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Message 1
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 07:46:20 -0700
Subject: [Baren 27968] RE: Baren Digest (old) V31 #3061
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I followed the link and reread David's gallery talk. Interesting how hanga done right has changed my perspective. By that I mean using pigments I have mixed myself, a baren to apply them and that beautiful Japanese paper. I gave a girl friend one of my prints done this way, for her 65th birthday. She had told me she had no more wall space to hang things and I believe I already shared with the group that I made a folder for the print. One day I was in her condo and she had my print propped up under a very strong light from her lamp. I was horrified and told her to please not expose this delicate print pigment to such harsh light. She asked if it could be framed?? Well yes but I told her to keep it in the folder and take it out to enjoy it. Some how people have a fear that holding prints and looking at them will destroy them, perhaps get fingerprints on them or something???

Another thing, I love that wonderful Japanese paper. It enhances the print, it is vitally important to the image. I was told by an artist friend that one should paint on every corner of paper, use all the edges. But in a print the edges frame the image and the paper is a thing of beauty. When I told him that printmakers often leave margin he called the work sketches. Whatever, I did not get a chanch to show him otherwise, sadly.

I have learned to hold a print in natural light and look at it. One can see all the beauty and it has life. When stuck in a frame and hung on a wall something special is lost. Touching is one of mans senses and to feel a print as well as see a print is part of the process. Now I am finiding that I want to sell all my prints in folders, not in frames.

I want people to really look at the whole process, the paper, the pigment, wonder how it was done and feel it, sense it touch it.

Marilynn

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Message 2
From: Nancy Osadchuk
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 09:39:50 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27969] Unknown artist
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Unknown artist
Here is a query from another habitual lurker! I bought this woodcut at an antique show two years ago. My scanner cut off the left side where there is a crane and so I suppose it is a construction site of some sort. Is anyone able to read the 'notes on the back'? Date is obviously 1961.
http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nosadchuk2001/my-photos and click on Russian Woodcut. Maybe it isn't even Russian?

Am enjoying all the wonderful innovative roosters gathering here.
Nancy O.

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Message 3
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 27970] Re: Unknown artist
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Tried the link but got this message:
Sorry, nosadchuk2001 has not enabled any public albums in their account.

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Message 4
From: Nancy Osadchuk
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 09:48:21 -0600
Subject: [Baren 27971] Unknown artist
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I may have given the wrong address for the woodcut link, here is another: http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nosadchuk2001
Sorry, not very computer savvy yet!
Nancy O.

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Message 5
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 14:42:24 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27972] Re: Baren Digest (old) V31 #3061
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Marilynn wrote:
>...I was horrified and told her to please not expose this delicate print
>pigment to such harsh light.

If you are using reasonably lightfast pigments, this shouldn't be a problem
(the manufacturer usually rates the pigments for lightfastness, or refer to
Meyer or other reference... BUT many traditional Japanese papers do tend
to darken with age and exposure to light...

> She asked if it could be framed?? Well yes but I told her to keep it
> in the folder and take it out to enjoy it. Some how people have a fear
> that holding prints and looking at them will destroy them, perhaps get
> fingerprints on them or something???

'looking' won't hurt a thing, but I agree with your friend -- oils from
skin _will_ darken the paper, leaving dark 'fingerprints' after a few
years! The more the paper is handled with bare hands, the worse it is --
it's a good idea never to touch dry paper with bare hands -- damp paper
tends to repel oils, but will not repel dirty hands...

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 6
From: Mary Brooks-Mueller
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 27973] Re: ink in tubes/ Chicago
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Hello members,
If anyone has an interest in Antonio Frasconi the Fine
Arts Museun San Fransisco has a nice web page where
you can magnify the tiny images on their site to 24"
and look at the details.
Here's the link:

http://search.famsf.org:8080/search.shtml?keywords
=antonio+frasconi

Mary Ann
Mexico

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Message 7
From: "Love Me"
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:14:16 +1000
Subject: [Baren 27974] Tool Testimonial
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As a semi-newby I would like to sing the praises of clearing chisels. I recently received from the Baren mall two large scooped nomi and from McClains a beautiful mallet. These tools have made carving much easier and faster. The push tools are great, but anyone struggling with the physical task of carving and wondering about powertools and computer carving (as I was) should first try these mallet driven hand tools. Plus, with encouragement from Mike, I have experimented with grinding down the soft steel of my hangi-to produce a thinner keener blade, this has made the knife glide more easily and produce more accurate lines.

Tom

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Message 8
From: "Connie Lambert"
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:12:51 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27975] RE: New Baren Digest (HTML) V31 #3061 (May 8, 2005)
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Just wanted to say Hello and thanks for the vasoline and tube ideas. Not
sure why those very simple yet effective things didn't occur to me. Go
figure.

Thanks again, Connie

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