Today's postings

  1. [Baren 31038] Re: BD (old) V35 #3508---which pigment (l k)
  2. [Baren 31039] question about using acrylic paints ("Jean Womack")
  3. [Baren 31040] text size ("Jean Womack")
  4. [Baren 31041] Re: text size (Barbara Mason)
  5. [Baren 31042] Finding the time ("Jean Womack")
  6. [Baren 31043] Re: Amy's Prints, Finding the Time (edmund #
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Message 1
From: l k
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31038] Re: BD (old) V35 #3508---which pigment
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I'm beginning to look seriously into them....
I've downloaded the pigment color chart from the Baren Mall...
I've the done the same with Guerra...
I'm familiar with Sennelier pigments, as I use their watercolors and oil pastels...
so, I know their product is quality...
and there is Golden...and Kremer...etc....

Paying attention to permance factors.....
Money aside.....
and I'm not at all adverse to mixing my own as I read David Bull does.....
why would one prefer one company over the other?
I also am aware of the pigment dispersions....
I'm drawn right off the bat to what the Baren sells if only because of the quality of all else there....

Has anyone used the BarenMall pigments, and then decided to switch...
and if so why?

I know I use CarenD'ache oil pastels and "crayons" in the north for arting....
but prefer Sennelier oil pastels as I go further south on the planet.

My all time favorite pan watercolor company is Schmencke...
but, does that mean I'll be happier with their dry pigments?

Is there any kind of rule-of-thumb in making selections...
or is it just trial and error?

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Message 2
From: "Jean Womack"
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:56:32 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31039] question about using acrylic paints
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[Baren] Daily DigestPart of the enjoyment of hanga for me was exploring the various non-oily mediums that I could use on the prints, starting with watercolors and then dry pigment and water. Well, it gets into money after awhile, but I now have enough dry pigment to last me for the rest of my life, almost. I went to a Southern Graphics conference and bought a muller from Edward C. Lyons tools. Now I can make my own oil based inks. But I haven't used it yet.

I also have some Akua Color and some Createx pure pigments. I have tried mixing the dry stuff with water, alcohol and Gum Arabic. Then putting some of it into the microwave to try to liquefy the gum arabic again after it dried out, without simply waiting for it to reabsorb the water. Be careful when you do that--do it slowly. I guess it is the frustrated chemist within me, wondering why Bea Gold, for example, can get such bright cheerful colors when all I got was muted blues and yellow brown colors. Not that I can complain about those beautiful muted colors. I just wondered how I could get bright colors IF I wanted them. I couldn't print fast enough to use acrylics, but if you can do it, more power to you.

The venture into sizing my own printing paper was enough to make me open my wallet and buy sized paper from McClains. It works Oh so much better. It reminds me of the wonderful description by Mary Krieger on the Baren Encyclopedia about sized paper. It's under papers in the materials section.

Oh well, I'm rambling, so you know I am not running.

Jean Womack
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Message 3
From: "Jean Womack"
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:58:49 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31040] text size
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[Baren] Daily DigestHow do I make the text size bigger, on the html version of the listserve?
Jean Womack
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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 31041] Re: text size
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I have had that same problem...if you hit forward I think it might get bigger so you can read it easily. It works for me on my computer. It makes me wild when I cannot see the darn thing. maybe someone else will have the real answer.
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Message 5
From: "Jean Womack"
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:56:02 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31042] Finding the time
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[Baren] Daily DigestI take a camera with me everywhere I go. I get a lot of good landscape pictures, clouds, flowers, and dog and horse pictures and whatever else strikes my fancy. I take a sketch book with me often and draw from a photograph or on the spot, with magic markers, Sharpies, pencil or whatever I have on hand. Of course it looks a lot different to do a gesture drawing on the spot than a drawing from a photograph, but you could become really enamored of those gesture drawings, after you see a movie like the Sketches of Frank Gehry, for example. Up over my computer, I have this etching of horses going around in a ring with little girls sitting on them, that reminds me of my youth on top of old school horses. I did the etching. It was gesture drawings, which I somehow transferred to a plate with Wintergreen oil, and etched. After I did it, I said to myself, it's no good, and I scraped out the etching after only a couple of impressions. I put the print away and found it again a year later. Now I could kick myself, because it is my favorite print of all of them. I wish I could do it in a woodcut.

I'm always making lists of ideas for drawing lessons, painting lessons, sculpture lessons, reading art criticism in the form of California Standards, looking at pictures of paintings, drawings, sharpening my knives, cutting up pieces of birch plywood and so on. So that sort of counts as art too. Add all that to lying on the couch sick with the flu for three weeks, walking the dog, grooming the dog, feeding the dog, playing with the dog, taking care of my husband's cat, cleaning the house, church, city council meetings, weight-loss meetings, job hunting, web surfing, getting Avon training online, and so on. Marilyn Smith is much more diplomatic and elegant about describing her life. I think the idea of taking your art with you to lunch is a great idea. Also I have had some success with getting up very early to get to work very early and sit in the car and sketch from a photo or whatever. It's very peaceful and a good form of meditation before I walk into the maelstrom of a public school, which I love, by the way.

I yearn for a week watercolor painting in Mendocino, which cost about $350 just for the tuition a couple of years ago, but I made some of the best watercolors in my life that week. I'll have to forgo that this year, just can't do everything on a shoe string and I want to drive north to Sharri's shindig, if I get that week off. Besides, the coast of Oregon is something very very special that you must see at least once in your life.

Jean Womack
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Message 6
From: edmund #
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 31043] Re: Amy's Prints, Finding the Time
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Thanks Bobbi.

I hadn't used any of those search terms, odd as it may sound. I'd simply
done a search for "bookmaking," and hadn't come up with much.

== Michael

> Hi MEF,
> There are tons of sites online with handmade books. Do a Google for
> the following terms:
> book arts
> handmade books
> artists books
> artists' books
> limited edition artists' books
> miniature books
> If you find one, follow any links on them. This will take you days
> to finish.....
> Also, I have a links page on my site for book stuff:
> And have fun!
> Bobbi C.