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Message 1
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:14:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25521] Re: wood question
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Mary Ann,
They make a commercial product called KILZ that comes in a spray can...I think it is only white. Most paint stores have it, I got my last can at Home Depot. If you spray it lightly, I think it would do the job and also allow some of the dark wood to show through. I have used it for years on rental houses when covering who knows what on walls and ceilings. It really works well. There are other brands that do the same thing, and almost nothing will bleed through it. I think it is just lacquer which might also work.
Best to you,
Barbara

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Message 2
From: Lana Lambert
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 06:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25522] Re: SGC
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If anyone wants to send me some information about a
potential booth and set up with pamphlets and demos,
please email me because I just graduated from the
Corcoran and can talk with Georgia Deal and Scip
Barnhart. I'm sure Georgia would love to have us
there and I'm volunteering to help her anyway.

Wow, I've never heard of Kuchi-e! It sounds
intriguing! Does anyone have any good visual links?

Also, FYI, the home made vermillion paste was a waste.
I finally found my original supply and tried my chops
with both and it was no comparison.

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Message 3
From: "carol wagner"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:32:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25523] Re: New Baren Digest (Text) V28 #2715 (Jul 10, 2004)
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Sharrie,

You wrote,

>If you are interested in more news about the article which we are not
>allowed to mention and have not received an update via private message
>let me know and I will forward the latest to you.

I could not find your e-mail address or I would not have posted here. Please
forward said information.

Maria,

I can't wait for another Great puzzle print exchange! Whoopee.

Carol in Sacramento
carolwagner@softcom.net

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Message 4
From: "April Vollmer"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:16:11 -0400
Subject: [Baren 25524] Utamaro in Chains/Frogman's
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Dear All,

Last week I read Michael on ukiyo-e printmakers as rebels. The Tokugawa
shogunate (1600-1868) was the time of the rise of the middle class through
the power of money. The new culture of commerce opposed and gradually
overcame the hierarchy of the ruling elite, founded on the power of the
samurai sword. I can't think of any printmaker who gave up their LIFE for
the "freedom" to print, though Utamaro was manacled for a month, and
disgraced at the end of his life for prints that made insinuations about the
shogun. (It is still debated exactly what print so offended the shogun and
why.) Generally ideas for the prints began with the publisher, who wanted
something he knew would sell. Prints were a group effort. The floating world
was opposed to the fixed hierarchy, but not in the same way that
contemporary artists rebel against censorship.

A great period, when prints were at the center of public life!

I just got back from a fabulous week teaching Japanese woodblock at
Frogman's Print and Paper Workshop in Vermillion South Dakota. What a blast,
spending a week with a hundred intensely dedicated printmakers! I had a
class of fourteen, and each student made an edition of twenty 4-color
woodcuts. Great people, from all over the country. There isn't a lot to do
in Vermillion but print, so everyone got a lot done. I will not say anything
bad about Vermillion, suffice it to say, if you want sushi, go somewhere
else! Great for steak, though!

Next week I go to Santa Fe, for more teaching.
http://www.makingartsafely.com/ First time I've been to Santa Fe, so I look
forward to it.

April

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Message 5
From: GraphChem # aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:50:51 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25525] Re: western oil based vs western water based ink
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Come guys....again, the Graphic water soluble ink is not acrylic based -
never has been. John's comments not withstanding, it's still a far superior ink
to others mentioned. Go back to posts from this group a year or so ago.

Dean

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Message 6
From: GraphChem # aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 17:28:13 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25526] Re: SGC
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If you really want to put on a demonstration at SGC, I'd be happy to have
you use part of the space that Graphic Chemical will be using during the product
fair. It's not ideal, but there's a lot of traffic going by all of the
time. Not coincidentally, I believe that your demonstrating will help us as well
in terms of traffic. I haven't seen floor plans yet, but I am reasonably sure
that we can get a table or two without going broke. If you are interested,
we would absorb the cost of the space. And, we won't try to limit materials
that you use ...no matter who makes them.

Dean Clark
Graphic Chemical & Ink Company

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Message 7
From: "Mary Ann Brooks-Mueller"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Baren 25527] Re: wood question
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Yes, it is and the ties are not intended for home building in the USA. But, here in Mexico railroad ties have been used as door and window frames, as well as a material for sculpture and blockprinting for 150 years. Etchers know about the risks of many materials, like asphaltum & acids.
Anyhow, I'm trying to deal with the risks given the commission which involves a home built with ties used as door beams. Can't remove them, so trying to alter them.

>isnt creasote a carcinogen??

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Message 8
From: "Mary Ann Brooks-Mueller"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:44:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 25528] Re: wood question
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Barbara,
Thanks for that reminder. I was looking for some aluminum or zinc based primer and forgot about Kilz. Don't know if I can locate it here, but will look at the big ferrateria (hardware) nearby. I wonder if I should shellac over the Kilz???
Have you ever heard of a primer called Vessey?
By the way, I noticed another Mary here somewhere and so have gone to using my whole name, (Mary Ann) as I'm used to, to avoid confusion. Hope I haven't added any.
Thank you!
Mary Ann
Mexico

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Message 9
From: "April Vollmer"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 17:55:37 -0400
Subject: [Baren 25529] SGC
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Amanda, I am interested in doing something for the DC SGC meeting, I am not
sure if I can make the one in Madison, but maybe.

April

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Message 10
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:55:38 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25530] Re: western oil based vs western water based ink
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Hello Dean,

Is it rewettable???

Waiting to hear .... Charles

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Message 11
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:11:35 +0000
Subject: [Baren 25531] Re: wood question
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Hi Mary Ann,

There used to be a primer called SPS. It is a shellac primer sealer and it would cover and seal anything. Don't know if they still make this product though and the acryllic based sealers don't perform nearly as well.

The last time I saw this product was in a store that sold Benjamin Moore Paint.

Barbara P.

Mary Ann Brooks-Mueller wrote:
>I am working on a print commission that involves some creosote railroad ties
> (long explanation!).
> I would like to be able to paint or coat the ties to lighten them. I know
> creosote dissolves paint or seeps through. Anybody know a solution to a
> barrier, like a primer or something that I can use to contain the creosote
> and then paint the ties?
> Thanks to anyone who knows!
> Mary Ann
> Mexico

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Message 12
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:01:08 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25532] Re: western oil based vs western water based ink
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i was never talking about graphic water based ink. I was talking about
their oil based ink which i do like a lot.

john c.

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Message 13
From: GraphChem # aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 21:22:46 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25533] Re: western oil based vs western water based ink
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Charles

No it's not rewettable. I know that can be a problem for some techniques,
but when we started developing the line back in the early 50's or so, that's
what printmakers wanted.

Dean

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Message 14
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 19:26:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Baren 25534] Graphic Chemical Water Based Ink
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I've used Graphic Chemical Water Based inks and I really like them. What I look for in a water based ink is for such an animal to have pretty much the feel (viscosity, tack) and the look of an oil based ink--I never was interested in a re-wettable product.
The Graphic Chemical colors I've used have been highly pigmented, with a high degree of opacity. On Graphic Chemical's website it is suggested that they be thinned with the extender they sell (which I've done when I wanted a slightly looser ink), as opposed to trying to thin them with water.
Margaret Szvetecz ( margarszv@earthlink.net )

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Message 15
From: "Mary Ann Brooks-Mueller"
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:56:35 -0500
Subject: [Baren 25535] Re: wood question
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Hi Barbara,
Thanks again for this info. I will try and track it down and do some experiementation.
my best,
Mary Ann
Mexico

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