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Message 1
From: "Jennifer Worsley"
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 07:30:03 -0600
Subject: [Baren 30746] RE: print pricing
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I find your experience with galleries interesting, Maria--it is very similar
to mine. I have been doing the art festival thing with my pastel work for
several years, and although galleries are interested in my work, collectors
seem to know by now that its better to buy a piece directly from me.
Its also interesting that you are getting more online business this year. I
have found that somewhat true--mainly though, it is my studio sales that are
growing. By simply posting on my website that my studio is open regularly
for two hours on Saturday, I get people coming over to take artwork away and
leave a nice fat check in return. Selling artwork can hardly get easier
than that. :)
It sure makes me happy to be a Capitalist.

Happy selling to you too!

Jenn Worsley
www.jenniferworsley.com

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Message 2
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:09:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30747] Re: print pricing
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> By simply posting on my website that my studio is open regularly
>for two hours on Saturday, I get people coming over to take artwork
>away and leave a nice fat check in return. Selling artwork can
>hardly get easier than that. :)
>

Hey Jenn,

Woohoo! I LOVE hearing stories like that. EZ-PZ, no fighting with
the elements.

Just curious, do you live in a large city? I live in a somewhat
rural area outside a large city (Austin)....I'm not sure people would
come out here to buy art. Most of the locals buy their art at Hobby
Lobby .....

Bobbi C.

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Message 3
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:47:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30748] Re: Still looking for some kind of press
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>Robert and Bobbi,
>
>I have found that a marble rolling pin works just fine for smaller
>plates ... Most rolling pins have a very small rod that easily bends
>when you put too much pressure on the handles. So for mine, I
>replaced the rod by a larger diameter one ... try 1/4 or 3/8 inch
>rod.
>

Thanks SO much, Charles! That sounds like it would work
perfectly.....Most of my prints are smaller, anyway.....

Bobbi C.

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Message 4
From: "DePry Clan"
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:43:00 -0700
Subject: [Baren 30749] Computer as a tool
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Would some of you agree that the computer is and has been a useful tool? We use the device for the most part everyday. I feel that we also 'print' something from our computer all the time too without blinking. Whether it a resource image for an art piece or a computer sketch worked out in Photoshop, we still print this stuff out. I see the computer and its' printer as a technological advance in printmaking. Some of you may feel that's a stretch. Think about it though, were still printing; just pushing a button and printing instead.
Now here I believe is what creates the honest debate:
Sitting in the dark, point and clicking away on the computer, nibbling on Doritos and sipping Rockstar or gouging away at a fine piece of cherry plank exercising trust in your own hand to extract an image of potency for all to enjoy?
Personally for me I have a insatible desire to create art that requires physically and the notion of 'point and clicking' in the dark lacks any feel of worth. However, the computer as a tool has a positive position in which dealing with color management or moving a compositon around can be less time consuming as opposed to sketching with cut and paste images and a fist full of colored pencils. I see this kind of pursuit in my students more and more. I believe this phenomenon to be a culture advancement with the access to computers more so than when I was in school.
Bottom line is for all of you to ask yourselves: Do I like to look at art and does it matter if it is created out of plaster and painted with watercolor and it took 34 hours of intensive labor? I think for most it doesn't matter what process the artist went through to create their work but rather does the patron love it enough to pay for it and covet it as a trophy. You as an artist have chosen to create imagery in a certain manner, under certain pains, and for a specific reasons. I mean there are easier ways to create art other than woodcuts, right ?!

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Message 5
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30750] Re: Computer as a tool
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>. I mean there are easier ways to create art other than woodcuts, right ?!>


Oh, sure there are.

And I don't think anyone here disagrees with you that the computer is
a great tool for all sorts of reasons.

As an artist who has done both digital and handpulled prints, I can
actually see the difference in the way they look. The untrained eye
might not be able to, and to them, maybe they're only buying on the
basic of size, or price.

To tell the truth, I was never happy with my digital prints, no
matter how many hours I put into them. Because the process to me
wasn't satisfying. I like working with my hands, and getting them
dirty.

I have a friend who is a traditional printmaker (etchings). She
refuses to even talk about digital prints, and refuses to even call
them a "print"... There is a lot of anxiety on her part, I think,
that the digital stuff will do away with the traditional methods. I
don't agree. I just think that they are two different markets.

Bobbi C.

