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Message 1
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 23:18:03 +0800
Subject: [Baren 25068] Colour contamination
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Well I have printed my edition for the Exchange #21 Elements, Haiku,
Surimono, etc print and have solved my red to yellow watercolour
contamination problem to some extent.
They are on the subject of "Fire".

This is what I did,

I had 4 watercolours to print. Red, grey, yellow and black. The red
was contaminating the yellow more than the other colours because of the
strength of it. Fabriano 220 gsm paper.

I printed the red and the grey on Monday and left them overnight and
printed the yellow and the black the following day. That reduced most
of the contamination more so than the proofs that I had printed all
four colours on the same day. Then.....

Clean tools, primed block with yellow plus a little red tinge like a
pale orange.
Printed proof with yellow on to butcher's paper (no other colour
previously on each of the yellow coloured proof prints).
Printed 10 in the edition on the Fabriano.
Printed a proof copy at 10, 20 and 30 and 40 just on clean butcher's
paper.
Each time after the print I washed the blending brush ...not
thoroughly, just in fresh water and then printed another proof after
11, 21, 31 to see the colour tone.
There was some increased reddish (orange) up to the 10th one but
reverted almost back to the original colour after washing the brushes,
not the block...the butcher's paper soaked up a lot of the
contamination from there.

There is minimal colour variation that is obvious...... I know and now
you know but it was worth the effort and the experimentation.

Now all are drying ...... or will be close to dry before I print with
the oil based ink over the top!!

So now you will have to wait for the prints to arrive at your house!!

Jan

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Message 2
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25069] Re: Colour contamination
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Jan,
congratulations on figuring this out and sharing your information. I had a real problem with black offsetting once and I know how crazy it can make you! Letting the paper rest overnight was a real good solution.

Welcome to Tom and any other new people, you will love this group!
Best to all,
Barbara

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Message 3
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 22:26:49 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25070] Haiku
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I have a question about this surinomo exchange. I don't see haiku
mentioned anyplace on the information page, but I distinctly recall a
discussion of it at the time. Am I living in a parallel universe? Is
haiku a part of this, or not? If it is, does the poetry have to be part
of the image or can it be on a separate page. And, if it can be on a
separate page, can it be from an inkjet printer - like on a vellum
sheet? What is the name of this game, anyway? Help - someone get me
on the straightened path, I'm getting dizzy :-)

Sharri

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Message 4
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:49:26 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25071] Re: Haiku
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i think the exchange has to deal with one of the four elements, haiku is
not mentioned in requirements

john center

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Message 5
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 06:52:04 -0500
Subject: [Baren 25072] Re: Haiku
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Sharri wrote:
>I have a question about this surinomo exchange. I don't see haiku
>mentioned anyplace on the information page, but I distinctly recall a
>discussion of it at the time. Am I living in a parallel universe? Is
>haiku a part of this, or not? If it is, does the poetry have to be part of
>the image or can it be on a separate page. And, if it can be on a
>separate page, can it be from an inkjet printer - like on a vellum
>sheet? What is the name of this game, anyway? Help - someone get me on
>the straightened path, I'm getting dizzy :-)
>
>Sharri

Haiku (and LOTS of other stuff) were all discussed for #21. But "haiku"
was not included in the exchange description. "Surimono", however, often
(but not always) include one or more poems (including haiku) printed in the
image area. So catch your balance! It's up to you!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 6
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 04:57:41 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25073] Re: Haiku
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I pulled this out of the Details section on the Baren sign up area.
I think it's a great oportunity to add Haiku but leaves it up to the
individual.
I plan to add one. (or at least my attempt at one :o)

Connie

Theme: Surimono: the four elements (earth, air, fire, water). Surimono
(literally 'printed thing'), are distinguished from other Japanese prints in
several ways: surimono were privately commissioned and distributed rather
than being issued by a commercial publisher; they were printed on thicker
paper which facilitated special printing effects; and they were consistently
adorned with poems that played games with the links between verbal and
visual imagery.

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Message 7
From: Lana Lambert
Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 05:49:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25074] new baby and a call to arms
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Yay! My adventure begins! I graduated from the
Corcoran College of Art and Design last saturday and
this saturday I'm driving to Niagra Falls to pick up
my new baby! I'm getting a C&P Pilot Press. I'm so
excited!
But some discouraging discussion... George Washington
University is closing down one of the most beautiful
printmaking studios around. Keeping up with my post
readings, I've noticed that there was much discussion
about printmaking getting the ax in universities. How
are people going to learn how prints were made before
Xante printers? Maybe they just don't care. Are we
to expect a resurgence of printmaking or is it
becoming a forgotten art form? I'm casting a call to
arms for all the twenty somethings (if any, don't tell
me I'm the only one) on the Baren forum to tell me
what you think about this.




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