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Message 1
From: "Gilda Zimmerling"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:4:18 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24624] exchange 21
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I also like the idea of using the four elements as a theme for a Haiku in exchange #21

--- Gilda Zimmerling
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Message 2
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:19:12 EST
Subject: [Baren 24625] Re: Theme for Exchange #21...
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how about "money as art" as a theme for 21   i can wish can't i?

john center

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Message 3
From: crwilson # icehouse.net
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:48:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24626] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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I like the haiku theme also.

Cyndy W.

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Message 4
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:50:53 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24627] Re: next exchange
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My vote goes for Haiku. If you want to do a nude and include fire,
water, earth and air that works for me! And the sushikitchi size
sounds good, too. (Japanese is not my native tongue - and it all seems
to sound similar after a few words -) I hope I can pay attention on
Apr. 1 and get in this exchange from the beginning. It is not fun
being on the wait-list, and it can take over your life - looking
towards the end to see if your name has gone up on the list. It is
unnerving. And then the call comes and you have done nothing and now
have a couple of weeks to produce. Take this as a warning if you and I
are on the wait-list again: prepare your blocks!!

Happy St. Pat's Day to all. Slainte!

The voice of experience,
Sharri

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Message 5
From: crwilson # icehouse.net
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:50:09 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24628] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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The Nude I like. Maybe nude haiku?

Cyndy W.

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Message 6
From: "Diane Cutter"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:57:07 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24629] Re: graduating to moku hanga
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Thanks, Julio, for the encouragement. For a long time I was having trouble reconciling my watercolors, oils and printmaking, but lately everything is starting to hang together. I think maturity has something to do with it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I wish to participate in the next exchange I need to be at my computer on the baren website on April 1st in order to be on the list, right?

And speaking of weather, it's hot at the moment, but after spending almost all my adult life in temperate climes, I would welcome a little ice and snow.
Diane...

www.dianecutter.com
www.artplaces.com/cutter/
www.eeag.org/dcutter/dcutter.html


>Hi Diane, I visited your website and saw your fantastic watercolors.
>
> http://www.artplaces.com/cutter/
>
>I think these would translate very nicely to woodblock prints...specially to the traditional
>japanese style or moku hanga as we like to call it here in the forum. Many a japanese print
>originated as copies of paintings. In moku hanga the use of transparent colors and soft pastel-like
>images on fine japanese handmade papers is very much akin to the watercolor style.
>
>Enjoyed your images very much and reading about your art background.....
>
>Julio Rodriguez (wishing I was in Puerto Rico and not in snow covered Skokie, Illinois)

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Message 7
From: James G Mundie
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:59:12 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24630] trying again - Re: Sir Lionel Arthur Lindsay
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I received the following query today about works by Australian printmaker
Lionel Arthur Lindsay:

"I am interested in collecting wood engravings by Lionel Lindsay. Is it
possible to buy some
works from your members?"

It seems a bit unlikely, but if anyone happens to have any Lindsay
engravings they would like to part with, please contact me and I will
forward your messages directly to the inquiring party.

For those of you unfamiliar with Lindsay's work, there is a link to the
catalogue for the recent exhibition "An Antipodean Abroad" here:
http://www.mup.unimelb.edu.au/catalogue/0-522-85077-4.html, and an
example of Lindsay's portrait of Henry Lawson here:
http://www.library.usyd.edu.au/libraries/rare/lawson/lindsayetchfull.html

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:09:11 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24631] Re: graduating to moku hanga
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Diane wrote:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I wish to participate in the next exchange
>I need to be at my computer on the baren website on April 1st in order to
>be on the list, right?

No guarantees, of course, but generally those who aren't participants in
the current exchange (#20 right now) are able to get into the next exchange
(#21 sign-up begins April 1) if they sign up any time during the first week
-- that's because although those already 'in' #20 can sign up on April 1,
they aren't added to the end of the sign-up list until a week after sign-up
begins... so you have a very good chance if you sign up during the first
couple of days... But if you're really dying to get in, then you should
probably be ready to go when the sign-up opens!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: "nancy osadchuk"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:53:32 -0700
Subject: [Baren 24632] Puzzle prints
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Hi Maria...hooray! Our Customs didn't choose to delay my print parcel this time! The prints are just amazing,BR> and I thank you (and Barbara) for all the time and effort you put into this. They truly are a treasure.
Nancy O.

