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Message 1
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 07:38:21 -0600
Subject: [Baren 26561] Re: fading pigment
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At 03:23 PM 12/4/2004, you wrote:
>Gayle wrote:
>I wonder if you would be able to talk
> > more about your research with us, especially about the reds. Which
> > reds in which brands, for instance, did you find impermanent? Is
> > this true with oil based inks also? I have read that the alizarin hues
> > are fugitive but not the cadmiums? Anything you can share will be
> > appreciated.

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-- Mike


Mike Lyon
Kansas City, Missouri
http://mlyon.com

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Message 2
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 08:59:13 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26562] Re: Fwd: engraving, ink...prints...
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Message 3
From: "Matt Laine"
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:23:47 -0500
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Please excuse the prior post -- it was an old post and this old pos=er hit the wrong key.

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Message 4
From: GWohlken
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26564] Color Layering in Oils
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I'd like to thank everyone, too, for answering the questions asked by
Jeff. It's nice to have all that in one digest, and it's particularly
helpful about layering color with oil based inks. I have seen some
beautiful prints in oil inks and have wondered how the effects were
achieved. It seems there's a great deal of skill involved, and
patience. I usually like to work with few colors and not much
overlaying just because I haven't been able to make successful prints,
otherwise. There are blues that seem to affect other colors in
overlaying and you need lots of experience knowing what will print
well over what. It can be frustrating.

Looks like I'll have to get that Wilcox book people are suggesting.
Thanks, Carole and Randi.

~Gayle/Ohio

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Message 5
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:38:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 26565] Re: Color Layering in Oils
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Everyone,
I made my own color charts, I ran a strip of a color one way and then one the opposite way on a piece of plexi-glas, and repeated with every color in a huge grid. Then I printed this large grid...and wrote the names of the colors when dry...so it is very easy for me to see what one color looks like over another. Again, this ink was transparent so the color changed dramatically when over lapped. It is a foolproof cheat sheet, hanging in a prominent place in the studio. I have an old brain that needs help....but I too may get this book!
Best to all,
Barbara


. There are blues that seem to affect other colors in
overlaying and you need lots of experience knowing what will print
well over what. It can be frustrating.
~Gayle/Ohio

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Message 6
From: ReadDevine # aol.com
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26566] Re: shunga in the new year
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With apologies to John & Tom (and anyone else who loves this idea), could I request that you might not explore this theme? - I know - no art should be censored and all that, and if you choose to go ahead its your right which I will respect. I just have to admit to being a bit of a prude.

Mellissa Read-Devine


John Center writes that the year of the Rooster could also be year of the Cock and jokes that perhaps he might send out a card with a shunga theme. Having seen his fantastic contribution to the recent shunga exchange, I encourage John to pluck up courage and show us what he's got.

Tom

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Message 7
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:15:14 EST
Subject: [Baren 26567] Re: shunga in the new year
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i was being tounge in cheek

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Message 8
From: ReadDevine # aol.com
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:48:21 -0500
Subject: [Baren 26568] Re: shunga in the new year
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I do have a sense of humour, honest! Must be Monday.
Here's a printmaking question to make up for it: In woodengraving - how fine a grade of sandpaper does one go when sanding the block. (I'm feeling lazy as well as morose)

Mellissa

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