Today's postings

  1. [Baren 28129] Re: Harry French's latest prints ("James G. Mundie")
  2. [Baren 28130] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3092 (Jun 14, 2005) ("Joshua Norton")
  3. [Baren 28131] RE: Baren Digest (old) V31 #3092 ("marilynn smih")
  4. [Baren 28132] RE: prices on website ("Maria Diener (aka Arango)")
  5. [Baren 28133] Re: prices on website (ArtfulCarol #
  6. [Baren 28134] Latest Harry French ("Love Me")
  7. [Baren 28135] paypal (cucamongie #
  8. [Baren 28136] Works in progress (ANDY ENGLISH)
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Message 1
From: "James G. Mundie"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:30:51 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28129] Re: Harry French's latest prints
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On 13 Jun 2005 Harry French wrote:

> I have uploaded my latest prints of Cornwall, UK... [snip]


My, my, my! You have been busy! I especially like your original sketch
of the houses on Kynance Cove. There's a wonderful balance and movement
through the drawing, and nicely composed across the spread of the pages.
The print went in a different direction - not bad, just different.

I wonder whether you've ever considered doing photocopy transfers of your
original sketches onto the block? I think you might get some really
interesting effects if you employed your usual color reduction techniques
and then overprinted a 'keyblock' cut from your original sketches. The
color would enhance the keyblock, while the keyblock would reintroduce
overall structure. The key wouldn't need to be black, but could be
another bright contrasting or even complimentary color. Just a thought!


James G. Mundie
Philadelphia PA, U.S.A.
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Message 2
From: "Joshua Norton"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:35:14 -0600
Subject: [Baren 28130] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3092 (Jun 14, 2005)
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I really enjoyed looking at your work. You display a mastery of expressive line that is indeed rare.
Barbara's question about pricing got me thinking. I dont list prices on my site either. Does anyone
have opinions about listing prices on the web? I feel a bit torn. As it stands, I dont list prices. The
interested buyer has to contact me for that info, but does putting that additional step discourage
sales? Im not really sure. Any thoughts?
Harry, Im interested in WOODCUT OF THE LEVANT TIN MINE, CORNWALL. Are any left and how
much? Feel free to email me directly:

Oh, and thanks for the warm welcome to the barenforum! Im really happy that I stumbled across it
and joined up. I love finding these letters in my inbox.
burning artist co-op
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Message 3
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:47:51 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28131] RE: Baren Digest (old) V31 #3092
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Harry, great work as always. I think you should just keep doing what you are doing and not think too hard because I like the work a lot.
Updates from me, my roosters are finished. I have to sign them and address them and then they will be flying to their homes.
I think my plate for dreams and visions is complete. I will proof it and then if so, I will be printing as soon as that studio is fully cleaned out. Argh, I have shoveled out some stuff, but more to go!
Have received several personal emails about my comments on the mail that stated it was from paypal. Because so many of you use paypal it is worth mentioning again. If anyone online ever asks you for your social security number and bank routing information it is a scam and never give it out. You can forward these emails to paypal, you have to set the email so the entire header information is included, I have forgotten how, but you can check out how to forward scam emails. Be safe out there and if they ask you to update information remember all they need are your current card number and mailing address. Your social security number and banking information are private, never give that info out online.
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Message 4
From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:28:00 -0700
Subject: [Baren 28132] RE: prices on website
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My tidbit on prices on the website...
If you want to sell through the website, have prices on the website. Big
drawback is that, as your prices change, the website has to change. One way
to get around having to change every page where works are shown is to have a
price list, list all your works there and change that page only. Direct your
buyers to the price list and have contact information AND steps on how to
buy a work (call me, email me, send cash, etc.). Many people won't ask those
Still, many people just won't ask and you will lose a potential sale; worst
part of that is that you never really know.
If the purpose of the website is mainly to show the art, then prices don't
matter. I have only had one phone call in 8 years of someone asking for the
price of a block that was not listed on the web. Every other sale from the
website has been shopping cart, click click click...

In the festival world if your prices aren't posted nobody asks, they just
walk out of the booth and move on to the next. Few times when I have had
tags fall off I have heard people ask me if the piece was for sale at all;
in the art world, displaying art not for sale is a very valid assumption
when something is not priced.
Surfing the web is even more anonymous and there is much more competition so
people looking to buy art will just move on. The exception of course is that
piece that someone will fall in love with and have to have it at all costs,
but that is a small percentage of sales.

Just MHO, of course.


Maria Arango
Las Vegas Nevada USA
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Message 5
From: ArtfulCarol #
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:37:47 EDT
Subject: [Baren 28133] Re: prices on website
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Maria, my experience is the same.
I have had lots of images on the web with no reference to selling and have
received many responses in my guest book or e-mail responses using the same
words--- how inspired these viewers were or how my work is an inspiration to
them. Inspiring is all well and good but, no one asked about pricing.
So I will make a reference to the fact that work is for sale.

Thank you for bringing up this subject. So obvious to see, so easy to
correct, also easy to miss up. Or should I say mess up? NO!

Carol Lyons
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Message 6
From: "Love Me"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:10:57 +1000
Subject: [Baren 28134] Latest Harry French
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Congratulations Harry, I am very excited by your latest work. Thanks for sharing it. Great compositions and beautiful colour and texture. Everything is working well for you. Except maybe the lino combined with the reduction process (as you mention).

My suggestion; use the lino for large textured areas of colour and timber for the fine stuff. Go for multiple blocks and you can get the printing just how you like it, and make copies for all to enjoy!

I myself have been carving into birch ply for a year to build up my skills before moving on to try cherry. So, having carved perhaps 100 birch blocks, I finally carved my first cherry block and it is an amazing material. Easy to carve, yet the lines stand up crisply. In order to carve into timber you need to be able to sharpen the tools - I bought a Tormek sharpening wheel which makes it all too easy - and you need to be able to see what you are doing. I have a fluoro magnifying lamp, with a 3 dioptre lens:
This helps with sharpening and carving. When carving you can follow the lines easily and see the angle of the blade. Most importantly, you can also see how deep the tip is biting into the timber - too deep and it is hard to move fluidly - get it just right and it feels easy.

Multiblock printing also needs an easy way to produce multiple copies of the hanshita - If you can get your drawings/designs into a computer it is an easy thing to print them out with kento marks. I use an A3 printer that can print onto wrapping tissue, when lightly adhered to standard printing paper. Simply spray the backing sheet with spray adhesive and it can be reused many times.

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Message 7
From: cucamongie #
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:32:27 -0400
Subject: [Baren 28135] paypal
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Marilynn, I get these phony message that appear to be from paypal all the time (and similar ones that appear to be from ebay) saying that my account is going to be closed, etc. I delete them without even opening them.

DO NOT click on these links or fill any information in. These types of emails are phony. The real Ebay and paypal will never have links like this or ask you to fill in information. Ebay even has a page on their website regarding these types of emails at

Paypal has a similar page at

I know this is not woodblock-related but as the problem was mentioned, I thought I would share what I know about it.

best wishes

Marilynn said:
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Message 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:02:50 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Baren 28136] Works in progress
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I know that "blogs" are not everyone's cup of tea but
I am finding this a useful way to keep a record of the
work that I am doing as it only takes a moment of each
day. Please have a look:

Anyone else here doing anything similar? Let me know
as I'd like to gather together a list of printmaking


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