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Message 6
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:55:02 EDT
Subject: [Baren 30751] press
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see if you can find a vandercook no. 1 proofing press close to ideal for
printing blocks

now if you have room for a self inking press and are a little
mechanistically inclined this would be ideal but a vandercook no. 1 is almost idiot proof
as I use one.

john c.

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Message 7
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:27:46 -0400
Subject: [Baren 30752] Matt Brown on Artelino
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Dear Bareners,

Matt Brown passed through my town today and I got a chance to meet with him
and talk shop. We were talking about Baren Forum and I asked him if he's on
the list these days. He said no, he's too busy with family and farm and
woodblocks, but he sends his regards. He also let me know that he has a solo
auction coming up on Artelino, opening May 7. There's a nice article about
him on the site:

http://www.artelino.com/articles/matt-brown.asp

Best,
Annie

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Message 8
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:11:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 30753] Re: Matt Brown on Artelino
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Annie,
How lucky your were to meet Matt...I have long admired his work and actually own a couple of his prints. You can see his work on his own site at
http://www.ooloopress.com/ . I keep looking for new works as his style is so elegant and understated.....I want them all, of course. Someday I would like to see the real "Samrts". I assume it is a mountain range. Maybe I will get to take a workshop in New Hampshire in my future...I would love to see the East Coast and think Matt would be a great instructor.
best to all,
Barbara

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Message 9
From: Blog Manager
Date: 22 Apr 2006 03:55:05 -0000
Subject: [Baren 30754] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (17 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)

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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams

Author: Annie B
Item: Matt Brown On Artelino
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/04/matt-brown-on-artelino.html

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Site Name: m.Lee Prints

Author: m.Lee
Item: Carving
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/04/carving.html

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Site Name: The Itinerant Artist

Author: Diane Cutter
Item:
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com/2006/04/more-photos-apologies-to-those-just.html

Author: Diane Cutter
Item:
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com/2006/04/ive-been-back-few-days-and-finally.html

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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
http://barenforum.org/contact_baren.php

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Message 10
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:07:14 EDT
Subject: [Baren 30755] Send Message: To this poster

Hello.

What a very astute answer.

Thanks ever so much for taking the time to write to me.

I think that I'll have to write you again... Just accidently slept after
doing some gardening and am running late in my day.

Thanks again.

ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba in studio

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Message 11
From: "aimee"
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:41:02 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30756] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V35 #3452 (Apr 20, 2006)
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regarding pricing---here are a few thoughts on the subject from my favorite
art philosopher--Robert Genn.
http://www.painterskeys.com/clickbacks/pricing.asp this includes from
feedback from a couple of familiar names....

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Message 12
From: edmund # michaelfraley.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:50:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Baren 30757] Re: Computer as a tool
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> Would some of you agree that the computer is and has been a useful tool?

Yes. I primarily use it in my work to gather, resize and composite
different reference materials. I have a Wacom tablet, but kind of got
tired of being able to "Control+Z" my way out of mistakes. Purgatory has
its uses.

>Think about it though, were still printing; just pushing
> a button and printing instead.

And John Henry was a steel-drivin' man, Lord, Lord. Honestly, that's the
way I feel about it sometimes. Sure, the machine can do the job more
accurately than me, faster than me, and doesn't even sweat about the
colour. Separations, shneparations! Just click n' go! But as a steel blade
pushin' man, I still feel driven to create the old way. I'll never beat
the machine, but I don't want for the machine to completely beat me
either.

> Bottom line is for all of you to ask yourselves: Do I like to look at art
> and does it matter if it is created out of plaster and painted with
> watercolor and it took 34 hours of intensive labor?

If you're trying to produce something that is a genuinely human
production, yes, I think so.

>I think for most it
> doesn't matter what process the artist went through to create their work
> but rather does the patron love it enough to pay for it and covet it as a
> trophy.

Let me answer that as an increasingly discontented soul who regularly
trades his talent for a paycheck. If the patron loves it and I get little
fulfillment out of it (because my investment is a few hours of digital
point n' click) then I am not going to be all that healthy. Well, let's
face it - I'm not right now.

>You as an artist have chosen to create imagery in a certain
> manner, under certain pains, and for a specific reasons. I mean there are
> easier ways to create art other than woodcuts, right ?!

I do it because it's not popular and because hardly anyone I talk to knows
what it is. Sounds like the recipe for "cool" to me, but my wife considers
it "whittling." Granted, I look at my work and realize that I'm closer to
Jed Clampett than I am to Gustave Baumann, but I still have to keep on
truckin'.

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