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Message 10
From: "Elizabeth B. Atwood"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:38:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24633] Next exchange
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Must put in my vote for Haiku inspired work. ElizA

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Message 11
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:21:33 +0800
Subject: [Baren 24634] Re: EXCHANGE #21
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> Haiku is not a print theme but more of a poetry style...combine it
> with a
> print image (image + text).....Why not use the suggested Four
> Elements as
> a theme and write a Haiku to go with it.....write a poem about the Four
> Elements or about one element to illustrate your image....

This would also be my choice, too..... BUT we will have to be specific
as to how the poetry section is to be incorporated with the print...
or... leave it up to the individual.

1. Carved in wood
2. Calligraphed, hand written or typed on the same sheet as the print
3. Hand written or typed on a separate sheet of paper but attached to
the print (archival glue)
4. Poem on a separate sheet of paper

There could be some very interesting and innovative prints come out of
this exchange if there was no specific direction with the poetry
inclusion.

Just up my alley!!!!

Jan
Western Australia

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Message 12
From: eli griggs
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:36:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24635] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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Hi there:

How about 'the printmaker'?

Eli

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Message 13
From: Margaret Szvetecz
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:17:03 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Baren 24636] Theme for Exchange 21
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I also vote for the four elements as a theme for the exchange! This theme has lots of potential for imagery and also for abstraction.

Margaret Szvetecz
margarszv@earthlink.net

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Message 14
From: "phare-camp # imp-s.com"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:19:52 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24637] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V26 #2588 (Mar 17, 2004)
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I'm with Julio on this one, Theme: the four elements with haiku about the
element(s) you illustrate. If it just happens to incorporate the fleeting
world and you like to print in the nude...;^}

Patti P-C

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Message 15
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:56:55 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24638] Re: EXCHANGE #21
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I love the idea of a print interpreting a Haiku about an element or
elements.
I agree about being specific about how the text will work.
I would think carving letters backwards could be a bit daunting if there are
very many.
I have never tried to type or print these type of papers through my inkjet,
do paper jams happen?
How about this...Either a person could incorporate the text in the printing
directly for (option 1) OR a person could handwrite the text on the print
(option2) with some type of appropriate ink, I'm thinking india ink or maybe
colored pencil, something archival anyway.
I was thinking this might be a good idea because the overall results of the
exchange would have the continuity of the text being part of the image.
I think using text as imagery can be very beautiful and interesting.

I am sooooo excited about this. :o} I will be at my computer at midnight on
April1st.
Is that Pacific time or Eastern time or Tokyo time?
I think I'll not get much sleep tonight pondering...

Connie P

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Message 16
From: "HARRY FRENCH"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:30:36 -0000
Subject: [Baren 24639] Baren themes for exchange
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Mike,
I have only been a member for a week or two so it's a bit impertinent for me to suggest anything at all.
My Japanese technique and nomenclature are : very limited to non existent.
**Theme. The illustration of a short poem is good and I think there are members who can produce these poems to illustrate, or the group could use one of the classical Chinese/Japanese "Eight Views" theme. Would we divert into lavish editions with embossing and precious metals? That would suit me down to the ground....that's, of course, if I have looked up the right words : Haiku and Surimono and interpreted them correctly!
**The Elements theme is more familiar to us in Europe. We have been using this theme since the middle ages! This is a real opportunity for expressive prints.
However, I'll vote with Julio's idea of combining the two. It will bring out the printed word as well as the visual side of our talents, but in which language?
Looking at the reserve list for the previous exchange I might not get in the top 20 or so on April Fools' Day (1.04.04). I can wait for the next exchange or the next....
Harry
Lincoln(UK)

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Message 17
From: Jan Telfer
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:16:30 +0800
Subject: [Baren 24640] New Exchange #21 Size
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I am a bit concerned with the size of the Shikishiban which is
about 9" high x 8" wide (23cm x 20.5cm).

If we are also to include an English poem cut into the woodblock (one
of the options so far available) then this size paper is far too small
to get a full advantage of all our options and some wonderful poetry.

There are very few of us who could cut as finely as David and the
Japanese character lends itself to more words and meanings in minimal
space than our chunky English/American language!

Could the paper size please be enlarged to maybe o-ban 10 1/2 x 15 1/2"
(25.4 x 38 cms)? Then any of the previous lettering options I sent may
be able to be considered.

Thank you,
Jan

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