6
From: Blog Manager
Date: 18 Jan 2007 04:55:20 -0000
Subject: [Baren 32652] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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Message 7
From: juan
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:01:15 +0100
Subject: [Baren 32653] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V38 #3764 (Jan 15, 2007)
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Very nice exhibition. Congratulations for your curatorial work.
To all of you that missed,

>I am curating an international print show by 20 invited artists from
>10 different countries - Malaysia, Thailand, China, Japan, New Zealand,
>Estonia, USA, Mauritius, Poland, and Norway.
>60 prints will be on show which consists of all the printmaking techniques,
>from the traditional print techniques of woodcut, etching, silkscreen
>and lithography as well as the latest computer generated digital print.
>It's open for viewing starting January 10 until 1st. march 2007 at
>the USM Gallery. The exhibition will travel to Hatyai, Thailand from
>7th. -30 April 2007.
>It is our intention to make this exhibition as an annual event, and
>will make it as an open juried international show starting the year
>Please visit the following web site to view the exhibition:
>Rahman Mohamed
>School of Arts
>Universiti Sains Malaysia

Juan Guerrero
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