Today's postings

  1. [Baren 29744] Dogs, etc. (L Cass)
  2. [Baren 29745] questions (FurryPressII #
  3. [Baren 29746] Re: questions (Dan Dew)
  4. [Baren 29747] Re: questions ("robert")
  5. [Baren 29748] Re: questions (FurryPressII #
  6. [Baren 29749] Re: questions (derrick sampson)
  7. [Baren 29750] Re: questions (FurryPressII #
  8. [Baren 29751] Re: questions (eli griggs)
  9. [Baren 29752] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V34 #3321 (Jan 3, 2006) ("phare-camp #")
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Message 1
From: L Cass
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:07:21 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29744] Dogs, etc.
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John Center -what a wonderful print! is it a wood engraving or a woodcut?
Ira Greenberg thanks for the fey rooster-also received Frank Trueba's great
assortment of dogs - they are coming fast and furiously - this looks like
the most exciting year so far for me (I only began with the year of the
Sheep) I know I still owe Roosters and even a few monkeys but all will
arrive in time

A question on a much discussed topic just to refresh my memory - one of my
(painting) students is an accomplished wood-carver and has put me on to a
local wood supplier (didn't know the place existed) very close to me in the
city -they offer cherry, maple, mahogany, basswood, oak as well as pine of
which I've too much -their prices for preparing blocks seem okay so I'm
really excited at the prospect of good wood. I liked the cherry ply Maria
A. provided for the puzzle project and am wondering which of the other
woods would be interesting to try for someone who has a big problem
sharpening tools??!! Somehow I managed to do quite well with the cherry but
my tools may have been in better shape.
Louise Cass
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Message 2
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:37:50 EST
Subject: [Baren 29745] questions
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The dog print is a wood cut plank grain maple

I have a question what is the difference between Japan dryer and Colbalt

john c.
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Message 3
From: Dan Dew
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29746] Re: questions
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One is made in Japan and one is made in Colbalt?
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Message 4
From: "robert"
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:44:03 +0000
Subject: [Baren 29747] Re: questions
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Cobalt Drier and Japan Drier:
Both Cobalt and Japan Drier are traditional painting mediums which should only be used by those well experienced in their use. They are used invery small quantities to decrease the drying time of oil paints and alter the finish of the paint. A drier accelerates or initiates the drying of an oil paint or oil by promoting oxidation and will wrinkle the paintfilm if too much is used. "Top driers" which cause the surface of a film to dry before the interior, can be most harmful to paint films. "Through driers" can cause the whole film to dry at once, and so are safer. Cobalt Drier speeds the drying time of oils and Japan Drier speeds drying time, improves flow and increases gloss. Toxicity Rating: Highly toxic Use with extreme care.
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Message 5
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:00:09 EST
Subject: [Baren 29748] Re: questions
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I have used cobalt drying for a number of years it is very useful for
printing multi colored oil based prints. If you are doing a color reduction print
it is very important to use it. If you print only one color it is not a
problem as the ink dries both through the air and in absorbing into the paper
but the next layer dries only through air evaporation. With multi layered
printings the ink starts to take weeks to dry.

I asked the question about the difference between japan and colbalt dryer
because I had never used japan dryer before.

john c.
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Message 6
From: derrick sampson
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:09:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29749] Re: questions
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as well as being a drying agent colbalt dryer often
has the added effect of layer and color separation. I
would recommend testing it out before you use it to do
larger or finished works.


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Message 7
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:59:05 EST
Subject: [Baren 29750] Re: questions
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I have used cobalt dryer for at least 10 years. Esp. with hand inking.
Vandercook self inking is not as much of a problem as the ink layer is much

john c.
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Message 8
From: eli griggs
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:21:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 29751] Re: questions
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Japan dryer should never be used in artist grade
materials for any reason. It is suited to less
demanding commercial products. Cobalt dryer is very
powerful and may already be part of your artists'
paints and inks. It is better too little than too

Ralph Mayer 'The Artist's Handbook of Materials and
Techniques : Fifth Edition, Revised and Updated'
(Artists' Handbook of Materials and Techniques)can
clear-up any questions as to the need for and action
of such materials and should be the first book any
artist acquires,IMO.

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Message 9
From: "phare-camp #"
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:41:22 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29752] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V34 #3321 (Jan 3, 2006)
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I have until the 29th since classes start on the 30th, once classes start I
have no life...BTW I did not mean to blow you off on our museum date. It
was midterms, the work was hard and demanding, everything else just flew
out of my little mind. It was several weeks later while driving in rush
hour traffic that I did an oh-shit I totally flaked on a committment with
Maggie and Lindsey! That tells you how hard on-line ed is. It's cool to
go to school in your underwear, but there is a trade-off in the level of

Unlike a classroom critique where classmate's works are all hung on the
wall to be scanned in one sitting, you have several clicks to each
inividual's post and if the class is large...well I was not so good in
dicussion in my figure studio class with over 25 classmates. Although in
my mixed media (awesome - the most fun class I've ever taken) had only 2
classmates and it was easy.

When the technology of the on-line course works (like in my mixed media)
it's awesome--but when it fails (figure studio) it's disasterous! I didn't
get all the cds, most of the class never received the model cd -- big DUH!
Figure studio - hard to do without a model! It took several weeks to get
models posted to the website and then they were flash files so you couldn't
download them, meaning you had to be online to draw--I pity the students in
bumf-ck idaho who don't have access to broadband (or the female student in
dubai who has no access to live models...) The demonstration cds for the
mixed media class were superior, but the figure demos were poor, poor
instruction and poor editing quality (very choppy, lots of important stuff
cut out) I can understand the experimental instruction/technology having
bugs to work out but there is no excuse for sloppy video and editing work,
especially since Academy of Art has been a forerunner in the video field
for decades!

Next semester it's another 20th century art history class and an etching
class. Supposed to focus on solar and other non-toxic etching techniques.
We'll see...I sure hope I can learn something new about non-toxic printing
techniques since I've only been an advocate for over 15 years...

Enough bitching, I'm planning on sometime before the semester starts to do
a printing with recycled materials demo in my home, I'll let you know
details soon, just in case you and Lindsey are interested.

Well, gots to cut my lunch short, I just got work that quarterly reports
are due tomorrow...sheesh, nothing like training by fire...

Cheers to the New Year,
Patti P-C