Today's postings

  1. [Baren 27650] Re: New Baren Digest (Laughing Crow Studio)
  2. [Baren 27651] Re: Why varnish (Tyrus Clutter)
  3. [Baren 27652] Re: Why varnish (FurryPressII #
  4. [Baren 27653] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1, 2005) ("Liz Horton")
  5. [Baren 27654] Re: Princess paintings ("Diane Cutter")
  6. [Baren 27655] RE: siren speaks of delights of cherry ("Maria Diener (aka Arango)")
  7. [Baren 27656] Vanish the Varnish ("Love Me")
  8. [Baren 27657] congrats (cucamongie #
  9. [Baren 27658] sharp tools (Barbara Mason)
  10. [Baren 27659] email bounce (Barbara Mason)
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Message 1
From: Laughing Crow Studio
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:28:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 27650] Re: New Baren Digest
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Dear Princess,

I loved the View from El Morro -- and great paintings!
> If you did not go and look at the work of Princess Rashid you missed
> some nice work...
Thanks to everyone for the nice words on the book illustrations. But
really, I am open to constructive criticism, too. I want this to come out
well, so the next book can be woodcuts with subjects of my choosing. The
next four figurative plates are the more cliche ones: the manger scene,
Mary and Joseph, Mary and Baby, and Mary and Angel Gabriel. Those are
going to be the tough ones...


Lezle Williams
Laughing Crow Studio
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Message 2
From: Tyrus Clutter
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:58:51 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27651] Re: Why varnish
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I think it was Dan Dew who turned me on to the idea of misting my blocks
with polyurethane. I do work with oil ink so I know this is slightly a
different animal than hanga. However, I tend to use poplar--one main reason
is I like the grain and use it in my designs. As designs have become more
complex with thinner lines this has helped me not obliterate some important
design elements.

All this being said, Maria is the voice of a siren. Maybe that cherry wood
will be used in my next design.


Tyrus Clutter
Director, Christians in the Visual Arts
255 Grapevine Road
Wenham, MA 01984

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connecting the artist, the Church, and the culture.
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Message 3
From: FurryPressII #
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:53:58 EST
Subject: [Baren 27652] Re: Why varnish
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and if you think cherry doesn't chip plank grain maple never chips and
thin lines can you cut hummmmm. as thin as any. I wonder if the Japanese
would have used maple if they had it.

john c.
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Message 4
From: "Liz Horton"
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:15:12 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27653] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V31 #3020 (Apr 1, 2005)
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Speaking of cherry-

Can you buy it at a local hardwood store, or online (and if so, where), and
prepare it yourself? (What does preparation involve?) Or do you need to
track down a printmaking vendor? (If so, which one?)

Liz Horton

>Aaah...shhhh, a voice from the dark suddenly surrounds Carol and whispers
>gently, persistently...chhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy

>Again, and again, the voice insists, "join us, grasshopper, it is
>time...tryyy cherrrrry...join ussss..."

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Message 5
From: "Diane Cutter"
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:44:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27654] Re: Princess paintings
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What a tiny place this world is!!! I met Princess some years back when our art guild in Puerto Rico was just starting... I always wondered where she went to and now I know... What beautiful work! I especially like the cats!!

Diane... -- New oil paintings (calla lilies) - internet artist community
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Message 6
From: "Maria Diener (aka Arango)"
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:47:57 -0800
Subject: [Baren 27655] RE: siren speaks of delights of cherry
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If you have a good lumberyard locally, they will carry plank cherry.
Maple is available everywhere, yes, dear John! ;-) and it is just as good.
If you get hard maple you will curse both John and I and probably try to
send us your arthritis medication bill, so try for soft maple.

Otherwise, is where I get my cherry, or search
Google for plank cherrywood and you might find a local supplier. It is
sometimes best to get a bunch at a time due to shipping charges (it is
heavy). I get about 20 boards at a time, as wide as I can get them. I have
also had Brian (the lakeshorehardwoods-guy) join me some boards for special
projects (24" x 36").
Cherry comes about 12" wide, no wider but as long as you want. The boards I
get are about 3/4" to 7/8" thick. Please be advised that some heartwood is
possible, which means some rather challenging carving at times. The darker
the wood, the harder to carve. Boards will usually come planed but rather
rough for my taste so I sand to taste (220, 320, 400, 600) to make them
slick as glass.

I also believe that McClain's? and/or Graphic Chem? have plank cherry? Seems
to me one of the printmaking suppliers had ready-to-carve plank cherry or
maple...Rembrandt? Rennaisance? Happy surfing!


Maria Arango
Las Vegas Nevada USA
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Message 7
From: "Love Me"
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:14:57 +1000
Subject: [Baren 27656] Vanish the Varnish
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Thanks to all who offered an opinion on varnish. We seem to be split on the need for varnish.

When I did my first dozen prints I did oil my blocks, before carving, with linseed oil. I noticed that the oiled surface was not as smooth as before oiling, so I stopped oiling. I could not see a difference, in chipping when carving, or in printing.

My opinion is that I dont think varnish or oil will help to turn birch ply into cherry, it is what it is, and it works without varnish. So, I leave the solvents alone, and get on with the carving. Time saved by not varnishing can be better spent on sharpening the tools.

Tom K
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Message 8
From: cucamongie #
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:13:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 27657] congrats
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congrats Lezle, Princess, Bette and whoever else I may have forgotten:)

Lezle, I love what you have done with these prints and they do not look cliche at all. I love the stark simplicity and graphic quality of the lines and composition.

Princess, I enjoyed your work, the fencing paintings are so dynamic, and I loved looking at the other paintings and prints also. Is the one of the cat a portrait of one of your four "strange cats", as you say in your statement? :)

Bette congrats also, interesting print, I like the effect with the chalk dust, what an interesting idea.

happy artmaking all!!

best wishes
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Message 9
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:18:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 27658] sharp tools
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Words to live by......can I find someone to come over and sharpen mine???? I am so lax about it...shame on me. And I have no excuse at all as I certainly learned how. Maybe if I got one of those electric water stones...that's no coubt what I need.
best to all,

Time saved by not varnishing can be better spent on sharpening the tools.

Tom K
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Message 10
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 00:38:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 27659] email bounce
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Your email is is the message I got when I sent a reminder for Exchange #24
I assume you are working like a little beaver on #24....

>Bad address --
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