Today's postings

  1. [Baren 30319] Drawing on the block, and Year Of The Dog (Ragtaghorde #
  2. [Baren 30320] Thanks for "How Do You Do It" proofing ("Oscar Bearinger")
  3. [Baren 30321] Re: V34 #3403... Chattering & Blogging living together (l k)
  4. [Baren 30322] dogs and more dogs (Barbara Mason)
  5. [Baren 30323] Background noise (baren_member #
  6. [Baren 30324] Re: Background noise (L Cass)
  7. [Baren 30325] Re: Background noise (Barbara Mason)
  8. [Baren 30326] Re: Background noise (Diane Cutter)
  9. [Baren 30327] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3403 ("Marilynn Smith")
  10. [Baren 30328] Thanks ("Oscar Bearinger")
  11. [Baren 30329] Re: Background noise ("Ellen Shipley")
  12. [Baren 30330] Background noise (Dan Dew)
  13. [Baren 30331] Re: Background noise (FurryPressII #
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Message 4
From: Ragtaghorde #
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:11:32 EST
Subject: [Baren 30319] Drawing on the block, and Year Of The Dog
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I always do my preliminary drawing on the block itself. Because I work from
the western tradition and do 1-color prints (usually very dark pthalo blue,
almost black) it is 1 block = 1 image. Although I have a pretty good idea of
what the finished image will look like as I have good reverse imagination (is
that a real concept/ability?) I love the element of surprise that creeps in
without planning everything out in advance...

Finally coming up for air and looking forward to carving my Year of the Dog
card - I should have it done in the next month or so!

Since I have verrrrry slooooow dialup my visits to the pippimama site have
been slow, also, but very worthwhile!

Annie F.

Annie Fitt
& the Ragtag Horde ~ Whippets of Mass Destruction!
Wake, Virginia
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Message 1
From: "Oscar Bearinger"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:28:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30320] Thanks for "How Do You Do It" proofing
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Myron et al
many thanks for the responses about proofing.
I am using water based ink so far.
you gave me some useful processes to try, including practising patience!

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Message 2
From: l k
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:31:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 30321] Re: V34 #3403... Chattering & Blogging living together
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Hi, Bareners....
It's nice to see the chatter picking up here...
although, I would hate to see the elimination of the blogger updates.
Yeh, chatter traffic dropped off when the blogs appeared...
but, that's like the new kid in school..
sooner or later things get back to a comfortable normality.

I think the blogs are important for someone like me..
who is trying to figure this hanga thing out...
and make it work...
running into every single rule in the Murphy's Law book...
yes, there is one complete volume for Japanese Woodblock printmaking....
but, I'm successfully breaking them, one by one...
due to what I find buried deep in the Baren Archives/encyclopedia...
this forum...
and some emails shot here and there to individuals.

For me, blogs are more like windows I can look through..
and see what someone is doing/going through...
this forum is what goes on when we sit on the porch...

People who know me...or have gotten an email from me...
know my fingers are not inhibited when it comes to running all over the keyboards...
but, as far as my active participation here...
I'm still new at this.
It hasn't even been a year of moku hanga practice I've got under my belt...
which is much more fascinating for me than the oil ink printing...
and so, I'm practicing, printing, recutting my sloppy cuts, printing again.
I'm catching on...
but, am far from feeling secure enough to participate in any kind of discussion...
other than ask questions...
most of which, still can be answered with some time spent in the archives...
which, for me is time consuming due to the extremely slow dial-up land-line connection I've got.
The archives has been valuable to me with those spur of the moment questions.

Yes, I've asked a few online...
but, only when my internet connection slows way up...
or I simply can't find an answer..
I don't want to ask something that has already been clearly explained, discussed,
and archived WITH links....
unless I absolutely have to.

It was an online question that resulted in my participating in this year's YearOfTheDog...
WHICH, are drying in the other room...
I HAVE completed them...
so, all on the list...sit tight...
(As my own driving force, I have not opened or peered long at any that I've recieved...
I'm waiting until I can get mine sent out)

The forum participation ebbs and flows...
I think people had to test and see how the blog information fit into their on-line routine...
but, sooner or later...
I think people would have wandered out to their respective porches...
and the chatter would have returned...
although, I'm really happy Maria made so much noise.
I may not be an active contributor...
but, I do like the your company....
and I, too, was beginning to miss it.

I keep working at this...
sooner or later, maybe I'll be able to participate more.

OK..that's it...time to grab my knives....Linda
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Message 3
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:36:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 30322] dogs and more dogs
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What an amazing array of work....I had a real hard time picking my favorite, but on the internet, where I know things look different, I was particularly taken with the line drawings printed in red. There are three or four of them and for some reason they jumped out at me. Strong designs and the red must be a symbol for good luck or happiness or something for so many to have chosed red. I was able to see the quite quickly as I have a fast connection, but will take a little more time later to really see them all. Some very clever ideas here and some very nice work
Thanks to Sadako for her hard work in scanning them all.
Best to all,
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Message 4
From: baren_member #
Date: 14 Mar 2006 14:47:08 -0000
Subject: [Baren 30323] Background noise

Message posted from: Dale Phelps

At the 2004 MAPC conference in Lincoln, NE, I attended a workshop by Endi Poskovic, a relief printmaker who does large woodcuts. He was asked if he listened to music while he worked and answered that he never does because it ruins his concentration. As a 65 year student in art studio classes at UNI I confess that I might have been distracted by the blaring of hard rock and rap that was constantly coming from the cd player. At my studio I always have tapes or cdís from The Teaching Company plying on a variety of subjects from philosophy to history. I wondered what the rest of you do about background noise while you are making art.

Dale Phelps, Waterloo IA
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Message 5
From: L Cass
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:17:29 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30324] Re: Background noise
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In response to Dale -I have always worked with the radio on from morn to
night - we have CBC 2 (across Canada) with mostly classical music and no
commercials -I tried another station (Classical 96.3) which has great
programming but commercials which distract
I find it's also distracting to have to change cd's,
Louise Cass
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Message 6
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:04:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 30325] Re: Background noise
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This will get a a lot of different answers...I tend to listen to the oldies when I am figuring out my design (for me the oldies are the music of the 60's), and then anything soothing when actually carving. I tend to get wild if the music is too intense so easy listening for carving...saves your hands from cuts. Sometimes if I am at the kitchen table, which happens if the studio is too cold, I am reduced to listening to TV with my if the prints are not up to standard, blame the news.

But for printing....aHA! I love that latin has just the perfect beat to keep you moving consistently and not getting lazy and keeping you happy. I got addicted to it when I helped Maria print the puzzle prints..I admit to not appreciating it much before but now I really have a lot of tapes...there is a musician named Armik whose tapes I am especially fond of, but it is all good as far as I am concerned. Both for printing on the press and printing by hand...the rhythm is perfect.
Best to all,

I wondered what the rest of you do about background noise while you are making art.

Dale Phelps, Waterloo IA
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Message 7
From: Diane Cutter
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:07:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 30326] Re: Background noise
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This is always an interesting subject, Dale...

For me, when I'm planning or designing, I prefer quiet solitude, just the noises of birds, coquis (tree frogs), wind in the palms or rain. Like your relief printmaker, I find words and tunes distracting...

However, when I'm actually cutting or painting or printing, then I do like music and it can range from everything, both mainstream and electic (except rap and opera)... My current favorites are the scores from 'Last of the Mohicans' and 'Black Hawk Down' and Ronstadt's 'Canciones de mi Padre' album ... but I still have to be careful when I'm cutting because if the music is too raucous, I get carried away...

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Message 8
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:54:51 -0700
Subject: [Baren 30327] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3403
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Since we have been busy chatting about how work is made, how we proceed I
think it is valid to say that looking at others work is often a very good
way to grow. While, yes, I found it tiring to open all the blog pages and
some times I have not, seeing others work is vital. This book I found on
Fran Lloyd Wright has many many of his drawings and describes his approach
and the way he obtained perspective. I have not begun carving my latest
block, busy here with friends visiting. But since I drew these lopsided
structures on a long narrow board I have been reading this book. Along came
new ideas on how to proceed with this print. Seems I had no inspiration and
when it arrived something new will happen. So looking is vital.
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Message 9
From: "Oscar Bearinger"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:32:53 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30328] Thanks
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thanks to all who gave me ideas about the proofing process
useful suggestions
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Message 10
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:16:55 -0800
Subject: [Baren 30329] Re: Background noise
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When I'm really in the groove I can tune out most distraction, but I like
classical music or jazz for separating me from the rest of the world. It's
like being in a little printmaking bubble and time does not exist.

Otherwise random jingles run through my head ad nausium.

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Message 11
From: Dan Dew
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:49:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 30330] Background noise
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Ah, I am the only 44 year old, bald, overweight WASP that I know of
that cranks up rap when I print!
My family thinks I'm nuts, but I love it.

Daniel L. Dew
Tampa, FL
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Message 12
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:55:42 EST
Subject: [Baren 30331] Re: Background noise
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When I am carving I put on Country music and when I am printing I put on
Talk radio. When I am home alone it is too quiet not to have something on.

john c.